ARod.....

[Careless]

$25.68 million per for the next 5 years? no way. no way that happens.

 

The Rangers picked up ~$50 million, depending on what part of his salary that applied to, and how much the Yanks would be willing to pick up of the remainder, it should be discussed.

 

Although I'd remain on the sideline if it's the full contract (throw Pierre, Jones, Neifi, Rusch, Hendry and Baker together and I might talk).

 

I wouldn't care if it was the full contract. He's the 2nd best offensive player in baseball.

 

Behind who? Manny? And no I don't think Pujols is the best offensive player in MLB, I think ARod/Manny are just as good, if not better, and they play in a league where pitchers are more unpredictable then the NL.

You are wrong. There is nothing you can point to to even make someone unfamiliar with the league say "eh, maybe he's got a point"

It's not close. The difference in OPS between pujols and the #4 guy is the same as the difference between #4 and #60.

Pujols has been consistently top 3 since he started playing while being much younger than all the people above him. this year he's simply crushing everyone.

edit: I should point out that ARod and manny aren't in that top 4, or even close (top 20)

[Rusch33]

Give them Prior and Aramis if thats what it takes.

[NorthsideAvenger]

$25.68 million per for the next 5 years? no way. no way that happens.

 

The Rangers picked up ~$50 million, depending on what part of his salary that applied to, and how much the Yanks would be willing to pick up of the remainder, it should be discussed.

 

Although I'd remain on the sideline if it's the full contract (throw Pierre, Jones, Neifi, Rusch, Hendry and Baker together and I might talk).

 

I wouldn't care if it was the full contract. He's the 2nd best offensive player in baseball.

 

Behind who? Manny? And no I don't think Pujols is the best offensive player in MLB, I think ARod/Manny are just as good, if not better, and they play in a league where pitchers are more unpredictable then the NL.

You are wrong. There is nothing you can point to to even make someone unfamiliar with the league say "eh, maybe he's got a point"

It's not close. The difference in OPS between pujols and the #4 guy is the same as the difference between #4 and #60.

Pujols has been consistently top 3 since he started playing while being much younger than all the people above him. this year he's simply crushing everyone.

edit: I should point out that ARod and manny aren't in that top 4, or even close (top 20)

 

I'd still take ARod or Manny over Pujols, any day of the week. Arod because he is a BETTER player, slightly worse hitter (still one of the game's best), and in his prime...Manny Ramirez simply because he is MUCH more feared then Pujols. I would RATHER pitch to Pujols, then Ramirez.

[Wheelimus]

Well, for starters, you talk to Mad Dog and see if he (still?) is against playing for the freaking Yankees and going to the playoffs. Just sell it as "we can't guarantee we'll be as competitive as you deserve, and this could change the Cubs franchise forever. You'd be doing us a big favor"

 

Maddux as the start of the package if he agrees. If not, go to Kerry Wood and give the same speech. You gotta try.

 

Beyond one of those guys (and if they refuse, you have to decide if you can offer a good starter who can't say no. Marshall most likely.) they're going to want an offensive player back. If we're building for next year, we need to give away as little of what we already have offensively. So, crazy thought. Spin Rich Hill to the Dodgers for Mueller or Garciaparra. Send him to the Yankees in this package.

 

So a quality starter, a bat to replace what they're losing, and at this point you probably start including prospects.

 

Think it has a snowballs chance in hell?

[reggiemiller rules]

$25.68 million per for the next 5 years? no way. no way that happens.

 

The Rangers picked up ~$50 million, depending on what part of his salary that applied to, and how much the Yanks would be willing to pick up of the remainder, it should be discussed.

 

Although I'd remain on the sideline if it's the full contract (throw Pierre, Jones, Neifi, Rusch, Hendry and Baker together and I might talk).

 

I wouldn't care if it was the full contract. He's the 2nd best offensive player in baseball.

 

Behind who? Manny? And no I don't think Pujols is the best offensive player in MLB, I think ARod/Manny are just as good, if not better, and they play in a league where pitchers are more unpredictable then the NL.

You are wrong. There is nothing you can point to to even make someone unfamiliar with the league say "eh, maybe he's got a point"

It's not close. The difference in OPS between pujols and the #4 guy is the same as the difference between #4 and #60.

Pujols has been consistently top 3 since he started playing while being much younger than all the people above him. this year he's simply crushing everyone.

edit: I should point out that ARod and manny aren't in that top 4, or even close (top 20)

 

I'd still take ARod or Manny over Pujols, any day of the week. Arod because he is a BETTER player, slightly worse hitter (still one of the game's best), and in his prime...Manny Ramirez simply because he is MUCH more feared then Pujols. I would RATHER pitch to Pujols, then Ramirez.

 

I seriously doubt that you would find very many pitchers at all that would rather face Manny then Pujols, and there is no way he is MUCH more feared then Albert. Manny in his prime was an amazing hitter, but we arent even sure if Albert is in his prime or not yet. So he could get even better then he already is and is showing that so far this season.

[Mizzou]

It's incredibly wide spread. Everybody hates him here.

Seriously? Wow. That's pretty silly considering that he's one of the best hitters in all of baseball. Stupid Yankee fans.

 

Is there any serious talk of really trading him?

Edited May 24, 2006 by Mizzou

[SouthSideRyan]

Manny is just a horrendous fielder as well. There's no question Pujols > Manny

[UMFan83]

The Cubs won't get him because that would make me happy. And they haven't made me happy since Mid-September 2004.

[TB_11]

It's incredibly wide spread. Everybody hates him here.

Seriously? Wow. That's pretty silly considering that he's one of the best hitters in all of baseball. Stupid Yankee fans.

 

Is there any serious talk of really trading him?

 

There's no serious talk of trading him, but I'll second the opinion that he's far from the most popular Yankee. I caught the Mets/Yankees game on Saturday, and while the fans stayed pretty intense throughout the entire game, the Yankees fans support for ARod was lukewarm at best.

[Evers2Tinker2Chance]

As much as I thought i would never Trade either of them I would do Prior and Aram for Arod. i would think that would be pretty close to even If we have to send another prosepct send Dope.

[soccer10k]

Even if we got ARod he would either get hurt or he would start to hit .250 and his power would leave him.

[Evers2Tinker2Chance]

Manny is just a horrendous fielder as well. There's no question Pujols > Manny

 

 

A couple of years ago it was Manny, Now Its definaly Albert. Better all around player, in the box, on the feild, on the bases, and dosnt cause a lot of unnecassary drama

[NorthsideAvenger]

Manny is just a horrendous fielder as well. There's no question Pujols > Manny

 

We agree to disagree.

 

But, I ACTUALLY like Manny as a player over Pujols. I can't say why...I don't describe it....Manny is maybe the ONLY hitter in baseball that I might not challenge as a hitter. I'd still pitch to Pujols, carefully, but I still pitch to him...and even at 34 yrs old, I still view Manny Ramirez as the best PURE hitter/power in the game. Mainly because Manny is only 1 yr old then Pujols. :wink:

[CubbieRich]

But you have to trade $$$. The Yanks need pitching, a LH hitting OF and of course, a 3rd baseman. How about Wood, ARam, Walker and Jones for ARod.

 

We bring up Scott Moore for 3rd, move Cedeno to 2nd and call up Felix for the OF.

[RynoRules]

Hey, you've sold me. I'm basing this on all of my Yankee-lovin' friends who can't shut up about how much they hate A-Rod because he "never comes through when it counts." If it's widespread enough, hell, I wish Hendry wasn't dopey enough to not at least take a look.

 

It's incredibly wide spread. Everybody hates him here.

 

Having spent the majority of my childhood in NY, I can say that Yankees fans are not known for their rationality.

[Scott G. F.]

I thought this:

 

Jones

Am Ram

Pitching prospect

[Sammy Sofa]

Not nearly enough. Honestly, that's almost insulting given the player we're talking about here. The lone prospect you're offering up would pretty much have to be Marshall, and there's no way they want him without Wood or Prior coming along, too. Without a starter, you'd probably have to package Marshall, Hill and Guzman, and maybe even Ryu, too. Or hell, with the Yanks bullpen troubles, maybe Williamson.

 

I highly doubt the Yankees are even close to shopping A-Rod, but that's not say they wouldn't trade if somebody offered them the right deal.

[ManCrushOnNomar]

What did the Yankees give up for him?

 

Wasn't it Soriano and spare parts? No reason we can't do a deal like that.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

What did the Yankees give up for him?

 

Wasn't it Soriano and spare parts? No reason we can't do a deal like that.

 

That was also back when Soriano was really, really overvalued

[USSoccer]

I'm telling you guys, they'd jump at a deal like Prior/Moore/Jones for ARod.

[CubinNY]

I'm telling you guys, they'd jump at a deal like Prior/Moore/Jones for ARod.

 

I don't know if they'd jump, but I think they would seriously consider it.

 

Their pitching is in disaray, aside from Mariano and Farns their bullpen is terrible, and Matsui is out for the year.

 

Prior could be an Ace for them for years to come.

 

I wouldn't trade Prior though. I would try and trade Wood instead. I think he would wave the NTC for a big payday and a couple of years of guarenteed money.

[rocket]

i'd do prior/jones/prospect for arod + cash.

[Sammy Sofa]

I refuse to let this die.

 

Wood/Aramis/Jones and a reliever.

 

Aramis would thrive in a lineup like what the Yankees have. Surround him with great hitters and he'll get all the pitches he wants to blast. I wish the Pirates had some trade needs we could fill, because Craig Wilson would be perfect to slide into RF. I'd prefer to hold off on Pie until next year.

[cubs121]

The Cubs won't get him.

 

Why?

 

They're the Cubs.

 

If we would get him, we'd vastly overpay. If we didn't vastly overpay and actually got him for a decent price, he'd get "Mark Prior and Kerry Wood" syndrome and spend 4 months every year on the DL.

 

Why?

 

Because they're the Cubs.

lol

[Andy]

I refuse to let this die.

 

Wood/Aramis/Jones and a reliever.

 

Aramis would thrive in a lineup like what the Yankees have. Surround him with great hitters and he'll get all the pitches he wants to blast. I wish the Pirates had some trade needs we could fill, because Craig Wilson would be perfect to slide into RF. I'd prefer to hold off on Pie until next year.

In theory, it'd be a good offer, but another team would trump it if ARod was on the block. If he ever gets traded, the team that gets him will vastly overpay.