Cliff Floyd?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Another name, Shannon Stewart. Could he handle CF?

[Guest]

That would give us a current bench of:

 

Blanco - catcher

Ward - Lefty stick, Corner OF/1B

Wilson - Righty stick, All OF

Theriot - IF / pinch runner

Derosa - super utility

 

Now all we need is a quality second baseman. :D

 

j/k - we still need one more infield backup.

 

If you can't get a really good stick, Cedeno should have this job. AAA will do him no good, and the typical cheap backup MI won't be any better.

I'd give Cedeno the chance to earn the job in ST, but if he didn't look like he has improved from last season, I'd strongly consider de-rostering him and putting McGehee on the roster as he could also be an emergency C for me.

[Guest]

Another name, Shannon Stewart. Could he handle CF?

ack! no.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Another name, Shannon Stewart. Could he handle CF?

ack! no.

 

What's wrong with him? Even in his down years he's put up decent enough OBPs, and for his career he has a nice platoon split, especially for a CF. Or were you saying that in reference to his defense in CF?

[KingCubsFan]

Another name, Shannon Stewart. Could he handle CF?

He hasn't played there in about 6 years, and hasn't played CF regularly for almost 10. Plus, i think he's had a lot of leg injuries

[Guest]

Another name, Shannon Stewart. Could he handle CF?

ack! no.

 

What's wrong with him? Even in his down years he's put up decent enough OBPs, and for his career he has a nice platoon split, especially for a CF. Or were you saying that in reference to his defense in CF?

Bingo.

 

Stewart is a pretty awful defender, even in LF.

[Post Count Padder]

Ben Maller of foxsports.com wrote today:

 

The new Cubs to-do list includes adding a left-handed-hitting outfielder, although the team seems to be in no hurry to sign free-agent outfielder Cliff Floyd, who has physical questions after missing parts of last season with Achilles' tendon problems.

[Soul]

Is anyone else even interested in Floyd? I wouldn't mind seeing him signed---for a decent price.

 

Just wondering. Doesn't sound like we have much competition.

[BigbadB]

I'd rather have a CFer.

 

If they are looking at another corner outfielder, Huff is the guy they should be looking at. He can play multiple positions. Floyd can only play the same positions Ward plays.

[Soul]

I'd rather have a CFer.

 

If they are looking at another corner outfielder, Huff is the guy they should be looking at. He can play multiple positions. Floyd can only play the same positions Ward plays.

 

There's a name I haven't heard in a bit. Wasn't Huff going to sign with the Stros?

[BigbadB]

This is the latest from Rotoworld:

 

Though the Pirates need a left-handed power hitter, they haven't been in contact with free agent Aubrey Huff.

 

The Orioles also don't seem very interested in Huff at his current asking price. Unless someone else steps up, Huff might have to settle for a one-year deal somewhere. It's believed he's asking for about $9 million per year for three seasons.

Source: Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

 

A 1 year deal would be interesting. I think I read somewhere on here that Piniella wasn't all that fond of Huff, but I don't remember exactly how it was phrased.

 

A month ago, there was talk about Huff staying with the Astros, but I'm not sure where those talks went.

[BigbadB]

The Pirates would have a really nice line up with Huff at 1b. Just not sure they're willing to fork out the cash for him.

[abuck1220]

According to Jerry Crasnick in today's chat for ESPN, he remarked on the status of the Cubs' negotations with free agent outfielder Cliff Floyd:

 

"I'm hearing that the Cliff Floyd signing will come soon. He has some health issues, but he's a good on base percentage guy and a great clubhouse guy. He should be a nice fit for the Cubs."

 

Floyd's power plummetted in 2006, another injury-plagued year. Cornelius Clifford Floyd, born in Chicago, recently turned 34. He's been connected to the Cubs and Jim Hendry for years.

 

I'm guessing he'd be the part of a left field platoon that faces righties. I don't like the idea. It seems like a great way to stunt Matt Murton's growth and waste a year of cheap service time. Floyd hit .266/.342/.423 against righties in '06. Murton managed a .295/.356/.426 line against them in his first full sesaon. The Big Murt also hit .319/.390/.522 after the break. And he has red hair.

 

If a Floyd signing precedes a Jacque Jones trade, who plays right? Floyd hasn't done it since '02. And when Floyd gets hurt, the Cubs will miss the reliably mediocre Jones. If Soriano goes to right, the Cubs are forced to rush Felix Pie.

 

why is hendry doing this again?

[goonys evil twin]

According to Jerry Crasnick in today's chat for ESPN, he remarked on the status of the Cubs' negotations with free agent outfielder Cliff Floyd:

 

"I'm hearing that the Cliff Floyd signing will come soon. He has some health issues, but he's a good on base percentage guy and a great clubhouse guy. He should be a nice fit for the Cubs."

 

Floyd's power plummetted in 2006, another injury-plagued year. Cornelius Clifford Floyd, born in Chicago, recently turned 34. He's been connected to the Cubs and Jim Hendry for years.

 

I'm guessing he'd be the part of a left field platoon that faces righties. I don't like the idea. It seems like a great way to stunt Matt Murton's growth and waste a year of cheap service time. Floyd hit .266/.342/.423 against righties in '06. Murton managed a .295/.356/.426 line against them in his first full sesaon. The Big Murt also hit .319/.390/.522 after the break. And he has red hair.

 

If a Floyd signing precedes a Jacque Jones trade, who plays right? Floyd hasn't done it since '02. And when Floyd gets hurt, the Cubs will miss the reliably mediocre Jones. If Soriano goes to right, the Cubs are forced to rush Felix Pie.

 

why is hendry doing this again?

 

The theory is he won't be as bad as he was in the banged up 2006. If he's better than that, it will be a nice combo. If he's as bad as he was last year, I'd hope to heck that Lou limits his playing time.

[Jehrico]

According to Jerry Crasnick in today's chat for ESPN, he remarked on the status of the Cubs' negotations with free agent outfielder Cliff Floyd:

 

"I'm hearing that the Cliff Floyd signing will come soon. He has some health issues, but he's a good on base percentage guy and a great clubhouse guy. He should be a nice fit for the Cubs."

 

Floyd's power plummetted in 2006, another injury-plagued year. Cornelius Clifford Floyd, born in Chicago, recently turned 34. He's been connected to the Cubs and Jim Hendry for years.

 

I'm guessing he'd be the part of a left field platoon that faces righties. I don't like the idea. It seems like a great way to stunt Matt Murton's growth and waste a year of cheap service time. Floyd hit .266/.342/.423 against righties in '06. Murton managed a .295/.356/.426 line against them in his first full sesaon. The Big Murt also hit .319/.390/.522 after the break. And he has red hair.

 

If a Floyd signing precedes a Jacque Jones trade, who plays right? Floyd hasn't done it since '02. And when Floyd gets hurt, the Cubs will miss the reliably mediocre Jones. If Soriano goes to right, the Cubs are forced to rush Felix Pie.

 

why is hendry doing this again?

I wouldn't mind seeing Floyd signed and put in a platoon with Jones. Dusty couldn't be trusted with that, as he would bench Murton instead. I don't know about Piniella. His history in tampa wasn't favorable in that regard, but he wasn't near as bad as Dusty in that regard.

[XZero771679666304]

According to Jerry Crasnick in today's chat for ESPN, he remarked on the status of the Cubs' negotations with free agent outfielder Cliff Floyd:

 

"I'm hearing that the Cliff Floyd signing will come soon. He has some health issues, but he's a good on base percentage guy and a great clubhouse guy. He should be a nice fit for the Cubs."

 

Floyd's power plummetted in 2006, another injury-plagued year. Cornelius Clifford Floyd, born in Chicago, recently turned 34. He's been connected to the Cubs and Jim Hendry for years.

 

I'm guessing he'd be the part of a left field platoon that faces righties. I don't like the idea. It seems like a great way to stunt Matt Murton's growth and waste a year of cheap service time. Floyd hit .266/.342/.423 against righties in '06. Murton managed a .295/.356/.426 line against them in his first full sesaon. The Big Murt also hit .319/.390/.522 after the break. And he has red hair.

 

If a Floyd signing precedes a Jacque Jones trade, who plays right? Floyd hasn't done it since '02. And when Floyd gets hurt, the Cubs will miss the reliably mediocre Jones. If Soriano goes to right, the Cubs are forced to rush Felix Pie.

 

why is hendry doing this again?

I wouldn't mind seeing Floyd signed and put in a platoon with Jones. Dusty couldn't be trusted with that, as he would bench Murton instead. I don't know about Piniella. His history in tampa wasn't favorable in that regard, but he wasn't near as bad as Dusty in that regard.

 

Why would you platoon Floyd and Jones? They're both LH, with similar splits.

[goonys evil twin]

From 2000-2005 Floyd's OPS against RHP was well over 900. If he repeats that, he'd be a big addition to the team.

 

In 2006, it was 765. If he does that again, and plays over Murton a lot, and Pie starts in CF, this lineup could actually be worse than last years.

[XZero771679666304]

From 2000-2005 Floyd's OPS against RHP was well over 900. If he repeats that, he'd be a big addition to the team.

 

In 2006, it was 765. If he does that again, and plays over Murton a lot, and Pie starts in CF, this lineup could actually be worse than last years.

 

As long as Lee, Ramirez, Soriano and Barrett play full seasons, I can't think of any permutation among all the mentioned possibilities that could make the offense as bad as last year's.

 

And I think everyone, including Floyd himself, knows he is at best a half time player. If they tried to play him the majority of the time, he'd break down.

[goonys evil twin]

From 2000-2005 Floyd's OPS against RHP was well over 900. If he repeats that, he'd be a big addition to the team.

 

In 2006, it was 765. If he does that again, and plays over Murton a lot, and Pie starts in CF, this lineup could actually be worse than last years.

 

As long as Lee, Ramirez, Soriano and Barrett play full seasons, I can't think of any permutation among all the mentioned possibilities that could make the offense as bad as last year's.

 

And I think everyone, including Floyd himself, knows he is at best a half time player. If they tried to play him the majority of the time, he'd break down.

 

I'm not saying it would be very likely, it's just possible.

If Floyd got 350 PA and had a 765 OPS, and Murton got the other 350 and had a 795, then the Cubs overall LF production would end up flat, or barely above 2006.

Pie could easily be significantly worse than Pierre next year.

Soriano could conceivably be no better than Jones last year.

SS could be as bad, 2B could be the same.

1B is a mortal lock to be better, but the question is how much, and then, what happens at C and 3B. Both Barrett and Blanco had career years in 2006. If both regress a little and Ramirez misses a little time and/or takes a step back, the lineup could conceivably be worse. And none of those things is an outlandish statement either.

 

I doubt that happens. I think they have all but guaranteed improvement. All I'm saying is depending on how the OF falls out, there's a chance they'd be as bad.

[Jehrico]

According to Jerry Crasnick in today's chat for ESPN, he remarked on the status of the Cubs' negotations with free agent outfielder Cliff Floyd:

 

"I'm hearing that the Cliff Floyd signing will come soon. He has some health issues, but he's a good on base percentage guy and a great clubhouse guy. He should be a nice fit for the Cubs."

 

Floyd's power plummetted in 2006, another injury-plagued year. Cornelius Clifford Floyd, born in Chicago, recently turned 34. He's been connected to the Cubs and Jim Hendry for years.

 

I'm guessing he'd be the part of a left field platoon that faces righties. I don't like the idea. It seems like a great way to stunt Matt Murton's growth and waste a year of cheap service time. Floyd hit .266/.342/.423 against righties in '06. Murton managed a .295/.356/.426 line against them in his first full sesaon. The Big Murt also hit .319/.390/.522 after the break. And he has red hair.

 

If a Floyd signing precedes a Jacque Jones trade, who plays right? Floyd hasn't done it since '02. And when Floyd gets hurt, the Cubs will miss the reliably mediocre Jones. If Soriano goes to right, the Cubs are forced to rush Felix Pie.

 

why is hendry doing this again?

I wouldn't mind seeing Floyd signed and put in a platoon with Jones. Dusty couldn't be trusted with that, as he would bench Murton instead. I don't know about Piniella. His history in tampa wasn't favorable in that regard, but he wasn't near as bad as Dusty in that regard.

 

Why would you platoon Floyd and Jones? They're both LH, with similar splits.

If I did that, I'd be banking on Floyd performing near his 2000-2005 RH splits when he plays, and when Jones is in, I think he'd be a huge upgrade to the bench. That, and if Hendry decides to get it done, I think he'd come to Chicago relatively cheaply (for this years market).

[weis21]

not sold on huff or floyd, i'd love to see baldelli though, not sure how realistic that is....jim has be fearless thus far, let's let some of that "balls to the wall" attitude go towards the trading front jim!

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I don't understand why we're gambling on the 34 year old Floyd coming off of injury to return to his splits against RHP rather than gamble on Murton(who put up very good minor league numbers against primarily RHP) coming close to repeating his .338/.398/.530(~165 PA's) line against RHP from the second half.

[CubinNY]

I don't understand why we're gambling on the 34 year old Floyd coming off of injury to return to his splits against RHP rather than gamble on Murton(who put up very good minor league numbers against primarily RHP) coming close to repeating his .338/.398/.530(~165 PA's) line against RHP from the second half.

 

I agree 100%. Hendry's been in love with Floyd for a while.

 

I fully believe that Hendry will attempt to bring every ex-Marlin whose won a WS to the Cubs.

 

It really is pathetic

[Guest]

I don't understand why we're gambling on the 34 year old Floyd coming off of injury to return to his splits against RHP rather than gamble on Murton(who put up very good minor league numbers against primarily RHP) coming close to repeating his .338/.398/.530(~165 PA's) line against RHP from the second half.

I just want to get a RH platoon partner for Jacque in CF and call the OF done.

[rawaction]

I don't understand why we're gambling on the 34 year old Floyd coming off of injury to return to his splits against RHP rather than gamble on Murton(who put up very good minor league numbers against primarily RHP) coming close to repeating his .338/.398/.530(~165 PA's) line against RHP from the second half.

I just want to get a RH platoon partner for Jacque in CF and call the OF done.

 

Yep. Heck, I'd still put Soriano in CF and get a guy like Craig Wilson to platoon in RF with Jones.