Cubs (Wicks) vs Cardinals (Liberatore): 5/31/26, 6:20pm

[UMFan83]

Just now, chibears55 said:

Funny theyve been going shirtless at WF bleachers for years

Yeah the difference is i think its a designated section where the fans are expected to chant throughout the game and act rowdy while not wearing shirts. 

Its stupid because it’s manufactured and not organic and because the Cardinals are doing it but not the worst thing in the world to have more enthusiastic crowds

[Outshined_One]

6 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

Its stupid because it’s manufactured and not organic and because the Cardinals are doing it but not the worst thing in the world to have more enthusiastic crowds

Don't forget, it's also populated with the sort of people who are mad at political correctness because they can't drop n-bombs in public any more.

[NorthsideAvenger]

Craig has to make the tough decision on Swanson now. For me, it's time to give Swanson's ab's to Ramirez and Nico moves over to SS. I do not care if defense takes a step back, the Cubs need to remove the rally killer from the starting lineup. 

[Wilson A2000]

18 minutes ago, NorthsideAvenger said:

Craig has to make the tough decision on Swanson now. For me, it's time to give Swanson's ab's to Ramirez and Nico moves over to SS. I do not care if defense takes a step back, the Cubs need to remove the rally killer from the starting lineup. 

He needs a phantom DL stint once Shaw is ready

[UMFan83]

1 hour ago, Rcal10 said:

His chance of scoring was less than 5%. he was not being sent. But maybe they should have pinch hit for Dansby. 

Yes this was more just an excuse to complain about Dansby.  As soon as I saw him held up at 3rd and realized Dansby was up, I immediately lost hope that we'd get the run home.

[Irrelevant Dude]

I don't know if this is a dead ass team, but it certainly is a boring ass team.  Fits Jed's personality perfectly.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

this 25 minute Javy Baez highlight reel on youtube is a great palate cleanser after this turd of a game

https://youtu.be/TXkEE9Tn5Hs?si=hnP8BMW7bLiXjfDI

 

[NorthsideAvenger]

1 hour ago, Wilson A2000 said:

He needs a phantom DL stint once Shaw is ready

Shaw is weeks away and rally killer needs to be out of the lineup now. 

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

2 minutes ago, NorthsideAvenger said:

Shaw is weeks away and rally killer needs to be out of the lineup now. 

weeks away? I'm pretty sure Counsell said he's about to go on a short rehab assignment. Did I miss something?

[NorthsideAvenger]

15 minutes ago, Tangled Up in Plaid said:

weeks away? I'm pretty sure Counsell said he's about to go on a short rehab assignment. Did I miss something?

I just saw that Shaw is supposed to start a rehab on Tuesday. AI told me he would be back by mid-June. I hope they do not rush him back. 

 

[soccer10k]

I wisely decided to not watch this game. Glad we were able to win yesterday so we didn't have to rely on Wicks to prevent a sweep.

[Geographyhater8888]

9 hours ago, UMFan83 said:

I hate watching all this elite defense get wasted in these lifeless losses. Feels like it’s somehow gotten even better during this current 5-16 stretch

Jed didn’t commit $430 million to PCA, Nico and Swanson for their bats. 

Edited yesterday at 11:34 AM by Geographyhater8888

[Cubs420psd]

10 hours ago, Outshined_One said:

Don't forget, it's also populated with the sort of people who are mad at political correctness because they can't drop n-bombs in public any more.

Its Missouri, they drop it anyway.

[Cubs420psd]

Lol Jordan Wicks.

Please go away, you bust out 

[Cubs420psd]

Jed Hoyer is just so bad at his job, he tricked me into giving him some roses after last year's team when I trashed him for years, but nah.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 03:00 PM by Cubs420psd

[Geographyhater8888]

12 minutes ago, Cubs420psd said:

Jed Hoyer is just so bad at his job, he tricked me into giving him some roses after last year's team when I trashed him for years but nah.

 

 

 

 

 

It took Kyle Tucker and career years from PCA, Nico, Suzuki and Busch to hit that 92 win mark.

[Cubs420psd]

8 minutes ago, Geographyhater8888 said:

It took Kyle Tucker and career years from PCA, Nico, Suzuki and Busch to hit that 92 win mark.

Yep.

 

Hence why I feel stupid actually thinking he was decent at his job, even if it was for a short time.

But nah, not falling for Theo's nepo baby again.

 

Edited yesterday at 01:12 PM by Cubs420psd

[17 Seconds]

12 minutes ago, Geographyhater8888 said:

It took Kyle Tucker and career years from PCA, Nico, Suzuki and Busch to hit that 92 win mark.

I think Jed sucks, but acting like it took a lot of luck for them to win 92 wins last season just doesn't seem fair to me. hoerner was only a little bit above where he usually is, seiya did not have a career year, and PCA/Busch could duplicate the seasons they had several times for all we know

[Geographyhater8888]

24 minutes ago, 17 Seconds said:

I think Jed sucks, but acting like it took a lot of luck for them to win 92 wins last season just doesn't seem fair to me. hoerner was only a little bit above where he usually is, seiya did not have a career year, and PCA/Busch could duplicate the seasons they had several times for all we know

You can call exceeding projections luck if you want but The lack of slug is a problem this season. You’re right, Suzukis OPS was 40+ points lower than the previous 2 seasons, but he still had over 100 RBIs and in large part from his home runs. That element from the offense is missing so far. 3 guys with 30-+ home runs in addition to Nico almost batting 300 was a major reason they hit that 92 win mark. 
 

 

Edited yesterday at 01:50 PM by Geographyhater8888

[Bertz]

Busch and PCA are both currently projected to match or exceed what they did last year.  Seiya Suzuki was worth 2.6 WAR last year.

[Backtobanks]

4 hours ago, Geographyhater8888 said:

It took Kyle Tucker and career years from PCA, Nico, Suzuki and Busch to hit that 92 win mark.

Don't forget the pitching staff of Boyd, Imanaga, Taillon, Horton, Palencia, Keller, Thielbar, and Pomeranz, some of whom had career years while the rest had very solid numbers.

[Rcal10]

2 minutes ago, Backtobanks said:

Don't forget the pitching staff of Boyd, Imanaga, Taillon, Horton, Palencia, Keller, Thielbar, and Pomeranz, some of whom had career years while the rest had very solid numbers.

Ok, but what is the point of this? So is it Jed gets lucky if he picks up a guy and he actually has a good year, but Jed sucks if he picks up a guy who struggles? Or does he get credit for Theilbar, Keller, Boyd and Pomeranz actually performing well. Does he suck because the system never being up a good pitcher but get lucky when Palencia and Horton do well? I am not saying you do this, but some people only comment when Jed misses on a guy but when he hits it just luck. Evey winning team has guys do well in the year they win. Not really odd. 

[We Got The Whole 9]

3 hours ago, Bertz said:

Busch and PCA are both currently projected to match or exceed what they did last year.  Seiya Suzuki was worth 2.6 WAR last year.

People just dont seem to be paying enough attention or at least directing it in the right places. Like how the hell do people not realize that we are top 5 wRC+ and 3rd in offensive war? Theyre not scoring like we need them to lately but its very obvious theyre not the problem to focus on. Lets stop bitching about PCA altogether. Hes looking at a 7 win season. Nico has settled back in at his usual pace, Busch has been his best self for quite a while now.

 

Jed's plan for the pitching staff this year has completely imploded and he is definitely on the hook for that. Most of the changes he made have been crap so far. The injuries have eroded the margin for error. 

 

To me the bottom line is that we just might not have a rotation that can win this division. We need Boyd to come back and pitch like an ace just to have a fighting chance, and Brown needs to keep up his pace as well. 

[Geographyhater8888]

2 hours ago, Backtobanks said:

Don't forget the pitching staff of Boyd, Imanaga, Taillon, Horton, Palencia, Keller, Thielbar, and Pomeranz, some of whom had career years while the rest had very solid numbers.

The core of position players performing at a consistently high level is really the only path towards winning games at the moment because the pitching sucks. Taillon falling off a cliff and Hortons absence have been major blows. 

Edited 19 hours ago by Geographyhater8888

[Derwood]