Jake Peavy: Available.

[OleMissCub]

I can't remember if he said Sean Marshall or Rich Hill as the other piece.

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He said Rich Hill

 

 

....actually I don't know, just wishful thinking.

[erik316wttn]

Surprised nobody mentioned this, but Levine was on with Waddle and Silvy maybe a half hr ago, said that he still expects a deal to be done by Monday sending Peavy to either the Cubs or Braves. Said it looks like a Cubs package would involve Felix Pie, Ronny Cedeno, Mitch Atkins, and I can't remember if he said Sean Marshall or Rich Hill as the other piece.

 

Said Mitch Atkins is a guy they seem to like a lot.

 

Hill, please. I would like to hang on to Marshall if possible.

 

If we get Peavy, and then Hendry re-signs Dempster like he says he wants to, where does that leave Marquis? And if we ditch Marquis's contract, doesn't that leave us more than enough money to re-sign Kerry Wood?

[BigbadB]

Surprised nobody mentioned this, but Levine was on with Waddle and Silvy maybe a half hr ago, said that he still expects a deal to be done by Monday sending Peavy to either the Cubs or Braves. Said it looks like a Cubs package would involve Felix Pie, Ronny Cedeno, Mitch Atkins, and I can't remember if he said Sean Marshall or Rich Hill as the other piece.

 

Said Mitch Atkins is a guy they seem to like a lot.

 

Color me giddy. And color Padres fans pissed when they see the kind of production they got from trading their golden boy.

[laurens]

Surprised nobody mentioned this, but Levine was on with Waddle and Silvy maybe a half hr ago, said that he still expects a deal to be done by Monday sending Peavy to either the Cubs or Braves. Said it looks like a Cubs package would involve Felix Pie, Ronny Cedeno, Mitch Atkins, and I can't remember if he said Sean Marshall or Rich Hill as the other piece.

 

Said Mitch Atkins is a guy they seem to like a lot.

 

Hill, please. I would like to hang on to Marshall if possible.

 

If we get Peavy, and then Hendry re-signs Dempster like he says he wants to, where does that leave Marquis? And if we ditch Marquis's contract, doesn't that leave us more than enough money to re-sign Kerry Wood?

 

Now THAT would be too good to be true.

[BigbadB]

If we get Peavy, and then Hendry re-signs Dempster like he says he wants to, where does that leave Marquis? And if we ditch Marquis's contract, doesn't that leave us more than enough money to re-sign Kerry Wood?

 

I would think any leverage the Cubs might have had with Marquis would go out the window if they resigned Dempster and traded for Peavy. I think a lot of teams would be willing to trade for Marquis, but the Cubs will probably have to pick up a significant portion of his contract.

 

Z, Peavy, Harden, Dempster, Lilly = no room for Marquis.

 

Best guess is the Cubs get a marginal prospect or serviceable utility guy while picking up at least half of Marquis contract.

[17 Seconds]

The Braves are in a rebuilding phase right now. They were 20 games back last year. If he wants to come to a place where a sub 3 ERA won't net you a losing record in 30 starts, then come to Chicago Jake!

 

They were 20 games back because they had an insanely large amount of significant injuries. If they get Peavy and make a couple other moves they will compete for the division in 2009.

[Guest]

Surprised nobody mentioned this, but Levine was on with Waddle and Silvy maybe a half hr ago, said that he still expects a deal to be done by Monday sending Peavy to either the Cubs or Braves. Said it looks like a Cubs package would involve Felix Pie, Ronny Cedeno, Mitch Atkins, and I can't remember if he said Sean Marshall or Rich Hill as the other piece.

 

Said Mitch Atkins is a guy they seem to like a lot.

 

Even if it's Pie/Cedeno/Atkins/Marshall and not Hill, that's ridiculous.

 

Why do the Padres like Atkins THAT much?

[BigbadB]

Surprised nobody mentioned this, but Levine was on with Waddle and Silvy maybe a half hr ago, said that he still expects a deal to be done by Monday sending Peavy to either the Cubs or Braves. Said it looks like a Cubs package would involve Felix Pie, Ronny Cedeno, Mitch Atkins, and I can't remember if he said Sean Marshall or Rich Hill as the other piece.

 

Said Mitch Atkins is a guy they seem to like a lot.

 

Even if it's Pie/Cedeno/Atkins/Marshall and not Hill, that's ridiculous.

 

Why do the Padres like Atkins THAT much?

 

Yeah, I don't get it. Can we offer up Colvin, Ceda and Hill for Holliday next, please?

[SouthSideRyan]

I like Atkins more than most, but I liked him as a swingman/middle reliever. That's crazy.

 

It's funny, if it's Hill, I'd be a fanboy of every guy going to San Diego, and I'd love the crap out of the trade.

[17 Seconds]

Keep in mind we're talking about Bruce Levine and the media in general, guys.

[jersey cubs fan]

The Braves are in a rebuilding phase right now. They were 20 games back last year. If he wants to come to a place where a sub 3 ERA won't net you a losing record in 30 starts, then come to Chicago Jake!

 

They were 20 games back because they had an insanely large amount of significant injuries. If they get Peavy and make a couple other moves they will compete for the division in 2009.

 

And the significant injuries were to oft-injured soon-to-be 37 year old Chipper Jones, nearly dead John Smoltz, always injured Mike Hampton, already dead Tom Glavine and it was bound to happen sooner or later Tim Hudson. You can assume another 40 innings out of Hudson next year, but none of those other major injuries were at all flukish or unexpected, and they can't expect any of them to produce more in 2009 than they did in 2008. Atlanta needs a lot of help.

[David]

Levine is really the first one that was pushing the story around here, well before the national outlets picked it up (and really before the local papers did, too)....

[weis21]

If worse came to worse I'd probably do it, but I'd really hate to give up both Marshall and Samardzija. Not because their combined value is so great, but losing both our cheap 6th starter options at once would be tough to take.

True, but Gaudin could fill that role nicely if need be. If two injuries were to strike however, we may be in trouble.

[Cubswin11]

I'd have to say I'm pretty ok exchanging Marquis for Peavy in a rotation that had the 2nd best ERA in baseball last year (and highest K rate, and lowest BA against).

 

Zambrano, Peavy, Harden, re-signed Dempster, and Lilly? Holy mother of god puss puss.

 

That is scary. A 16 game winner as your 5th starter.

 

Actually my rotation would be 1. Peavy 2. Zambrano 3. Dempster 4. Lilly 5. Harden. Until Harden proves he can stay healthy and can go every turn, you should send him down to the 5th spot and rest him from time to time. The Cubs could possibly win over 100 games with that. The other teams in the Central have to be Howrying their pants if this deal goes down.

 

The problem is, who is going to show up to hit the FREAKING ball in the post season. :cry:

 

An as-of-now-undetermined lefty bat of consequence?

 

Let just say if the Cubs get Peavy. :beg: Take the money they were going to spend on Dempster and sign Raul Ibanez to play right. Platoon Fukie and Reed in CF. Sign Woody back as the closer. Pick up another decent arm for the bullpen. Pick up another utility infielder. Marquis, Hill, or Veal is your 5th starter. They are set, don't ya think?

 

Thats my thinking as well, if we trade for Peavy the picks we get for Dempster become more valuable as we will take quite a blow to our system through the trade but recouping 2 picks for him weakens the hit. Take that 40ish mil and use it towards Wood, Ibanez, Cintron and a bullpen buy like Joe Beimel, Tyler Walker, Juan Cruz, or Kevin Gregg(if he is non-tendered).

[jersey cubs fan]

If worse came to worse I'd probably do it, but I'd really hate to give up both Marshall and Samardzija. Not because their combined value is so great, but losing both our cheap 6th starter options at once would be tough to take.

True, but Gaudin could fill that role nicely if need be. If two injuries were to strike however, we may be in trouble.

 

What are the chances Gaudin spends 2009 anywhere but Lou Piniella's doghouse if he is even on the Cubs?

[BigbadB]

The Braves are in a rebuilding phase right now. They were 20 games back last year. If he wants to come to a place where a sub 3 ERA won't net you a losing record in 30 starts, then come to Chicago Jake!

 

They were 20 games back because they had an insanely large amount of significant injuries. If they get Peavy and make a couple other moves they will compete for the division in 2009.

 

And the significant injuries were to oft-injured soon-to-be 37 year old Chipper Jones, nearly dead John Smoltz, always injured Mike Hampton, already dead Tom Glavine and it was bound to happen sooner or later Tim Hudson. You can assume another 40 innings out of Hudson next year, but none of those other major injuries were at all flukish or unexpected, and they can't expect any of them to produce more in 2009 than they did in 2008. Atlanta needs a lot of help.

 

Thanks. You saved me a bunch of extra time explaining this. This same team no longer has Teixiera, the one guy capable of making them a possible .500 team. The downgrade to Kotchman is significant. This team just isn't in a position to compete with the Mets or Phillies next year.

[WrigleyField 22]

Yea, I really don't get this resign Dempster idea if we get Peavy, unless he is willing to give the Cubs a significant hometown deal (in years and value).

[jersey cubs fan]

Yea, I really don't get this resign Dempster idea if we get Peavy, unless he is willing to give the Cubs a significant hometown deal (in years and value).

 

I caught about 5 minutes of CSN Sportsnite last night, and somebody mentioned it was an either/or proposition. I can't imagine them having both.

[twothousandfive]

If these talks are serious, doesn't Chicago also have to move more quickly on the RF solution? If Florida demands Pie as part of a package for Hermida, for instance, doesn't Hendry have to find out now, and then see if he can keep Pie out of a SD deal, maybe replaced with Vitters?

 

If this were to go down as written already, the Cubs would still have enough left to get Hermida, and maybe still have a sixth (non-Marquis) starter or two available.

 

Though, I can't believe SD is willing to do this. If I'm them, I'm asking for nothing but pitching -- Marmol, Veal, Ceda, Marshall.

[BigbadB]

Yea, I really don't get this resign Dempster idea if we get Peavy, unless he is willing to give the Cubs a significant hometown deal (in years and value).

 

I wouldn't mind it so much if they traded for Peavy and resigned Dempster, while also retaining Wood. There is still a hole in RF, but you could realistically find a cheap LH bat that could platoon with DeRosa and then go with Fontenot and a RH platoon there as well. It's probably not ideal to have 3 positions getting platooned regularly, but you could also hope that someone could step up and play everyday.

 

As of today, the Cubs have:

 

CF: Fukudome/Johnson

2b: DeRosa/Fontenot

RF: DeRosa/Hoffpauir

[17 Seconds]

The Braves are in a rebuilding phase right now. They were 20 games back last year. If he wants to come to a place where a sub 3 ERA won't net you a losing record in 30 starts, then come to Chicago Jake!

 

They were 20 games back because they had an insanely large amount of significant injuries. If they get Peavy and make a couple other moves they will compete for the division in 2009.

 

And the significant injuries were to oft-injured soon-to-be 37 year old Chipper Jones, nearly dead John Smoltz, always injured Mike Hampton, already dead Tom Glavine and it was bound to happen sooner or later Tim Hudson. You can assume another 40 innings out of Hudson next year, but none of those other major injuries were at all flukish or unexpected, and they can't expect any of them to produce more in 2009 than they did in 2008. Atlanta needs a lot of help.

 

There were a lot more injuries than those guys you mentioned.

[gflore34]

Yea, I really don't get this resign Dempster idea if we get Peavy, unless he is willing to give the Cubs a significant hometown deal (in years and value).

 

I gotta think if this was Dempster' intent he wouldn't have opted to test the open market.

[Guest]

If these talks are serious, doesn't Chicago also have to move more quickly on the RF solution? If Florida demands Pie as part of a package for Hermida, for instance, doesn't Hendry have to find out now, and then see if he can keep Pie out of a SD deal, maybe replaced with Vitters?

 

If this were to go down as written already, the Cubs would still have enough left to get Hermida, and maybe still have a sixth (non-Marquis) starter or two available.

 

Though, I can't believe SD is willing to do this. If I'm them, I'm asking for nothing but pitching -- Marmol, Veal, Ceda, Marshall.

 

RF is a more fluid situation with guys in free agency who may fit (Bradley, Ibanez, etc.). And there are other trade options than just Hermida.

[SouthSideRyan]

 

nearly dead John Smoltz,

 

I like this.

[Guest]

 

nearly dead John Smoltz,

 

I like this.

"Already dead Tom Glavine" was better.