White Sox (Castillo) vs Cubs (Imanaga): 08/17/26, 7:05 PM

[CubUgly]

6 hours ago, Tangled Up in Plaid said:

damn, Meghan hitting King Tuck with the jab

I'm honestly o.k. with it - dude is getting paid a LOT of $$ - you are open to criticism when you are getting paid to do what Pete is but in reality, are producing less than Conforto. 

[bjam12]

36 minutes ago, bjam12 said:

Anyone have a link to the White Sox call (radio or TV) of the PCA walk-off? 

Actually I found one. 

 

[BKHoo]

8 hours ago, UMFan83 said:

Ok it was worth sitting through some crappy moments and then some tense moments. 

1 win in the next 2 games secures us the Crosstown Cup for another season

I’m not from Chicago - how does the Cup work? Wouldn’t it be 3-3? 

[Old Style]

Lol why did they pitch to PCA in the 10th? 

[UMFan83]

1 hour ago, BKHoo said:

I’m not from Chicago - how does the Cup work? Wouldn’t it be 3-3? 

Yeah, the current owner of the trophy retains the Cup in the event of a tie. I mostly joke when I bring up the Crosstown Cup because I haven’t seen anyone talk about it or give it out on the field for a few years. But technically the Cubs have held it since 2023

[The_Achiever]

Suck my dick, White Sox!  

[CubinNY]

11 hours ago, Derwood said:

"Doesn't chase wins"

I'm glad the Cubs won, but not just Counsel, it seems like a lot of managers don't recognize the obvious signs a pitcher is gassed. Two games in a row now, he's left the starter in an inning too long. 

[squally1313]

5 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

I'm glad the Cubs won, but not just Counsel, it seems like a lot of managers don't recognize the obvious signs a pitcher is gassed. Two games in a row now, he's left the starter in an inning too long. 

This debate usually comes up in the middle innings and it seems like the pieces that are missed are A. Middle relievers are generally not good at pitching, and B. It’s really hard to get 4+ innings out of your bullpen every night. Shota was really good tonight, and in his last inning he had a walk, a K, and two weak fly balls. I don’t know if it would have been wise to start the sequence of trusted relievers an inning earlier and be left with…Aaron Civale or whatever in the tenth. 

[Stratos]

2 hours ago, CubUgly said:

I'm honestly o.k. with it - dude is getting paid a LOT of $$ - you are open to criticism when you are getting paid to do what Pete is but in reality, are producing less than Conforto. 

Well when you also lollygag after dropping a ball with 2 guys on base you also deserve all the heat.

[Stratos]

1 hour ago, CubinNY said:

I'm glad the Cubs won, but not just Counsel, it seems like a lot of managers don't recognize the obvious signs a pitcher is gassed. Two games in a row now, he's left the starter in an inning too long. 

I really hope it's because he feels he needs to get more length out of his SP to save the pen.  Because yeah Shota was clearly gassed.

But it makes me PO'd Peterson comes out of the pen for only an inning.  Like WTF.  

[UMFan83]

I think its funny that Busch hit a fly ball that only would have been a HR in Houston (shortest LF porch) and another that only would have been a HR at Yankee Stadium (shortest RF porch)

[PeanutPunch33]

What's lost in all the excitement is how ass Zeferjahn has been.  I still like him a lot as a reliever and think he will be fine... but it's hard to think he's still in the "circle of trust" at the moment.  I'm not sure what's plaguing him but he has to figure it out and quick.  

[Rcal10]

1 hour ago, CubinNY said:

I'm glad the Cubs won, but not just Counsel, it seems like a lot of managers don't recognize the obvious signs a pitcher is gassed. Two games in a row now, he's left the starter in an inning too long. 

 

23 minutes ago, Stratos said:

I really hope it's because he feels he needs to get more length out of his SP to save the pen.  Because yeah Shota was clearly gassed.

 

I was kind of surprised he didn’t have anyone warming up, but after the lead off walk Shota had an easy inning. Fly out, K, and pop out. There was a lot of complaints about Shota this entire game and the fact is he pitched very well. He left one pitch in the zone for Grichik, and walked a couple of guys. But he stuck out 10 batters and gave up only 3 hits. Cubs can’t keep taking pitchers out after 5 innings. They need length. And Shota handled it well.!

[Rcal10]

29 minutes ago, Stratos said:

But it makes me PO'd Peterson comes out of the pen for only an inning.  Like WTF.  

Did you really want him to pitch the 10th. I thought the very obvious move was Webb in the 10th. Are you just looking for something to bitch about with CC. Because this makes no sense. Has he left Peterson in people would have rightfully criticized him. 

[javy knows my name]

10 hours ago, Tangled Up in Plaid said:

damn, Meghan hitting King Tuck with the jab

She came in from the parking lot with a chair

[Stratos]

8 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

 

I was kind of surprised he didn’t have anyone warming up, but after the lead off walk Shota had an easy inning. Fly out, K, and pop out. There was a lot of complaints about Shota this entire game and the fact is he pitched very well. He left one pitch in the zone for Grichik, and walked a couple of guys. But he stuck out 10 batters and gave up only 3 hits. Cubs can’t keep taking pitchers out after 5 innings. They need length. And Shota handled it well.!

I don't understand how they want length from their SP but then put Peterson in the pen and let him only throw 1.1 innings while Imanaga rots on the vine.  And why TF would they take Peterson out of the rotation for Cabrera?

[Stratos]

17 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

Did you really want him to pitch the 10th. I thought the very obvious move was Webb in the 10th. Are you just looking for something to bitch about with CC. Because this makes no sense. Has he left Peterson in people would have rightfully criticized him. 

I'm not criticizing the decision for the 10th specially.  I'm just wondering how you let a SP who looks gassed stay in the game but then play matchups with another SP now in the pen who only throws 22 pitches.  Heck i thought Peterson was still in the rotation and they were using Cabrera to give starters an extra day off rest.

Maybe there's an explanation?  Maybe Peterson will start in a few days?  I don't know.  There's usually a good explanation when CC does something.

[Rcal10]

12 minutes ago, Stratos said:

I don't understand how they want length from their SP but then put Peterson in the pen and let him only throw 1.1 innings while Imanaga rots on the vine.  And why TF would they take Peterson out of the rotation for Cabrera?

The plan was obviously Rolison, Zeferjahn then Webb to close it out. Peterson was never in the plan to pitch in that game. He pitched because the original plan didn’t work. So he finished the 8th and pitched the 9th. Nothing wrong with that. It would have been wrong to pitch him in the 10th.

As for him out of the rotation for Cabrera, I can’t argue with you about that. Cabrera has been very bad. 

[Rcal10]

6 minutes ago, Stratos said:

I'm not criticizing the decision for the 10th specially.  I'm just wondering how you let a SP who looks gassed stay in the game but then play matchups with another SP now in the pen who only throws 22 pitches.  Heck i thought Peterson was still in the rotation and they were using Cabrera to give starters an extra day off rest.

Maybe there's an explanation?  Maybe Peterson will start in a few days?  I don't know.  There's usually a good explanation when CC does something.

Peterson was never part of a plan to pitch that game. He did so because Zeferjahn struggled. So that is why he finished the 8th and pitched the 9th. 
As for Shota, what signs were there that he was gassed? After the homer with no outs in the 4th he retired the side in order, with 2 k’s. Then in the 5th he walked one guy but retired the other 3, with another k. He was at around 84 pitches after 5. He was not hit hard in either the 4th (after the homer) or the 5th. What did you see that suggested he was gassed and Craig should have taken him out?

I admit, I was surprised no one was warming up, but I wasn’t surprised he started the 6th. I did not see signs of him losing it. 

[squally1313]

We're just accepting the premise that he 'looked gassed'? Two Ks in the 5th, another K in the 6th with two weak fly outs? Munetaka hit the ball hard in the 5th but is that just going be an automatic trigger anytime past the 4th inning? We need to get 27 outs. 

[bukie]

Through 5, Imanaga had given up 2 hits, had 9 strikeouts, and had only thrown 81 pitches. Anyone saying he "looked gassed" was clearly working with revisionist history at best and is full of complete nonsense at worst.

[bukie]

Pete notched his second consecutive 30-30 season last night against the White Sox, who have never had a 30-30 player in their 126 year franchise history.

[Outshined_One]

Cripes, people, this team won last night.  Knock it off.

[17 Seconds]

1 minute ago, bukie said:

Pete notched his second consecutive 30-30 season last night against the White Sox, who have never had a 30-30 player in their 126 year franchise history.

he's on pace for close to 40-40. it wouldn't surprise me to see him do it, he is magical right now

[We Got The Whole 9]

2 hours ago, PeanutPunch33 said:

What's lost in all the excitement is how ass Zeferjahn has been.  I still like him a lot as a reliever and think he will be fine... but it's hard to think he's still in the "circle of trust" at the moment.  I'm not sure what's plaguing him but he has to figure it out and quick.  

It looked like he hit the exact spot he was asked to on the HR yesterday and Benintendi was just sitting on it. Also the walk to Murakami was mostly by design. The Cubs did not like throwing him strikes yesterday.