Cliff Floyd?

[CUBZ99]

Floyd for the bench= good.

 

Floyd as a starter= bad.

 

Agreed.

 

A guy in my office said Michael Kay had Lou on his radio show for a half hour Friday. He was talking about getting a young bench. Floyd doesn't seem to fit that bill. But, if he was a bench guy, I'd live with it.

 

He also said they have an offer out to Gary Mathews to play CF.

 

GMj scares me. His 2006 was worthy of a $10 million deal, but his career screams 4th outfielder. He's just so inconsistent. He's been abysmal in some years, but has had some good years as well, only in hitters parks.

 

I agree but Mathews would just cost money while another CF may cost players. If the Cubs have the cash let them spend it and keep their players old and young and then trade the players to aquire the guy they want. IMO, it leaves the resources free and open. Yes, if cash is limited then you do the player trade.

 

I'd rather spend on FA than trade myself. But, Mathews is a guy capable of completely crapping the bed next year. I've heard he might get $10 million. To me, if Drew is getting $14 then you've got to take him over a $10m GMj.

 

Every day of the week, and twice on Sundays, and four times on first Saturdays of the month. I think I'd prefer 100 games of Drew at 15 million than 162 for GMJ at 7 million.

 

I think I would prefer choice C. You would be crazy to pay a guy $15MM for 100 games. If you looked at Drew's last 100 game season you would see he only hit 15 HR and had 42 RBI. Unless you have unlimited resources, that is a waste of money.

 

But I take J.D. Drew for 150+ games at $15MM, over GMJ at $7MM every time.

[Rob]

I am very interested to get Bruce's take on this.

[Southpaw191679666239]

Am I missing something? The Sun-Times article says he'd be an option for the bench. Rotoworld is flipping out about a possible Floyd-Jones-Soriano outfield.

[JeffH]

I suppose he'd probably retire rather than accept a bench job at bench pay, but a guy I wouldn't mind bringing back as an extra outfielder is Jeromy Burnitz.

 

It would be nice to have a few guys capable of getting a late game HR or extra base hit in a pinch hitting role.

[YearofDaCubs]

I suppose he'd probably retire rather than accept a bench job at bench pay, but a guy I wouldn't mind bringing back as an extra outfielder is Jeromy Burnitz.

 

It would be nice to have a few guys capable of getting a late game HR or extra base hit in a pinch hitting role.

Burnitz? No thanks.

[Wheelimus]

Burnitz would almost (key word, almost) be a more attractive "bench" option than Floyd just because he wouldn't be likely to take a ton of at bats from Murton. I could see Matts at bats against righties being scarce with Floyd around.

[RyCubsFan]

I really like Floyd for the bench. He would surely be a much bigger threat as a pinch hitter in the 9th than someone like Bynum or Pagan. He could also DH when we play at an AL team.

 

I don't forsee him starting or platooning with Murton.

 

Here's where I think we are:

 

1b Lee

2B DeRosa

SS Izturis

3B Ramirez

C Barrett

RF Soriano

CF ??

LF Murton

 

Theriot is the first bat off the bench for the IF. He could nab the starting job at 2b or SS with continued excellence.

 

I'm still hopeful we make a run at Drew for CF. Just say no to GMJ. I don't see him repeating what he did last year. If we can't get Drew, I'd try to sign Roberts, or trade for Badelli, as a stopgap for Pie.

[baseball7897]

I really like Floyd for the bench. He would surely be a much bigger threat as a pinch hitter in the 9th than someone like Bynum or Pagan.

 

I don't forsee him starting or platooning with Murton.

 

Here's where I think we are:

 

1b Lee

2B DeRosa

SS Izturis

3B Ramirez

C Barrett

RF Soriano

CF ??

LF Murton

 

Theriot is the first bat off the bench for the IF. He could nab the starting job at 2b or SS with continued excellence.

 

I'm still hopeful we make a run at Drew for CF. Just say no to GMJ. I don't see him repeating what he did last year. If we can't get Drew, I'd try to sign Roberts, or trade for Badelli, as a stopgap for Pie

 

Tampa is looking for a ace pitcher in return for Baldelli. I don't think the Cubs are willing to give up any kind of SP at this time.

[Bruce Miles]

I am very interested to get Bruce's take on this.

 

They like Floyd, but they aren't in "heated talks." If they do sign him, it won't be right away. There is concern about the injury history.

[Rob]

I am very interested to get Bruce's take on this.

 

They like Floyd, but they aren't in "heated talks." If they do sign him, it won't be right away. There is concern about the injury history.

 

Gracias, mi amigo!

[Balsa]

Uh-oh.

 

The Cubs are also in heated talks with New York Mets free agent Cliff Floyd, a longtime Hendry favorite who could platoon with Matt Murton in left. Right fielder Jacque Jones could move to center or left, or be traded.

LINK

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Uh-oh.

 

The Cubs are also in heated talks with New York Mets free agent Cliff Floyd, a longtime Hendry favorite who could platoon with Matt Murton in left. Right fielder Jacque Jones could move to center or left, or be traded.

LINK

 

That's already been quoted in this thread. You're not reading along, are you?

[Balsa]

Admittedly no.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Admittedly no.

 

I appreciate the honesty. :wink:

[Elrhino]

Here's an article from Newsday where Floyd says his first choice is to play for the Cubs, and his doctors have told him that he'll be ready by spring training.

 

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-spmets224986504nov22,0,7419542.story?coll=ny-mets-print

[AAApittsburgh]

What are everyone's thoughts on Ryan Klesko instead of Floyd? Is he available?

[NorthsideAvenger]

Here's an article from Newsday where Floyd says his first choice is to play for the Cubs, and his doctors have told him that he'll be ready by spring training.

 

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-spmets224986504nov22,0,7419542.story?coll=ny-mets-print

 

I could definately live with a one yr deal with Floyd.

[E.J.]

This was buried in one of the Marquis articles today:

 

ESPN[/url]"]The source also said that the Cubs are pursuing free agent outfielder Cliff Floyd, who is expected to decide next week between Chicago and Seattle.

 

 

I think it's a given at this point that Floyd will be on the team next year. He's from Chicago and Hendry has a mancrush on the guy.

 

I'm still wondering what Hendry has up his sleeve because even with a Floyd addition I don't think this team is strong enough to compete for a World Series.

[Soul]

This was buried in one of the Marquis articles today:

 

ESPN[/url]"]The source also said that the Cubs are pursuing free agent outfielder Cliff Floyd, who is expected to decide next week between Chicago and Seattle.

 

 

I think it's a given at this point that Floyd will be on the team next year. He's from Chicago and Hendry has a mancrush on the guy.

 

I'm still wondering what Hendry has up his sleeve because even with a Floyd addition I don't think this team is strong enough to compete for a World Series.

 

I don't think winning the World Series is on Hendry's radar, if you caught him in a moment of honesty. He could save his job with a miracle Wild Card appearance, and I believe that's more along the lines of where his sights are set.

 

Floyd's last year of playing regularly was 2005, where he put up 34 HRs, somewhere in the neighborhood of a .360 OBP in 150 games.

 

I guess the plan would be to use Murton to keep Floyd fresh in LF then. Pie would be the CF, with Soriano in RF. Assuming Hendry didn't also go after some kind of CF option.

[b_wiggy_66]

I still think they end up putting Soriano in CF

[tkenm356]

The Chicago Tribune indicates that it's a "strong possibility" Cliff Floyd will join the Cubs.

 

The A's and Mariners are also showing interest in Floyd. If he joins the Cubs, he'll likely become the left fielder against right-handers, forcing Matt Murton into a platoon role unless Jacque Jones is traded.

[cbbryan]

This was buried in one of the Marquis articles today:

 

ESPN[/url]"]The source also said that the Cubs are pursuing free agent outfielder Cliff Floyd, who is expected to decide next week between Chicago and Seattle.

 

 

I think it's a given at this point that Floyd will be on the team next year. He's from Chicago and Hendry has a mancrush on the guy.

 

I'm still wondering what Hendry has up his sleeve because even with a Floyd addition I don't think this team is strong enough to compete for a World Series.

 

I don't think winning the World Series is on Hendry's radar, if you caught him in a moment of honesty. He could save his job with a miracle Wild Card appearance, and I believe that's more along the lines of where his sights are set.

 

Floyd's last year of playing regularly was 2005, where he put up 34 HRs, somewhere in the neighborhood of a .360 OBP in 150 games.

 

I guess the plan would be to use Murton to keep Floyd fresh in LF then. Pie would be the CF, with Soriano in RF. Assuming Hendry didn't also go after some kind of CF option.

 

Seriously, the offseason spending spree is up to 305.5 Million and he's hoping for a MIRACLE wild card appearance? The Cardinals won 83 games last year and won the WS. It's not just on Hendry's radar, it's the goal of the organization.

[Soul]

This was buried in one of the Marquis articles today:

 

ESPN[/url]"]The source also said that the Cubs are pursuing free agent outfielder Cliff Floyd, who is expected to decide next week between Chicago and Seattle.

 

 

I think it's a given at this point that Floyd will be on the team next year. He's from Chicago and Hendry has a mancrush on the guy.

 

I'm still wondering what Hendry has up his sleeve because even with a Floyd addition I don't think this team is strong enough to compete for a World Series.

 

I don't think winning the World Series is on Hendry's radar, if you caught him in a moment of honesty. He could save his job with a miracle Wild Card appearance, and I believe that's more along the lines of where his sights are set.

 

Floyd's last year of playing regularly was 2005, where he put up 34 HRs, somewhere in the neighborhood of a .360 OBP in 150 games.

 

I guess the plan would be to use Murton to keep Floyd fresh in LF then. Pie would be the CF, with Soriano in RF. Assuming Hendry didn't also go after some kind of CF option.

 

Seriously, the offseason spending spree is up to 305.5 Million and he's hoping for a MIRACLE wild card appearance? The Cardinals won 83 games last year and won the WS. It's not just on Hendry's radar, it's the goal of the organization.

 

I find that difficult to believe frankly. This team isn't close to a World Series team. I chose not to believe Hendry doesn't know this, but rather that he is finally able to spend like the Cubs were able to all along, and he's just trying to save his job to fight further in the coming years.

 

What the Cardinals did last year was a gross aberration. Rarely if ever been done before, and there's no reason to think it's going to be happening regularly. I don't know of anyone out there who is seriously expecting to win World Series rings with .500 ballclubs as a matter of course.

[UMFan83]

This was buried in one of the Marquis articles today:

 

ESPN[/url]"]The source also said that the Cubs are pursuing free agent outfielder Cliff Floyd, who is expected to decide next week between Chicago and Seattle.

 

 

I think it's a given at this point that Floyd will be on the team next year. He's from Chicago and Hendry has a mancrush on the guy.

 

I'm still wondering what Hendry has up his sleeve because even with a Floyd addition I don't think this team is strong enough to compete for a World Series.

 

I don't think winning the World Series is on Hendry's radar, if you caught him in a moment of honesty. He could save his job with a miracle Wild Card appearance, and I believe that's more along the lines of where his sights are set.

 

Floyd's last year of playing regularly was 2005, where he put up 34 HRs, somewhere in the neighborhood of a .360 OBP in 150 games.

 

I guess the plan would be to use Murton to keep Floyd fresh in LF then. Pie would be the CF, with Soriano in RF. Assuming Hendry didn't also go after some kind of CF option.

 

Seriously, the offseason spending spree is up to 305.5 Million and he's hoping for a MIRACLE wild card appearance? The Cardinals won 83 games last year and won the WS. It's not just on Hendry's radar, it's the goal of the organization.

 

I find that difficult to believe frankly. This team isn't close to a World Series team. I chose not to believe Hendry doesn't know this, but rather that he is finally able to spend like the Cubs were able to all along, and he's just trying to save his job to fight further in the coming years.

 

What the Cardinals did last year was a gross aberration. Rarely if ever been done before, and there's no reason to think it's going to be happening regularly. I don't know of anyone out there who is seriously expecting to win World Series rings with .500 ballclubs as a matter of course.

 

Yes but I don't think Hendry is aiming for a Wild Card appearence. His goal is to build a WS team, but making sure its good enough to at least make a Wild Card. Unfortunately hes failed IMO.

[cbbryan]

This was buried in one of the Marquis articles today:

 

ESPN[/url]"]The source also said that the Cubs are pursuing free agent outfielder Cliff Floyd, who is expected to decide next week between Chicago and Seattle.

 

 

I think it's a given at this point that Floyd will be on the team next year. He's from Chicago and Hendry has a mancrush on the guy.

 

I'm still wondering what Hendry has up his sleeve because even with a Floyd addition I don't think this team is strong enough to compete for a World Series.

 

I don't think winning the World Series is on Hendry's radar, if you caught him in a moment of honesty. He could save his job with a miracle Wild Card appearance, and I believe that's more along the lines of where his sights are set.

 

Floyd's last year of playing regularly was 2005, where he put up 34 HRs, somewhere in the neighborhood of a .360 OBP in 150 games.

 

I guess the plan would be to use Murton to keep Floyd fresh in LF then. Pie would be the CF, with Soriano in RF. Assuming Hendry didn't also go after some kind of CF option.

 

Seriously, the offseason spending spree is up to 305.5 Million and he's hoping for a MIRACLE wild card appearance? The Cardinals won 83 games last year and won the WS. It's not just on Hendry's radar, it's the goal of the organization.

 

I find that difficult to believe frankly. This team isn't close to a World Series team. I chose not to believe Hendry doesn't know this, but rather that he is finally able to spend like the Cubs were able to all along, and he's just trying to save his job to fight further in the coming years.

 

What the Cardinals did last year was a gross aberration. Rarely if ever been done before, and there's no reason to think it's going to be happening regularly. I don't know of anyone out there who is seriously expecting to win World Series rings with .500 ballclubs as a matter of course.

 

I'm not trying to say that it happens every year, but the fact of the matter is that he's not spending that much money believing the Cubs have no chance.

 

2006 WS - STL ( 83 ) Detroit ( 95 WC)

2005 WS - CHW ( 98 ) Hou ( 88 WC)

2004 WS - Boston ( 98 WC) STL ( 105 )

2003 WS - FLA ( 91 WC ) NYY ( 101 )

2002 WS - ANA ( 99 WC ) SFG ( 95 WC )

2001 WS - ARI ( 92 ) NYY ( 95 )

2000 WS - NYY ( 87 ) NYM ( 94 WC )

 

This is a playoff team in the NL Central. The division winners the last few years have won 83, 100, 105, 88, 97, 93, and 95.

 

Also, remember that the Central has produced the WC in a majority of those years.

 

I think it's very possible that the Cubs will make the playoffs and make a WS appearance. I don't know that it's likely, but this team is capable no doubt.