Jake Peavy: Available.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Samardzija has a FULL no-trade clause, and he in no way will be part of this deal. The Fontenot speculation is premature. The Cubs have not offered him. I don't know if the Padres have asked for him, but the Cubs don't want to trade him (but they would if the Pads insisted).

 

Thanks for stopping by, Bruce. What percentage would you give to this getting done? 50/50...better than 50/50?

[YearofDaCubs]

Samardzija has a FULL no-trade clause, and he in no way will be part of this deal. The Fontenot speculation is premature. The Cubs have not offered him. I don't know if the Padres have asked for him, but the Cubs don't want to trade him (but they would if the Pads insisted).

Good to know. Thanks for the info. Do you think the chances are good that this deal goes through?

[Guest]

BRUCE!!!

[Bruce Miles]

Samardzija has a FULL no-trade clause, and he in no way will be part of this deal. The Fontenot speculation is premature. The Cubs have not offered him. I don't know if the Padres have asked for him, but the Cubs don't want to trade him (but they would if the Pads insisted).

 

Thanks for stopping by, Bruce. What percentage would you give to this getting done? 50/50...better than 50/50?

 

I think the chances are better than 50/50. Unlike the Orioles, the Padres must move Peavy. They'd also like to get it done before the free-agent market opens. It's pretty much in the Padres' court now. It all depends on whose offer Towers likes.

[weis21]

He's in Lou's doghouse because he hurt himself while drunk, and then compounded it by walking people when he came back. Him and Kosuke are chained to the house.

Well he did get shelled when he came back, but it wasn't because of walks. I'm not saying that it should make any difference, just that walks seem to be the only thing that really pisses Lou the hell off regarding relievers.

 

I guess he could "be in the doghouse" for hurting himself while drunk. Although, I suspect that Lou has probably done some stupid things drunk before.

 

Maybe I missed some comments or statements from Lou, but this notion that he may not ever pitch again for us is news to me.

[BigbadB]

That still doesn't justify egg on the face. Couldn't we just all be happy for ourselves if that trade happened?

 

It's childish to look for some avenue to say "I told you so, I told you so" instead of just joining in on the celebration that the Cubs are now a better team with Peavy.

 

 

Huh? What have YOU heard? :shock:

 

The first half of the post you quoted quantifies that it was a hypothetical.

[rawaction]

Samardzija has a FULL no-trade clause, and he in no way will be part of this deal. The Fontenot speculation is premature. The Cubs have not offered him. I don't know if the Padres have asked for him, but the Cubs don't want to trade him (but they would if the Pads insisted).

 

So, you are saying there is a deal?

[jersey cubs fan]

Samardzija has a FULL no-trade clause, and he in no way will be part of this deal. The Fontenot speculation is premature. The Cubs have not offered him. I don't know if the Padres have asked for him, but the Cubs don't want to trade him (but they would if the Pads insisted).

 

Scrambled, over easy, sunny side up or Ostrich?

[David]

That still doesn't justify egg on the face. Couldn't we just all be happy for ourselves if that trade happened?

 

It's childish to look for some avenue to say "I told you so, I told you so" instead of just joining in on the celebration that the Cubs are now a better team with Peavy.

 

 

Huh? What have YOU heard? :shock:

I think he's just jumping the gun a bit.

 

I know. I'm just effen with him..

[David]

That still doesn't justify egg on the face. Couldn't we just all be happy for ourselves if that trade happened?

 

It's childish to look for some avenue to say "I told you so, I told you so" instead of just joining in on the celebration that the Cubs are now a better team with Peavy.

 

 

Huh? What have YOU heard? :shock:

 

The first half of the post you quoted quantifies that it was a hypothetical.

 

You're right, it does. :blush:

[Warren Brusstar]

Samardzija has a FULL no-trade clause, and he in no way will be part of this deal. The Fontenot speculation is premature. The Cubs have not offered him. I don't know if the Padres have asked for him, but the Cubs don't want to trade him (but they would if the Pads insisted).

 

Scrambled, over easy, sunny side up or Ostrich?

 

You don't read very well.

[Cubswin11]

Samardzija has a FULL no-trade clause, and he in no way will be part of this deal. The Fontenot speculation is premature. The Cubs have not offered him. I don't know if the Padres have asked for him, but the Cubs don't want to trade him (but they would if the Pads insisted).

 

So, you are saying there is a deal?

There was a article yesterday in the USA toady saying the Cubs submitted an offer Wednesday night

 

"Chicago made a trade proposal Wednesday night, Cubs GM Jim Hendry said, but he declined to divulge specifics. Towers, who expects Peavy to be traded before the Dec. 8 winter meetings, said one of the three teams wants a decision by Nov. 14, the first day free agents can solicit offers from all clubs."

 

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2008-11-06-peavy_N.htm

Edited November 7, 2008 by Cubswin11

[weis21]

Thanks for the info Bruce!

 

Well, so much for getting any work done now....

[BigbadB]

That still doesn't justify egg on the face. Couldn't we just all be happy for ourselves if that trade happened?

 

It's childish to look for some avenue to say "I told you so, I told you so" instead of just joining in on the celebration that the Cubs are now a better team with Peavy.

 

 

Huh? What have YOU heard? :shock:

 

The first half of the post you quoted quantifies that it was a hypothetical.

 

You won't be getting inside information from me, because I don't have access to inside info.

[Bruce Miles]

Samardzija has a FULL no-trade clause, and he in no way will be part of this deal. The Fontenot speculation is premature. The Cubs have not offered him. I don't know if the Padres have asked for him, but the Cubs don't want to trade him (but they would if the Pads insisted).

 

So, you are saying there is a deal?

 

No.

[rawaction]

Samardzija has a FULL no-trade clause, and he in no way will be part of this deal. The Fontenot speculation is premature. The Cubs have not offered him. I don't know if the Padres have asked for him, but the Cubs don't want to trade him (but they would if the Pads insisted).

 

So, you are saying there is a deal?

 

No.

 

I was just messin' with you. Trying to get all the info I can, ya know?

[Bruce Miles]

Samardzija has a FULL no-trade clause, and he in no way will be part of this deal. The Fontenot speculation is premature. The Cubs have not offered him. I don't know if the Padres have asked for him, but the Cubs don't want to trade him (but they would if the Pads insisted).

 

So, you are saying there is a deal?

 

No.

 

I was just messin' with you. Trying to get all the info I can, ya know?

 

Oh, I know. Quite OK. :D

[Little Slide Rooter]

Samardzija has a FULL no-trade clause, and he in no way will be part of this deal. The Fontenot speculation is premature. The Cubs have not offered him. I don't know if the Padres have asked for him, but the Cubs don't want to trade him (but they would if the Pads insisted).

 

So, you are saying there is a deal?

 

No.

 

I was just messin' with you. Trying to get all the info I can, ya know?

 

Oh, I know. Quite OK. :D

 

So what are the chances that a deal could be done by Monday as was stated at one point?

[17 Seconds]

The Braves are in a rebuilding phase right now. They were 20 games back last year. If he wants to come to a place where a sub 3 ERA won't net you a losing record in 30 starts, then come to Chicago Jake!

 

They were 20 games back because they had an insanely large amount of significant injuries. If they get Peavy and make a couple other moves they will compete for the division in 2009.

 

And the significant injuries were to oft-injured soon-to-be 37 year old Chipper Jones, nearly dead John Smoltz, always injured Mike Hampton, already dead Tom Glavine and it was bound to happen sooner or later Tim Hudson. You can assume another 40 innings out of Hudson next year, but none of those other major injuries were at all flukish or unexpected, and they can't expect any of them to produce more in 2009 than they did in 2008. Atlanta needs a lot of help.

 

There were a lot more injuries than those guys you mentioned.

 

Those were the ones that made a difference. Name guys who were flukishly injured that can be expected to return healthy next year and perform better than they did this year. That's the only way you can pretend they are a couple moves away from contending again.

 

I think you're really over exaggerating how bad they were last season and really underestimating how bad injuries destroyed their pen. Peavy/Hudson/Jurrjens/Campillo/whoever can win if guys like Mike Gonzalez and Rafael Soriano stay healthy. They were only -25 in run differential last season and they pretty much mailed it in and shut guys down in the second half. Peavy, maybe another bat, and good health has that team competing in 2009.

[17 Seconds]

Samardzija has a FULL no-trade clause, and he in no way will be part of this deal. The Fontenot speculation is premature. The Cubs have not offered him. I don't know if the Padres have asked for him, but the Cubs don't want to trade him (but they would if the Pads insisted).

 

Thanks for stopping by, Bruce. What percentage would you give to this getting done? 50/50...better than 50/50?

 

I think the chances are better than 50/50. Unlike the Orioles, the Padres must move Peavy. They'd also like to get it done before the free-agent market opens. It's pretty much in the Padres' court now. It all depends on whose offer Towers likes.

 

Wait... better than 50/50 that he gets traded to the Cubs, or better than 50/50 that he gets traded period?

[Post Count Padder]

Thanks for the info Bruce. What are the odds Peavy goes to the Cubs and do you think they'd have enough left over to acquire a bat?

[David]

If the Pads MUST move Peavy, I don't understand why he wouldn't just make sure he came to the Cubs over the Braves (especially if the offers are close enough that the Pads need to talk things out).

 

Why on earth would someone rather be on the Braves than the Cubs right now (assuming that winning is any priority)?

[BigbadB]

The Braves are in a rebuilding phase right now. They were 20 games back last year. If he wants to come to a place where a sub 3 ERA won't net you a losing record in 30 starts, then come to Chicago Jake!

 

They were 20 games back because they had an insanely large amount of significant injuries. If they get Peavy and make a couple other moves they will compete for the division in 2009.

 

And the significant injuries were to oft-injured soon-to-be 37 year old Chipper Jones, nearly dead John Smoltz, always injured Mike Hampton, already dead Tom Glavine and it was bound to happen sooner or later Tim Hudson. You can assume another 40 innings out of Hudson next year, but none of those other major injuries were at all flukish or unexpected, and they can't expect any of them to produce more in 2009 than they did in 2008. Atlanta needs a lot of help.

 

There were a lot more injuries than those guys you mentioned.

 

Those were the ones that made a difference. Name guys who were flukishly injured that can be expected to return healthy next year and perform better than they did this year. That's the only way you can pretend they are a couple moves away from contending again.

 

I think you're really over exaggerating how bad they were last season and really underestimating how bad injuries destroyed their pen. Peavy/Hudson/Jurrjens/Campillo/whoever can win if guys like Mike Gonzalez and Rafael Soriano stay healthy. They were only -25 in run differential last season and they pretty much mailed it in and shut guys down in the second half. Peavy, maybe another bat, and good health has that team competing in 2009.

 

I don't think he's overexaggerating at all. You're only listing the pitching staff. They don't have Teixiera anymore. Who is going to step up and match the offense he provided?

[17 Seconds]

Why on earth would someone rather be on the Braves than the Cubs right now (assuming that winning is any priority)?

 

Maybe he watched the last 2 Octobers

[David]

Why on earth would someone rather be on the Braves than the Cubs right now (assuming that winning is any priority)?

 

Maybe he watched the last 2 Octobers

 

You mean the ones that Chipper Jones was watching on TV?