4/7 Cubs (Lilly) at Pirates (Gorzelanny), 12:30 PM CT, WGN

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I'm starting to like that Hart fella

[bukie]

To anyone who knows the system and minors well, could Hart be a decent option at starter for us?

Decent, perhaps. The major obstacle to that at this point is that he's likely 9th in the pecking order for a starter this year, behind the current rotation and Lieber, Marshall and Gallagher.

 

Basically, I don't see it happening this year, barring some huge transactions involving 3 of the guys above him.

[Tyrant]

My last post on this topic...

 

Cedeno's poor defense >>>>>>> Cedeno good bat

 

That's all I'm trying to say.

 

Cedno's poor defense + Cedeno's good bat > Theriot's average defense + Theriot's terrible bat.

 

If the bolded part were true, it would help your argument.

[Rob]

To anyone who knows the system and minors well, could Hart be a decent option at starter for us?

 

He's an interesting case, as the entire book on him has changed since he came into the organization last season (in the Bynum deal). When he got here, Rothschild taught him a cutter which he has really taken to... and we're still just kinda trying to see how he keeps going.

 

My guess? He could be better than Marquis... maybe Dempster. I don't see him anywhere near the top 3 guys, though.

[Outshined_One]

To anyone who knows the system and minors well, could Hart be a decent option at starter for us?

Decent, perhaps. The major obstacle to that at this point is that he's likely 9th in the pecking order for a starter this year, behind the current rotation and Lieber, Marshall and Gallagher.

 

Basically, I don't see it happening this year, barring some huge transactions involving 3 of the guys above him.

 

I think Hart's best suited for the bullpen. He has one true plus pitch along with some so-so other pitches. He could be a decent back end of the rotation guy down the line, but I think he's better suited to relief work at the moment.

[mul21]

To anyone who knows the system and minors well, could Hart be a decent option at starter for us?

Decent, perhaps. The major obstacle to that at this point is that he's likely 9th in the pecking order for a starter this year, behind the current rotation and Lieber, Marshall and Gallagher.

 

Basically, I don't see it happening this year, barring some huge transactions involving 3 of the guys above him.

 

I say we send Marshall, Marquis, and Murton to Oakland for Harden.

[Banedon]

My last post on this topic...

 

Cedeno's poor defense >>>>>>> Cedeno good bat

 

That's all I'm trying to say.

 

Cedno's poor defense + Cedeno's good bat > Theriot's average defense + Theriot's terrible bat.

 

If the bolded part were true, it would help your argument.

 

Cedeno's "better than Theriot" bat then?

[Derwood]

well that's 3 more days on the bench for Pie

[erik316wttn]

Reed Johnson is good at baseball.

 

Who did we trade for him, anyway?

[Flames24Rulz]

Reed Johnson isn't that bad.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Johnson singled to left field

[Brian]

Bob is really not on the Pie bandwagon at all.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Reed Johnson is looking to be a solid signing.

[YearofDaCubs]

My last post on this topic...

 

Cedeno's poor defense >>>>>>> Cedeno good bat

 

That's all I'm trying to say.

 

Cedno's poor defense + Cedeno's good bat > Theriot's average defense + Theriot's terrible bat.

Calling Cedeno's bat good is a stretch.

[Guest]

To anyone who knows the system and minors well, could Hart be a decent option at starter for us?

 

He'd be decent but I think he's better off as a reliever. Now a guy like Marmol would probably be better as a starter, same for Gallagher (but for different reasons).

[Derwood]

Reed Johnson is good at baseball.

 

Who did we trade for him, anyway?

 

cash (ie we signed him)

[illiniguy]

To anyone who knows the system and minors well, could Hart be a decent option at starter for us?

Decent, perhaps. The major obstacle to that at this point is that he's likely 9th in the pecking order for a starter this year, behind the current rotation and Lieber, Marshall and Gallagher.

 

Basically, I don't see it happening this year, barring some huge transactions involving 3 of the guys above him.

 

I think Hart's best suited for the bullpen. He has one true plus pitch along with some so-so other pitches. He could be a decent back end of the rotation guy down the line, but I think he's better suited to relief work at the moment.

That's kinda what I thought to, but it would be nice to be able to use him to free up some other guys to trade for a decent shortstop.

[98navigator]

Nice AB Reed.

[Tyrant]

To anyone who knows the system and minors well, could Hart be a decent option at starter for us?

Decent, perhaps. The major obstacle to that at this point is that he's likely 9th in the pecking order for a starter this year, behind the current rotation and Lieber, Marshall and Gallagher.

 

Basically, I don't see it happening this year, barring some huge transactions involving 3 of the guys above him.

 

I say we send Marshall, Marquis, and Murton to Oakland for Harden.

 

Billy Beane, unfortunately, says "no."

[Roast]

Reed Johnson is good at baseball.

 

Who did we trade for him, anyway?

We signed him as a FA

[ChiCubsFan]

Pie is losing a lot of playing time

[Butterscup1679666578]

man Lee is just locked in.

[E.J.]

DLEE is absolutely on fire.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Damn, Lee is hot!

[nolanwood]

'05: 41 games, 80 AB's, .300/.356

 

'06: 151 games, 534 AB's, .245/.271

 

'07: 38 games, 74 AB's, .203/.231

 

I'll be more than willing to bump this thread back to the top for all you Cedeno fans when he doesn't reach base again for the next few games... I saw the rbi's today, it was fantastic hit; however he's shown no sign that those will come very often. The more MLB experience he accumulates, the more his weaknesses are exposed. For the record I don't think Theriot is a much better option...