Jake Peavy: Available.

[waffle]

There have been a # of instances of pitching rich/offensively poor teams doing well recently. Our offense was pretty durn good last year (minus those becalmed stretches, such as the playoffs). If we can somehow end up with a dominant 1-3 and a serviceable 4... yummy

 

Having Roberts (or someone else Roberts LIKE) would be nice to help us generate runs the old fashioned way - steals, bunts, etc....

[Sammy Sofa]

Having Roberts (or someone else Roberts LIKE) would be nice to help us generate runs the old fashioned way - steals, bunts, etc....

 

I'd prefer to do it the more productive and awesome new fashioned ways.

[Moises a loo]

Don't be surprised if Harden goes along with prospects in this deal. I'm hearing that in order for this to get done they have to move Marquis salary and that Rich Harden will likely have to be part of the deal. I would also expect most of our best prospects to be included as well. If it means we get Peavy, then fine. But I would really like to keep Harden in this rotation for another year.

 

I'd love to know where you're hearing this (DeLuca speculated on Harden as a name), because Harden in this deal would make absolutely no sense.

 

If it were a three-way it might. The first thing I thought of when I heard they were trying to get Peavy and Dempster both was that Harden could go (Toronto might make sense) to free up salary and get a young pitcher for the Peavy deal.

[jyoung55]

Don't be surprised if Harden goes along with prospects in this deal. I'm hearing that in order for this to get done they have to move Marquis salary and that Rich Harden will likely have to be part of the deal. I would also expect most of our best prospects to be included as well. If it means we get Peavy, then fine. But I would really like to keep Harden in this rotation for another year.

 

1) Harden costs nearly as much as Peavy this coming year

2) Harden would leave as a free agent after next year

 

but he heard it

 

...from some genius at the office water cooler.

[Butterscup1679666578]

I'm guessing the Padres are under the false impression that Felix Pie is actually a solid prospect. Sell high Jim.

 

I'm pretty sure most people across the league think he is. People love tools.

 

They might also love him for his performance in AAA.

 

Oh I know. I'm not one writing off Pie yet, I think he's going to be a solid player. All I'm saying is even if he wasn't great in AAA, I think he'd still garner a lot of interest based on his potential and tools/skills.

[RammyFanny]

I think Castillo will be a must if i'm the Padres. Coming off of a future's game appearance, etc. I'm sure he has great value as a trading chip, playing that position. Don't know if it's been posted, but Bruce has his blog up with most of the same Shark info he told us here:

http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/901

[illiniguy]

If this trade goes down as many are reporting it without us giving up Vitters that is amazing. If I run the Cards or Brewers though I am crying to the commish to over turn it. It doesn't seem on the up and up.

[imb]

i am so not ready to have my dreams crushed this early in the offseason

[BigbadB]

I wonder if the Cubs contention that they'd like to trade for Peavy and resign Dempster is just posturing to get Peavy to agree to a trade. The latest Rotoworld blurb says Peavy would not agree to a trade if it weakened the major league team he was being traded to.

 

By staying firmly in the Dempster sweepstakes until this Peavy this is ironed out could just be to help convince Peavy to accept a deal to Chicago.

 

It's just really weird right now that no only is Peavy engaging his NTC, but is also dictating what players the Padres are allowed to ask for in return.

[RammyFanny]

If this trade goes down as many are reporting it without us giving up Vitters that is amazing. If I run the Cards or Brewers though I am crying to the commish to over turn it. It doesn't seem on the up and up.

And even if it does it involve Josh it will go from amazing to completely fair.

 

I think one thing is for sure, if Peavy didn't have that NTC we would be completely screwed.

[nilodnayr]

Levine just reported that the deal will involve Pie, Cedeno, and Marshall or Mitch Atkins

If that is seriously all that the Cubs are offering, what on earth could the Braves package be that the Padre's would even consider the Cubs offer? Escobar and a bag of balls is a better trade than that. Maybe Peavy is being stubborn with the NTC about not wanting to go to ATL if they give up too much, or maybe the Braves really don't want to give up Escobar, Hansen and other top prospects. Even if we threw in someone like Ceda or Castillo to finish it off that still is an average return. I guess everyone was saying the same thing about Johan last year, that it was going to take a teams top 2-3 prospects, and he went for a similar package. If thats all we give up you have to wonder if there is a third team involved, which has been speculated.

 

 

Yeah, but the difference was that the trade package for Johan was basically a posting fee. Once you got him you had to negotiate a market deal with him. At least with Peavy you get one year of way below market value and then, although his salary rises dramatically, for the most part its still a bit below market value.

[nilodnayr]

I wonder if the Cubs contention that they'd like to trade for Peavy and resign Dempster is just posturing to get Peavy to agree to a trade. The latest Rotoworld blurb says Peavy would not agree to a trade if it weakened the major league team he was being traded to.

 

By staying firmly in the Dempster sweepstakes until this Peavy this is ironed out could just be to help convince Peavy to accept a deal to Chicago.

 

It's just really weird right now that no only is Peavy engaging his NTC, but is also dictating what players the Padres are allowed to ask for in return.

 

On the other hand, I don't know anyone in their right mind that would argue that the Cubs with Peavy and without Dempster (and without the players it would take to get Peavy) would be anything but massive favorites in the NL Central, not to mention the NL in total.

[David]

it's sick that we keep acquiring my pitching man crushes... harden and peavy were my two favorite pitchers in baseball prior to this season.

 

i hope we go 2 for 2...

[illiniguy]

If this trade goes down as many are reporting it without us giving up Vitters that is amazing. If I run the Cards or Brewers though I am crying to the commish to over turn it. It doesn't seem on the up and up.

And even if it does it involve Josh it will go from amazing to completely fair.

 

I think one thing is for sure, if Peavy didn't have that NTC we would be completely screwed.

Probably not fair, but at least in the ballpark. Vitters is highly thought of, we get Peavy and get to keep him and we get away with robbery.

[TruffleShuffle]

Having Roberts (or someone else Roberts LIKE) would be nice to help us generate runs the old fashioned way - steals, bunts, etc....

 

I'd prefer to do it the more productive and awesome new fashioned ways.

 

if there's anything that the 2008 phillies taught us, it's that teams relying heavily on the long ball simply will not win in the playoffs.

[imb]

im hoping for world war 3 so we can produce runs the old fashioned way with women workin on assembly lines

[David]

it worked the last time we went to the world series

[TruffleShuffle]

please trade colvin if the padres don't realize he sucks.

[nilodnayr]

According to Jeff Passen, the Padres want Samardzjia -- whose NTC is described a source as "limited"

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-peavydeal110608&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

 

If true, that would be some serious egg on the face of every poster who has shouted down the idea of trading Samardzjia the last few years because of his NTC.

 

That's just plain old stupid. How is that serious egg on the face? Samardzija has a no trade clause, we know that. That makes it difficult to trade him, but not impossible. We know that. There's no egg on the face for pointing that out and still seeing a guy traded.

 

Poster A: We should trade Samardzjia, Player B, and Player C

Poster B: NTC. He can't be traded.

 

If it turns out that the NTC doesn't limit certain trades -- such as one to the Padres -- Poster B was actively wrong. Thus, egg-in-the-face.

 

Wait, wouldn't it only be egg on Poster B's face if the conversation continued into something like this...

 

Poster A: Actually, Shark has a LIMITED NTC, he can be traded to some teams.

Poster B: No he doesn't.

Poster A: Yes he does, I read his contract even though no one outside or the organization, Shark, and his agent has access to it.

Poster B: I'll kill you.

[Guest]

please trade colvin if the padres don't realize he sucks.

 

The TJS has to hurt. :|

[erik316wttn]

Levine just reported that the deal will involve Pie, Cedeno, and Marshall or Mitch Atkins

 

Wow. If the Padres take that, Jim Hendry ought to be arrested for rape.

[Outshined_One]

Levine just reported that the deal will involve Pie, Cedeno, and Marshall or Mitch Atkins

 

Wow. If the Padres take that, Jim Hendry ought to be arrested for rape.

 

Hell, I'd let them have Marshall and Atkins just out of pity.

[RammyFanny]

Levine just reported that the deal will involve Pie, Cedeno, and Marshall or Mitch Atkins

 

Wow. If the Padres take that, Jim Hendry ought to be arrested for rape.

For the second time. Serial rapist.

[SouthSideRyan]

Levine just reported that the deal will involve Pie, Cedeno, and Marshall or Mitch Atkins

 

Wow. If the Padres take that, Jim Hendry ought to be arrested for rape.

 

Hell, I'd let them have Marshall and Atkins just out of pity.

 

I'm pretty sure rchap misheard that and it was Marshall and Atkins.

[rchap24]

Levine just reported that the deal will involve Pie, Cedeno, and Marshall or Mitch Atkins

 

Wow. If the Padres take that, Jim Hendry ought to be arrested for rape.

 

Hell, I'd let them have Marshall and Atkins just out of pity.

 

I'm pretty sure rchap misheard that and it was Marshall and Atkins.

 

Swear on my life thats what Levine said....however Levine is usually wrong