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I'm sure this has been said but what does Robert's contract look like?

 

6.3 million in 08, 8 million in 09, free agent after 09. A pretty reasonable deal to be trading for. It's not too long to worry too much about him declining, he can't become a free agent after this year, and the money is about right (actually cheap for the current market) for his production.

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100 Pages... Haven't won a title in 100 years...

 

Maybe this is the type of Karma that will get the trade done and Roberts wins world series MVP. Also, this is my 100th post.

 

Do you hear the twilight zone theme?

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I'm sure this has been said but what does Robert's contract look like?

 

6.3 million in 08, 8 million in 09, free agent after 09. A pretty reasonable deal to be trading for. It's not too long to worry too much about him declining, he can't become a free agent after this year, and the money is about right (actually cheap for the current market) for his production.

Reasonable for the production, yes, but adding that contract nearly maxes out the payroll if it indeed falls in the anticipated $120-$125 million range. That means that we'd probably have to find a way to shed at least several million dollars if we want to add a decent pitcher afterwards. I'm wondering how many prospects we'll have to give up if we want to trade for a Burnett-type pitcher and ask the other team to take salary back in return. Of course it is possible that the payroll will get an even bigger bump than to $125 million, but I'm not ready to assume that will happen just yet.

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sure, the one guy I want in the deal

 

I agree.

 

Wee, posting on page 100!

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I'm sure this has been said but what does Robert's contract look like?

 

6.3 million in 08, 8 million in 09, free agent after 09. A pretty reasonable deal to be trading for. It's not too long to worry too much about him declining, he can't become a free agent after this year, and the money is about right (actually cheap for the current market) for his production.

Reasonable for the production, yes, but adding that contract nearly maxes out the payroll if it indeed falls in the anticipated $120-$125 million range. That means that we'd probably have to find a way to shed at least several million dollars if we want to add a decent pitcher afterwards. I'm wondering how many prospects we'll have to give up if we want to trade for a Burnett/Blanton-type pitcher and ask the other team to take salary back in return.

 

Agreed, but I think that pushes the Cubs even more to Burnett than to Blanton. The A's are looking to rebuild, while the Blue Jays just want to get rid of Burnett. The Blue Jays are much more interested in major league talent coming back than the A's, and there is plenty of speculation that they may like DeRosa and Dempster, which would both fulfill most of the trade value needed for Burnett plus make it so the Cubs wouldn't have to add much salary in the deal.

 

I'm not even sure the Cubs would go after one of those #2-#3 type starters though. They may just sign another #5 starter to replace the #5 starters they would lose in the Roberts trade, such as Lieber (Bruce did confirm they are interested in him). If they did that, it also wouldn't bump the payroll past the limit.

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Why are people complaining about this being a long transaction thread?

 

There are no other Cubs transactions even rumored at the moment.

 

I think people are marvelling at the length more than complaining.

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Why are people complaining about this being a long transaction thread?

 

There are no other Cubs transactions even rumored at the moment.

 

I think people are post whoring at the length more than complaining.

 

Fixed.

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We're not long from how long the Soriano thread got...

 

We're already well past it. Check the Soriano thread in this board format. It's 91 pages and 2270 posts long. This thread is 100 pages and 2490 posts long.

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We're not long from how long the Soriano thread got...

 

We're already well past it. Check the Soriano thread in this board format. It's 91 pages and 2270 posts long. This thread is 100 pages and 2490 posts long.

 

I still can't believe he got 8 freaking years. Unbelievable. You agree?

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It's interesting to read the blind faith the Orioles Hangout people have in their sources. Many of them are still sitting there insisting that a deal is done and that MacPhail is just covering it up, which doesn't make any sense. It's not a UFO investigation.

 

My own tinfoil-hat theory is that the OH admins just post rumors/info like this to boost site traffic for their advertising. Their traffic probably goes up ten-fold on a day like yesterday, which I'm sure doesn't hurt their revenue stream.

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I think people are marvelling at the length more than complaining.

 

That's what she said.

 

Gah, you beat me to it. Only I was going to say something more like, "yeah, happens to me all the time."....Even though thats not true, it only happens occasionally.

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It's interesting to read the blind faith the Orioles Hangout people have in their sources. Many of them are still sitting there insisting that a deal is done and that MacPhail is just covering it up, which doesn't make any sense. It's not a UFO investigation.

 

My own tinfoil-hat theory is that the OH admins just post rumors/info like this to boost site traffic for their advertising. Their traffic probably goes up ten-fold on a day like yesterday, which I'm sure doesn't hurt their revenue stream.

 

If I was a GM/Team President with a clear problem with leaks that I considered to be harmful, I'd try and smoke out the leakers, personally.

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It's interesting to read the blind faith the Orioles Hangout people have in their sources. Many of them are still sitting there insisting that a deal is done and that MacPhail is just covering it up, which doesn't make any sense. It's not a UFO investigation.

 

My own tinfoil-hat theory is that the OH admins just post rumors/info like this to boost site traffic for their advertising. Their traffic probably goes up ten-fold on a day like yesterday, which I'm sure doesn't hurt their revenue stream.

 

If I was a GM/Team President with a clear problem with leaks that I considered to be harmful, I'd try and smoke out the leakers, personally.

 

Especially if I was from the buttoned-down old school corporate school of baseball management hired to clean up a horribly run sloppy franchise.

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100 pages.

 

100/2500, now there's a lot of hullabaloo about nuttin'

 

 

edit: I was the one to push it to 2500! Now I feel special :mrgreen:

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