The Kobe thread (Formerly Kobe to be traded by Oct 30)

[rawaction]

I think Kirk could be the difference between the Bulls being a championship team w/ Kobe or not. Hinrich's defense is pretty valuable. Kobe coming in would take him off the big guards and make him that much better on D.

 

Also, if Gordon is not involved, I think he can play a decent point. Heck, he'd be as good at the point (ball handling wise) than BJ Armstrong, John Paxson, Steve Kerr, or Craig Hodges, but a much better scorer/creator. I know Pippen took some of the ball handling load off those guys, but Kobe can do that. It's not like the ball will be taken from Gordon in the backcourt or anything.

 

But again, Gordon doesn't measure up defensively.

[Soul]

I still think there's a chance this is all speculation and the actual power players are sitting around watching TV or something.

 

Ding Dongs. They're watching TV eating Ding Dongs, laughing at us.

[Jon]

Come on, people. 25 minutes since the last post. I need an update at least every 15 minutes.

[C.C.]

Did we get ARod yet?

[wolf stansson]

Ric Bucher was on ESPN talking about the trade. Here is what he said:

 

NOW Kirk isn't in latest iteration, but his source at one of the 3 teams said that deal currently NOT agreed upon.

 

Also he said Gordon is in new (currently not agreed-up deal), but also that Wallace could be.

 

Me likey.

OH MAN ME TOO

 

Kirk is not a deal breaker by any means, but I love him.

 

He is, as you said, underrated, impossible to replace this season and to top it off, I'd have to get a new photobucket account name.

[inari]

Get this done, Pax. Please.

[UMFan83]

Come on, people. 25 minutes since the last post. I need an update at least every 15 minutes.

 

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=723612&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=468

[Andy]

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

 

Make this happen

[Jon]

I think I'd wet myself if they managed to get Kobe without giving up either Hinrich or Deng.

[Soul]

Most of this stuff is coming from the Score. Not saying none of it is true, but people need to remember -- this station has an absolutely abysmal record of accuracy. Abysmal.

[Coach C]

I think he'll be traded to Chicago today.

[bukie]

If we're making up trade scenarios (like RealGM seems to be), toss Wallace, Duhon, Gordon and Noah to whatever teams want them, and call it a trade.

[Magnetic Curses]

how can anyone say that they don't want the kobe trade to happen?

 

the bulls are a good team, they are just a good team. they are a playoff caliber team that could make the finals and then lose badly to whoever they play there.

 

they are the same team as last year and they aren't getting much better.

[Soul]

how can anyone say that they don't want the kobe trade to happen?

 

the bulls are a good team, they are just a good team. they are a playoff caliber team that could make the finals and then lose badly to whoever they play there.

 

they are the same team as last year and they aren't getting much better.

 

They could get worse if the Lakers get our entire roster for Kobe. I agree they aren't likely to make a huge leap as they are, but 2nd round playoffs is better than no playoffs or a one-and-done scenario.

 

And if there's no team around Kobe, I could very easily envision a scenario developing where Kobe is hating life, making everyone else miserable, and the team is winning in the neighborhood of 35 games. If that happened then we just gave up the farm for a nightmare.

 

The trade has to be the right trade, or I'd rather it not happen at all.

[Flames24Rulz]

how can anyone say that they don't want the kobe trade to happen?

 

the bulls are a good team, they are just a good team. they are a playoff caliber team that could make the finals and then lose badly to whoever they play there.

 

they are the same team as last year and they aren't getting much better.

 

EXACTLY!

 

Some of these people on RealGM are absolute homers.

[Flames24Rulz]

how can anyone say that they don't want the kobe trade to happen?

 

the bulls are a good team, they are just a good team. they are a playoff caliber team that could make the finals and then lose badly to whoever they play there.

 

they are the same team as last year and they aren't getting much better.

 

They could get worse if the Lakers get our entire roster for Kobe. I agree they aren't likely to make a huge leap as they are, but 2nd round playoffs is better than no playoffs or a one-and-done scenario.

 

And if there's no team around Kobe, I could very easily envision a scenario developing where Kobe is hating life, making everyone else miserable, and the team is winning in the neighborhood of 35 games. If that happened then we just gave up the farm for a nightmare.

 

The trade has to be the right trade, or I'd rather it not happen at all.

 

Pax has made it clear he won't gut the team for anybody. I wouldn't worry about giving up too much in any trade.

[killthegoat06]

how can anyone say that they don't want the kobe trade to happen?

 

the bulls are a good team, they are just a good team. they are a playoff caliber team that could make the finals and then lose badly to whoever they play there.

 

they are the same team as last year and they aren't getting much better.

 

They could get worse if the Lakers get our entire roster for Kobe. I agree they aren't likely to make a huge leap as they are, but 2nd round playoffs is better than no playoffs or a one-and-done scenario.

 

And if there's no team around Kobe, I could very easily envision a scenario developing where Kobe is hating life, making everyone else miserable, and the team is winning in the neighborhood of 35 games. If that happened then we just gave up the farm for a nightmare.

 

The trade has to be the right trade, or I'd rather it not happen at all.

 

Pax has made it clear he won't gut the team for anybody. I wouldn't worry about giving up too much in any trade.

 

Plus Kobe will veto the trade if we give up to much.

[killthegoat06]

I think he'll be traded to Chicago today.

 

Magic Johnson said this won't happen because he needs to get Deng in any deal.

[Flames24Rulz]

I think he'll be traded to Chicago today.

 

Magic Johnson said this won't happen because he needs to get Deng in any deal.

 

Again, he probably just used that for leverage. Kobe has made it clear that he does not want Deng in any trade.

[Guest]

Thank god the deal involving the Lakers receiving Artest and Wallace in return is dead. That would be HORRIBLE.

[ZMovieman]

Sorry if this is repeating, but ESPN just said the proposed though not approved deal is as follows:

 

Bulls get Kobe

Bulls trade Gordon, PJ Brown, and Ben Wallace

 

Kings get Gordon and PJ Brown

Kings trade Ron Artest

 

Lakers get Artest and Wallace

Lakers trade Kobe

 

Anyone else hear this?

[killthegoat06]

I think he'll be traded to Chicago today.

 

Magic Johnson said this won't happen because he needs to get Deng in any deal.

 

Again, he probably just used that for leverage. Kobe has made it clear that he does not want Deng in any trade.

 

Do you think there really is a chance that the deal gets done today?

[wekse]

they just had bucher on SC and he said the 3 way deal has fallen through

[Flames24Rulz]

I think he'll be traded to Chicago today.

 

Magic Johnson said this won't happen because he needs to get Deng in any deal.

 

Again, he probably just used that for leverage. Kobe has made it clear that he does not want Deng in any trade.

 

Do you think there really is a chance that the deal gets done today?

 

Based on everything I've heard from the Lakers, yes I do. It seems quite clear that they are ready to move on without Kobe. I doubt they let him stick around for another month and a half.

[killthegoat06]

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=68092

 

 

Trade rumors involving Los Angeles Lakers superstar Kobe Bryant coming to the Bulls just won't go away. In fact, they are getting hotter and heavier by the minute.

 

The latest, as reported by WSCR 670-AM, has Bryant coming to the Bulls as part of a three-way deal involving the Sacramento Kings.

 

Bulls guard Kirk Hinrich and Kings forward Ron Artest, a former Bulls, could wind up in Los Angeles.

 

The rumor was also being discussed on WMVP 1000-AM.

 

A Bulls source denied any deal was imminent.