Levine: Fukudome a Cub (was Kosuke coming to U.S.)

[anabiono]

seriously...who really wants to play for the padres when you can play for the baby bears?!?

[Lefty]

 

I'm secretly agreeing with you guys here about finals week, but I'm also quite sure that almost everyone else on this site would be in the college situation if they could, so I'm not going to complain about it.

 

 

It is true that your college and post-college years are the best years of your life. Don't screw it up. But, as someone who is old enough to be your father, been there done that. I wouldn't want to do it again. There's plenty of good stuff later on, too.

 

I wouldn't mind going through college again. Most of the women there are...well, college age.

 

The wife would probably frown on that though.

 

Would you want your wife going through college again?

[fromthestretch]

 

I'm secretly agreeing with you guys here about finals week, but I'm also quite sure that almost everyone else on this site would be in the college situation if they could, so I'm not going to complain about it.

 

 

It is true that your college and post-college years are the best years of your life. Don't screw it up. But, as someone who is old enough to be your father, been there done that. I wouldn't want to do it again. There's plenty of good stuff later on, too.

 

I wouldn't mind going through college again. Most of the women there are...well, college age.

 

The wife would probably frown on that though.

 

Would you want your wife going through college again?

 

Thanks for crapping on my fantasy. :lol:

 

Seriously though, while I'm certainly not complaining about my life post-college, I do miss college life sometimes. I enjoyed having a much more flexible schedule back then.

[Lefty]

Seriously though, while I'm certainly not complaining about my life post-college, I do miss college life sometimes. I enjoyed having a much more flexible schedule back then.

 

I'm curious. Roughly how long have you been out of college?

[jersey cubs fan]

I have a bad feeling he will sign with the Padres.

 

What upsets me more is that so much is invested in Fukudome this late in the offseason.

 

 

It's not like it was a banner FA market this year. We didn't have many more choices (if any) besides K-Fuk.

 

It's times like these that I like to point out that had Hendry done a better job the past 5 years, perhaps we wouldn't be stuck hoping against hope in a weak market.

[fromthestretch]

Seriously though, while I'm certainly not complaining about my life post-college, I do miss college life sometimes. I enjoyed having a much more flexible schedule back then.

 

I'm curious. Roughly how long have you been out of college?

 

A little over a decade. There are pros and cons to college life and post-college life, and a lot of that can be impacted by the person's area of study. I can certainly see how some would love to get back to the routine (or lack thereof) they had in college.

 

Sorry to derail the thread, folks. Lefty, feel free to PM me if you wish to discuss further.

 

Sign Fukudome!

[minnesotacubsfan]

I have a bad feeling he will sign with the Padres.

 

What upsets me more is that so much is invested in Fukudome this late in the offseason.

 

 

It's not like it was a banner FA market this year. We didn't have many more choices (if any) besides K-Fuk.

 

It's times like these that I like to point out that had Hendry done a better job the past 5 years, perhaps we wouldn't be stuck hoping against hope in a weak market.

 

yaa

 

 

but plz come to chicago Fuku

[Burtonbell]

I have a bad feeling he will sign with the Padres.

 

What upsets me more is that so much is invested in Fukudome this late in the offseason.

 

 

It's not like it was a banner FA market this year. We didn't have many more choices (if any) besides K-Fuk.

 

It's times like these that I like to point out that had Hendry done a better job the past 5 years, perhaps we wouldn't be stuck hoping against hope in a weak market.

 

Ha! So true... ](*,)

[nick23]

Not sure if this has been posted yet from Rotoworld.

 

Kosuke Fukudome-OF-Player Dec. 11 - 9:59 am et

 

The Cubs have offered Kosuke Fukudome close to $50 million, according to the San Diego Union Tribune.

 

That deal would likely trump the Padres' initial offer, which is reportedly worth over $10 million per season for three years. The White Sox are also believed to be in the running for Fukudome, who announced Tuesday that he's leaving Japan for MLB.

Source: San

[E.J.]

Not sure if this has been posted yet from Rotoworld.

 

Kosuke Fukudome-OF-Player Dec. 11 - 9:59 am et

 

The Cubs have offered Kosuke Fukudome close to $50 million, according to the San Diego Union Tribune.

 

That deal would likely trump the Padres' initial offer, which is reportedly worth over $10 million per season for three years. The White Sox are also believed to be in the running for Fukudome, who announced Tuesday that he's leaving Japan for MLB.

Source: San

 

$50 million? Yikes.

[Jon]

That could be a disaster.

 

Another one, that is.

[brinoch]

Okay, I've seen several "clever" uses of Fukudome's name to clearly end around both the board's guidelines and the word censor. This is a family site, and the language used should meet that standard. It's not like everyone doesn't know this. So, here's your obligatory blanket warning. Any additional postings in this manner will result in warnings and bannings. Got it? Good.

[jersey cubs fan]

Not sure if this has been posted yet from Rotoworld.

 

Kosuke Fukudome-OF-Player Dec. 11 - 9:59 am et

 

The Cubs have offered Kosuke Fukudome close to $50 million, according to the San Diego Union Tribune.

 

That deal would likely trump the Padres' initial offer, which is reportedly worth over $10 million per season for three years. The White Sox are also believed to be in the running for Fukudome, who announced Tuesday that he's leaving Japan for MLB.

Source: San

 

$50 million? Yikes.

 

Over what time period? 3/$50 is pretty much insane. 4/$50, with an opt out after 3 years is much more reasonable. If SD is over $10m for 3, that could be 3/33.

[The Voice of Reason]

Not sure if this has been posted yet from Rotoworld.

 

Kosuke Fukudome-OF-Player Dec. 11 - 9:59 am et

 

The Cubs have offered Kosuke Fukudome close to $50 million, according to the San Diego Union Tribune.

 

That deal would likely trump the Padres' initial offer, which is reportedly worth over $10 million per season for three years. The White Sox are also believed to be in the running for Fukudome, who announced Tuesday that he's leaving Japan for MLB.

Source: San

 

Did the Cubs go up from yesterday to 5 years a $10 million or is it a 4 year $12.5 offer? I really hope this isn't Furcal all over again.

 

http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10522930/2

 

The Padres are believed to be offering $36 million over three years, similar to the deal Kansas City bestowed on outfielder Jose Guillen. The Cubs are believed to be at four years and more than $40 million.

[ottawacubbie]

That could be a disaster.

 

Another one, that is.

 

That isn't too bad . . . as long as it is $50 over 12 years.

 

That said, I say offer him the moon if you can do it through acheivable incentives. 600 PA, .280 BA, 20 HR, 100 BB etc. and then the usual ones (not as reachable) MVP, All Star Game and GG.

 

However, with Hendry seeing this as the Fulcrum of our season he probably offered $50 a year with five years of player options increasing by 20 per cent.

[gflore34]

That could be a disaster.

 

Another one, that is.

 

Most definitely, it could be but, I'm beyond the point of caring about the economic ramifications, I’d like to see Cub WS in my lifetime, if this signing gets the Cubs there costs be damned.

[XZero771679666304]

Four years, 50 million plus is right in the neighborhood of what I was expecting.

[anabiono]

That could be a disaster.

 

Another one, that is.

 

Most definitely, it could be but, I'm beyond the point of caring about the economic ramifications, I’d like to see Cub WS in my lifetime, if this signing gets the Cubs there costs be damned.

 

 

yes yes and more yes

[roadster]

Not sure if this has been posted yet from Rotoworld.

 

Kosuke Fukudome-OF-Player Dec. 11 - 9:59 am et

 

The Cubs have offered Kosuke Fukudome close to $50 million, according to the San Diego Union Tribune.

 

That deal would likely trump the Padres' initial offer, which is reportedly worth over $10 million per season for three years. The White Sox are also believed to be in the running for Fukudome, who announced Tuesday that he's leaving Japan for MLB.

Source: San

 

Did the Cubs go up from yesterday to 5 years a $10 million or is it a 4 year $12.5 offer? I really hope this isn't Furcal all over again.

 

http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10522930/2

 

The Padres are believed to be offering $36 million over three years, similar to the deal Kansas City bestowed on outfielder Jose Guillen. The Cubs are believed to be at four years and more than $40 million.

 

Not sure if posted or not (don't want to go through pages upon pages) but Steve Stone was quoted on the radio saying that the Cubs' offer would be for 4 years/52 to 60MM - yikes...

[abuck1220]

after the furcal situation, i see hendry refusing to be outbid on this one. he's going to pay a ridiculous amount.

[XZero771679666304]

Not sure if this has been posted yet from Rotoworld.

 

Kosuke Fukudome-OF-Player Dec. 11 - 9:59 am et

 

The Cubs have offered Kosuke Fukudome close to $50 million, according to the San Diego Union Tribune.

 

That deal would likely trump the Padres' initial offer, which is reportedly worth over $10 million per season for three years. The White Sox are also believed to be in the running for Fukudome, who announced Tuesday that he's leaving Japan for MLB.

Source: San

 

Did the Cubs go up from yesterday to 5 years a $10 million or is it a 4 year $12.5 offer? I really hope this isn't Furcal all over again.

 

http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10522930/2

 

The Padres are believed to be offering $36 million over three years, similar to the deal Kansas City bestowed on outfielder Jose Guillen. The Cubs are believed to be at four years and more than $40 million.

 

Not sure if posted or not (don't want to go through pages upon pages) but Steve Stone was quoted on the radio saying that the Cubs' offer would be for 4 years/52 to 60MM - yikes...

 

 

I don't see why anyone should be surprised by this. The eggs are all in one basket.

[jersey cubs fan]

That could be a disaster.

 

Another one, that is.

 

Most definitely, it could be but, I'm beyond the point of caring about the economic ramifications, I’d like to see Cub WS in my lifetime, if this signing gets the Cubs there costs be damned.

 

As a fan the only reason to care about financial ramificiations is the worry that a couple years down the road this will be less money available for worthy assets and more being spent on lost causes. That was when Tribune was the owner and you could be reasonably assured that payroll would be rising at a steady rate, and therefore, have a pretty good idea of what impact a contract would have 2-3 years from now. With the ownership in flux, right now there's no way to know what will happen in 2-3 years. It's possible the new owner will just freeze payroll, or maybe even cut it. It's happened before when franchises were sold. If that were to happen, it really wouldn't matter what Hendry gives guys today, because the team will be screwed regardless. It's also possible the new owner will go balls out, in which case it'll be relatively easy to eat these contracts. Of course, they could turn out to be fairly similar to Tribune, and see the payroll rise 5-10% year over year. In that case, it'll take a lot of creativity for the next GM to fix some of Jim's mistakes.

 

But at least with a guy like Fukudome, you are overpaying for somebody who at least has a chance to be very very good. He'll probably never be excellent or elite, not at his age and with his limitations. But it's better than overpaying for somebody, who, if everything works out, will just be average.

[The Voice of Reason]

after the furcal situation, i see hendry refusing to be outbid on this one. he's going to pay a ridiculous amount.

 

 

Let him. What are the new owners going to do, buy the team and then create ill will with the fans by using the back loaded contracts as an excuse not to continue to increase the payroll?

 

No, they are going to suck it up and let the payroll increase to Red Sox levels where it should be.

[ottawacubbie]

Wasn't it similar situations that lead to bad contracts with Mo Vaughn and the Red Sox and Albert Belle in Baltimore or do I have my history wrong. Logic has no worse enemy then a GM scorned. All hail King Furcaldome!

[jersey cubs fan]

Not sure if posted or not (don't want to go through pages upon pages) but Steve Stone was quoted on the radio saying that the Cubs' offer would be for 4 years/52 to 60MM - yikes...

 

I wouldn't be upset with 4/60, if it's backloaded and the 4th year is either a player option or it includes a player opt out. If the first three years pay something like $39-42m, it may not be awful. Odds are he'll wind up opting out after 3 years and look for one last big major league contract, at the age of 32/33. At that point, hopefully the Cubs will be able to replace him with some more reasonably priced internal option, or maybe even another import.