Guillen mad at Mariotti

[RonCey]

If Scott Skiles or Lovie Smith called any Chicago journalist a "f#cking f#g" yesterday, regardless of the context, he would already have been suspended by the team and/or the league, and possibly fired. It's as simple as that.

[baseball7897]

Who the hell is Mariotti??

[Derwood]

While I agree that Guillen is trash, I won't go so far as to say that he represents even a sliver of Sox fans. It's just as easy for us to say all Sox fans are classless goons and blue collar thugs as it is for them to say that we're all yuppy pretty boys who go to Wrigley for the beer and to talk on our cell phones. It's simply not true. In fact, you know where most Sox fans live? Not the South Side. Most live in the Western and Southwestern Suburbs.

[SouthSideRyan]

I'm surrounded by Sox fans. Homophobia is a pretty common theme.

 

And a quibble with ndistops, Mariotti is actually a decent writer skill wise. He just chooses to be inflammatory because it's what gets/got him famous. There's a reason that once a month or so you'll get people dragging over a Mariotti article and saying they feel dirty by saying it's good. When he actually puts effort into a subject and does his research, he's a pretty good writer. But good writing doesn't sell papers.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

How did this get to 6 pages? It should be the shortest thread ever.

 

Post 1: Explanation of what happened

 

Post 2: Ozzie is an ignorant tool

 

 

Maybe add on a few ditto posts for good measure.

[Mark_R]

I have revised my Roger Clemens wish to now include Ozzie Guillen. Extra points for hitting him in the mouth so he can't talk again.

[CP_414]

Can anyone find a list of Ozzie-related incidents? Off the top of my head I can remember:

 

This incident

Putting Riskie in last night to hit a Cardinals batter

Tracy incident a week ago

Profanity filled tirade against Carlos Lee when he left the Sox

Profanity filled tirade against Magglio when he left the Sox

Trashing the Cubs and Wrigley Field

Saying Jason Grimsley should be shot

In New York last season, Guillen referred to someone as a homosexual and a child molester.

 

What else...?

 

Was John Rocker suspended for his SI comments? If so, Ozzie should also be punished for the culmination of his actions.

[jaydee]

What a pathetic excuse for a human being.

[Derwood]

at least Guillen earned his job by being an awesome baseball player

[Roast]

And, its funny, I had an argument with a sox fan after the Tracey incident who told me that "guillen is a breath of fresh air, he's what baseball needs."

 

I asked "why? Because he's winning"

 

His reply...

 

"OF COURSE, WINNING IS EVERYTHING, DONT YOU KNOW THAT"

 

 

And sadly, he wasnt being sarcastic. YOu know, I dont give a flying you know what about the sox, they have nothing to do w/ the cubs. But its people like THAT who annoy me, and make me wonder why sox fans are so damn annoying.

[Bergy92]

Can anyone find a list of Ozzie-related incidents? Off the top of my head I can remember:

 

This incident

Putting Riskie in last night to hit a Cardinals batter

Tracy incident a week ago

Profanity filled tirade against Carlos Lee when he left the Sox

Profanity filled tirade against Magglio when he left the Sox

Trashing the Cubs and Wrigley Field

Saying Jason Grimsley should be shot

In New York last season, Guillen referred to someone as a homosexual and a child molester.

 

What else...?

 

Was John Rocker suspended for his SI comments? If so, Ozzie should also be punished for the culmination of his actions.

 

can you imagine if David Stern were the commissioner of baseball and not basketball? If Cuban gets fined $250,000 for yelling at a ref, can you imagine what the words Guillen has used would bring - also his blatant approach at hitting guys...

[RationalSoxFan]

I certainly hope that no one finds the majority of Sox fans to be Ozzie-esque. I love the team and the players, but certainly not the manager. At times, he's tolerable, but he is a walking controversy.

 

I like to think he'll learn from this and stop talking, but I doubt it.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I certainly hope that no one finds the majority of Sox fans to be Ozzie-esque. I love the team and the players, but certainly not the manager. At times, he's tolerable, but he is a walking controversy.

 

I like to think he'll learn from this and stop talking, but I doubt it.

 

I think just the opposite will happen. Guillen has shown that he doesn't think he's done anything wrong. In fact, I fully expect him to continue to spew ridiculous things at an alarming pace. I don't think he lacks the humility or the intellect to do otherwise.

[Brian]

"Jay, I think I made this guy a lot of money and he's famous. If not for Ozzie Guillen, no one would have heard of him," Guillen said. "If I hurt anybody with what I called him, I apologize."

 

ummm Ozzie, Jay is on a fairly popular (I think) national sports show.

[CubsBullsBears]

Can anyone find a list of Ozzie-related incidents? Off the top of my head I can remember:

 

This incident

Putting Riskie in last night to hit a Cardinals batter

Tracy incident a week ago

Profanity filled tirade against Carlos Lee when he left the Sox

Profanity filled tirade against Magglio when he left the Sox

Trashing the Cubs and Wrigley Field

Saying Jason Grimsley should be shot

In New York last season, Guillen referred to someone as a homosexual and a child molester.

 

What else...?

 

Was John Rocker suspended for his SI comments? If so, Ozzie should also be punished for the culmination of his actions.

Complaining that he had to park his car at McDonalds for the Cubs-Sox series at Wrigley in 2004, calling Big Frank a bad influence, taking shots at the Twins and Indians. And yes, Rocker got a 2 week suspension.

[CubsBullsBears]

I'm surrounded by Sox fans. Homophobia is a pretty common theme.

 

And a quibble with ndistops, Mariotti is actually a decent writer skill wise. He just chooses to be inflammatory because it's what gets/got him famous. There's a reason that once a month or so you'll get people dragging over a Mariotti article and saying they feel dirty by saying it's good. When he actually puts effort into a subject and does his research, he's a pretty good writer. But good writing doesn't sell papers.

Excatly, which is why Mariotti is such a good writer, and why I want to work with the guy.

[Warpticon]

Yeah, I just found out about this. I swear, it's like rooting for cancer against AIDS here.

[SouthSideRyan]

This was the lead story on channel 5 news tonight,(Which is pretty ridiculous) but in Guillen's apology he used air quotes when talking about what he said offending somebody. He just doesn't get it.

[Andy]

"Jay, I think I made this guy a lot of money and he's famous. If not for Ozzie Guillen, no one would have heard of him," Guillen said. "If I hurt anybody with what I called him, I apologize."

 

ummm Ozzie, Jay is on a fairly popular (I think) national sports show.

And was on it before Ozzie ever became manager of the Sox.

[Roast]

I certainly hope that no one finds the majority of Sox fans to be Ozzie-esque. I love the team and the players, but certainly not the manager. At times, he's tolerable, but he is a walking controversy.

 

I like to think he'll learn from this and stop talking, but I doubt it.

 

Well Its good to see that some arent. But most of the ones I know are, unfortunatley. But then again, most of the ones i know are in high school and couldnt tell you what OBP, OPS, or WHIP is. Its probably just highschool immaturity.

[ConstableRabbit]

From ESPN.com

 

Before writing the column, Couch asked Guillen for an explanation. Guillen defended his use of the term "[expletive]" by saying this about homosexuals and the use of the word in question: "I don't have anything against those people. In my country, you call someone something like that and it is not the same as it is in this country.''

 

1. This isn't Venezuela - it's America. You've lived here long enough to understand what our words mean.

 

2. I didn't realize hateful slurs had different meanings in different regions.

 

Guillen also told Couch that he has gay friends, attends WNBA games, went to a Madonna concert and plans to go to the Gay Games in Chicago.

 

I know one of the WNBA's biggest stars, Swoopes, is openly gay, but is that really something to list to prove you're not homophobic - women's basketball?

 

Madonna?

[TruffleShuffle]

"I don't have anything against those people. In my country, you call someone something like that and it is not the same as it is in this country."

 

I call B.S. Ozzie was signed by the Padres at age 16. Even if you assume he played 2 years in a summer league in Venezuela, he still came to the U.S. at age 18. He's now 42, meaning that he's spent more than half his life, and his entire adult life, in the U.S. for at least several months, if not the entire year. "In my country" is a legitimate excuse if you hopped off the boat last year. He's been in this country long enough to know that the word he used is offensive to some people.

Guillen also told Couch that he has gay friends, attends WNBA games, went to a Madonna concert and plans to go to the Gay Games in Chicago.

He's just digging himself deeper, isn't he.

 

"COME ON JOO GUYS! AN I LUH WILL AN GRACE TOO! ERI MACORMA'S CRAZY ANTIQUES ARE BO ISTERIKAL AN ARTWARMING!"

[Derwood]

i'm sure they'll make him grand marshall at the gay games :roll:

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

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