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The Chicago Cubs have leapt to the forefront of the Jake Peavy trade discussion, though the San Diego Padres are continuing to talk with the Atlanta Braves in hopes of extracting a better package, sources told Yahoo! Sports on Thursday night.
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I got a good feeling about this one.

 

And once again I'm sucked into the Chicago Cubs. Damn it.

 

Must....................resist...........................temp.........tation..........

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I got a good feeling about this one.

 

And once again I'm sucked into the Chicago Cubs. Damn it.

No crap. I told myself I wouldnt care until next october. ahh well

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I'm reading a Braves board and one of their big saber guys projects Peavy to have a 4.03 ERA and a 1.3 WHIP next season (if he were a Brave).

Ran a quick search based on similar seasons from 2006-2008 for pitchers who were 26 to 30 and had similar seasons based on WHIP, IP/GS, ERA and PA/XBH and the top five closest matches were, followed by their closeness of matching:

 

(1) Wandy Rodriguez, 2007 (0.07%)

(2) Brad Penny, 2006 (0.47%)

(3) Nick Blackburn, 2008 (1.22%)

(4) Carlos Silva, 2007 (1.81%)

(5) Gil Meche, 2008 (2.44%)

http://www.braves-nation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13039&page=71

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I'm reading a Braves board and one of their big saber guys projects Peavy to have a 4.03 ERA and a 1.3 WHIP next season (if he were a Brave).
Ran a quick search based on similar seasons from 2006-2008 for pitchers who were 26 to 30 and had similar seasons based on WHIP, IP/GS, ERA and PA/XBH and the top five closest matches were, followed by their closeness of matching:

 

(1) Wandy Rodriguez, 2007 (0.07%)

(2) Brad Penny, 2006 (0.47%)

(3) Nick Blackburn, 2008 (1.22%)

(4) Carlos Silva, 2007 (1.81%)

(5) Gil Meche, 2008 (2.44%)

http://www.braves-nation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13039&page=71

 

I think Meph's head will explode if he reads that

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I'm reading a Braves board and one of their big saber guys projects Peavy to have a 4.03 ERA and a 1.3 WHIP next season (if he were a Brave).
Ran a quick search based on similar seasons from 2006-2008 for pitchers who were 26 to 30 and had similar seasons based on WHIP, IP/GS, ERA and PA/XBH and the top five closest matches were, followed by their closeness of matching:

 

(1) Wandy Rodriguez, 2007 (0.07%)

(2) Brad Penny, 2006 (0.47%)

(3) Nick Blackburn, 2008 (1.22%)

(4) Carlos Silva, 2007 (1.81%)

(5) Gil Meche, 2008 (2.44%)

http://www.braves-nation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13039&page=71

 

By the way, the following quote came from the same guy

 

He's not Santana/Zambrano/Lincecum like everyone wants to portray him as being. I 'd say he's more of a Haren/Sheets/Hamels second-tier ace-type

 

So Sheets/Haren/Hamels are "second tier" guys and Zambrano is an elite ace? He kind of lost credibility right there. Haren/Hamels/Sheets were all filthy and top pitchers last season. I'd be thrilled if Peavy matched any of those guys

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I'm reading a Braves board and one of their big saber guys projects Peavy to have a 4.03 ERA and a 1.3 WHIP next season (if he were a Brave).
Ran a quick search based on similar seasons from 2006-2008 for pitchers who were 26 to 30 and had similar seasons based on WHIP, IP/GS, ERA and PA/XBH and the top five closest matches were, followed by their closeness of matching:

 

(1) Wandy Rodriguez, 2007 (0.07%)

(2) Brad Penny, 2006 (0.47%)

(3) Nick Blackburn, 2008 (1.22%)

(4) Carlos Silva, 2007 (1.81%)

(5) Gil Meche, 2008 (2.44%)

http://www.braves-nation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13039&page=71

 

By the way, the following quote came from the same guy

 

He's not Santana/Zambrano/Lincecum like everyone wants to portray him as being. I 'd say he's more of a Haren/Sheets/Hamels second-tier ace-type

 

So Sheets/Haren/Hamels are "second tier" guys and Zambrano is an elite ace? He kind of lost credibility right there. Haren/Hamels/Sheets were all filthy and top pitchers last season. I'd be thrilled if Peavy matched any of those guys

 

Yeah, it seems like he assumes his iffy road splits will continue rather than accepting them as an anomaly.

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So apparently this could be done by Monday? I'd love to have it over with.

 

Levine says it'll be done by Monday one way or another. Grains of salt are always required with him, but the various other sources seem to concur that it should be resolved before too long.

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I'm reading a Braves board and one of their big saber guys projects Peavy to have a 4.03 ERA and a 1.3 WHIP next season (if he were a Brave).
Ran a quick search based on similar seasons from 2006-2008 for pitchers who were 26 to 30 and had similar seasons based on WHIP, IP/GS, ERA and PA/XBH and the top five closest matches were, followed by their closeness of matching:

 

(1) Wandy Rodriguez, 2007 (0.07%)

(2) Brad Penny, 2006 (0.47%)

(3) Nick Blackburn, 2008 (1.22%)

(4) Carlos Silva, 2007 (1.81%)

(5) Gil Meche, 2008 (2.44%)

http://www.braves-nation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13039&page=71

 

What utter garbage. WHIP, ERA and... plate appearances per extra-base hit? Why don't you just throw win percentage in there, too. Or uniform color. Nonsense.

 

Oh, and if I had PI I'd test this, but I'm almost entirely convinced that he just "normalized" Peavy's 2007 season to Turner Field using Baseball-Reference.com. Trash, trash, trash.

 

Did I say that clearly enough? Nonsense. All of us are dumber for having read it. Please remove it from the Internet before it kills again.

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I'm reading a Braves board and one of their big saber guys projects Peavy to have a 4.03 ERA and a 1.3 WHIP next season (if he were a Brave).
Ran a quick search based on similar seasons from 2006-2008 for pitchers who were 26 to 30 and had similar seasons based on WHIP, IP/GS, ERA and PA/XBH and the top five closest matches were, followed by their closeness of matching:

 

(1) Wandy Rodriguez, 2007 (0.07%)

(2) Brad Penny, 2006 (0.47%)

(3) Nick Blackburn, 2008 (1.22%)

(4) Carlos Silva, 2007 (1.81%)

(5) Gil Meche, 2008 (2.44%)

http://www.braves-nation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13039&page=71

 

What utter garbage. WHIP, ERA and... plate appearances per extra-base hit? Why don't you just throw win percentage in there, too. Or uniform color. Nonsense.

 

Oh, and if I had PI I'd test this, but I'm almost entirely convinced that he just "normalized" Peavy's 2007 season to Turner Field using Baseball-Reference.com. Trash, trash, trash.

 

Did I say that clearly enough? Nonsense. All of us are dumber for having read it. Please remove it from the Internet before it kills again.

I agree. That's why I posted it in the first place..it's so outlandish.

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I promised myself I was going to become a Twins fan and have not visited the boards since the playoffs. Being a Cubs fan is harder to beat then a crack addiction. -- Anyway, on the the reason I'm posting.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3687064

 

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Jake Peavy probably will be traded by the San Diego Padres before the winter meetings next month. After spending four days at the annual general managers' meetings, Padres GM Kevin Towers said it is unlikely the 2007 NL Cy Young Award winner will remain with San Diego, which signed him out of high school in 1999. "The train's kind of left the station," Towers said Thursday.

 

"We're not to the point where we've agreed on who the players are coming back. We just have an idea of who's available to us and who's not," Towers said. "Now it's just a matter of looking at three priority teams that are involved and trying to figure out what our optimum deal is. Some of them involve third teams and potentially fourth teams, so it becomes a little more complicated."

 

The article also lists the Braves, Dodgers and Cubs as the top 3 teams in the hunt for his services.

 

What to me is most telling in the article "Some of them involved third teams and potentially fourth teams, so it becomes a little more complicated" - That to me has Hendry wrote all over it and is what gives me hope. Up to this point everything I have read is speculation by reporters saying the Cubs were in the top, to hear/read it from Towers, I put a little more weight on that.

 

Sorry if this has already been posted.

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http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/1266013,CST-SPT-cub07.article

 

A source close to Cubs GM Jim Hendry said he is ''very interested'' in Peavy. Hendry spoke with Padres GM Kevin Towers on Wednesday,and the Padres' braintrust met for dinner Wednesday night to discuss the Cubs players potentially involved in the deal.

 

IMO, if the Padres braintrust like whatever offer Hendry proposed on Wednesday, then I do see this hanging on through the weekend unless the Padres feel 100% that the Braves will jump in. If the organization truly likes what the Cubs are offering (especially if Shark is included) I don't see why this have to drag on through the weekend. So who knows.....

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The Padres will hold out until the last minute of the GM meetings to see if they can pry Hanson away from the Braves. But I don't see why the Braves would suddenly lose their resolve over the weekend, given that Hanson just had another dominant performance in AFL last night.
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The Padres will hold out until the last minute of the GM meetings to see if they can pry Hanson away from the Braves. But I don't see why the Braves would suddenly lose their resolve over the weekend, given that Hanson just had another dominant performance in AFL last night.

 

GM Meetings ended Thursday....FYI

 

With Hanson's peformance in the AFL the Braves may just say "F--it" and say let's just keep the young players and build for tomorrow. It's obivously the Padres want Hanson, but the Braves don't want to part with him.

 

With that said, it wouldn't surprise me if the Braves GM surprise the world and trade Hanson to get Peavy.

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All I care about is:

 

The Chicago Cubs have leapt to the forefront of the Jake Peavy trade discussion, though the San Diego Padres are continuing to talk with the Atlanta Braves in hopes of extracting a better package, sources told Yahoo! Sports on Thursday night.

 

I have a feeling that the Cubs and Braves will keep switching back and forth a the frontrunners until the dal get done.

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Sun-Time article on Cubs's pursuit of Peavy.

 

Link.

 

Swinging a deal for Peavy could cost the Cubs some valuable young talent, including a pitcher who is major-league-ready, such as left-hander Sean Marshall or perhaps right-hander Rich Harden.

 

The Padres also need help at second base and might be targeting Mike Fontenot.

I would be happy with a Marshall for Peavy trade. I don't understand why they would want Harden, or why Hendry would trade him right now.

 

Because rebuilding teams always go for players with only 1 more year under team control who may or may not start 20 games all season. duh.

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So apparently this could be done by Monday? I'd love to have it over with.
Can't happen on Monday. We're still about 150 pages shy of being able to call this BRTII. Either that, or we need to get busy with this thread.
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I'd hate to trade Samardzija. But I'd do it, if that's what it would take and he would accept it. I'd also hate to trade Marshall in addition to Samardzija, but I guess I would if necessary. If the Cubs offer Samardzija, Marshall, Pie and Cedeno....the Braves won't beat that offer.
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I know that the Pads would prefer not sending Peavy to a divsion rival, but if the Dodgers were to offer Kershaw+ Ethier or Kemp, would the Cubs or Braves be able tobeat that?

 

The Dodgers would never trade Kershaw for Peavy and certainly not Kershaw + Eithier or kemp.

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I know that the Pads would prefer not sending Peavy to a divsion rival, but if the Dodgers were to offer Kershaw+ Ethier or Kemp, would the Cubs or Braves be able tobeat that?

 

The Dodgers would never trade Kershaw for Peavy and certainly not Kershaw + Eithier or kemp.

 

If Khalil Greene enters the mix they could. If they dont end up over paying for Furcal, the Dodgers dont have a definite choice for short stop, and that way, they could use that money toward over paying for Manny instead.

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