Freddy Peralta cost

[Layoutman]

Chicago Cubs named as ideal landing spot for Met and former Brewer Freddy Peralta

The fit seems to work. What's the cost if/when he becomes available?

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

I'm sure the Mets would want Wiggins or Rojas if it was a 1 for 1. Then Jed would try to convince them to take Kepley instead.

Edited Thursday at 10:25 PM by Tangled Up in Plaid

[Tryptamine]

49 minutes ago, Layoutman said:

Chicago Cubs named as ideal landing spot for Met and former Brewer Freddy Peralta

The fit seems to work. What's the cost if/when he becomes available?

The Mets need OF bats pretty desperately, the issue is so will the Cubs after 2026. I'm not sure there's a match here unless they just want best prospect available rather than position of need. Value wise I'd guess maybe Wiggins/Rojas and a guys in the 15-20 range or if you can get them to take a lesser lead piece like Alcantara you're probably looking at a good 2nd piece like a Kane Kepley.

[Rcal10]

3 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

The Mets need OF bats pretty desperately, the issue is so will the Cubs after 2026. I'm not sure there's a match here unless they just want best prospect available rather than position of need. Value wise I'd guess maybe Wiggins/Rojas and a guys in the 15-20 range or if you can get them to take a lesser lead piece like Alcantara you're probably looking at a good 2nd piece like a Kane Kepley.

If the Cubs honestly felt they could sign Peralta I wouldn’t have an issue with giving up 2 high end guys. But then they need to sign him. Maybe Shaw goes to the outfield, and you figure the last spot out among lower cost FA (maybe Conforto) or another system guy. Spend on the pitcher. 

[Tryptamine]

25 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

If the Cubs honestly felt they could sign Peralta I wouldn’t have an issue with giving up 2 high end guys. But then they need to sign him. Maybe Shaw goes to the outfield, and you figure the last spot out among lower cost FA (maybe Conforto) or another system guy. Spend on the pitcher. 

I mean my thought the whole time has been Shaw becomes your everyday RF, Pedro Ramirez becomes your Shaw and you address LF in FA. They can't address LF, RF, SP x2, C and various BP needs in FA in just one offseason.

[Rcal10]

38 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

I mean my thought the whole time has been Shaw becomes your everyday RF, Pedro Ramirez becomes your Shaw and you address LF in FA. They can't address LF, RF, SP x2, C and various BP needs in FA in just one offseason.

I’m fine with your scenerio. But then spend the big money on Peralta. If they do that, I would be fine with them trading for him. But I doubt the Mets deal him anyway. 

[Soul]

I sure would love to trot Peralta out in a Cubs uniform to mow down his former team.

[CubinNY]

I'd try to trade Shaw for him. He's got nowhere to play. He's not going to hit with enough SLG. His fate was sealed when they signed Bregman. 

[Bull]

15 hours ago, Tryptamine said:

I mean my thought the whole time has been Shaw becomes your everyday RF, Pedro Ramirez becomes your Shaw and you address LF in FA. They can't address LF, RF, SP x2, C and various BP needs in FA in just one offseason.

I'm not sure you have to address catcher.  Between Amaya, Ayers and Mo, I feel like it's covered next year. Maybe not the strength it is this year but Ayers is a switch-hitter. If you don't think Ayers will be ready, it can be a patch job. I think Ayers is the real thing and will contribute significantly next year. 

 

[Tryptamine]

1 hour ago, CubinNY said:

I'd try to trade Shaw for him. He's got nowhere to play. He's not going to hit with enough SLG. His fate was sealed when they signed Bregman. 

You'd trade Shaw for half a year of Peralta? That is absolute madness.

[gflore34]

1 hour ago, Tryptamine said:

You'd trade Shaw for half a year of Peralta? That is absolute madness.

Have to agree, if Peralta came with more seasons of control, probably.  But, for a few months?  No way.

Edited 13 hours ago by gflore34

[muntjack]

If we're going to move big pieces,  I'd be targeting Hunter Brown.  

[Rcal10]

59 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

Have to agree, if Peralta came with more seasons of control, probably.  But, for a few months?  No way.

You are going to see Shaw’s name thrown out there with bad trade ideas. Some people can’t differentiate the player on the field with the player and his personal beliefs. I wouldn’t mind seeing Shaw dealt, but I don’t want that to happen because of his personal beliefs. Has to be for quality of equal value. I think 6 years of Shaw for 2 months of Peralta is not value for the Cubs. 

[KCCub]

 

[Tryptamine]

18 minutes ago, KCCub said:

 

I Still think it will be interesting if the Mets decide to go need or bpa. If they go need, I'm really not sure how much the Cubs can offer. Alcantara sure I guess, but he's kind of a guy people like a lot or don't like at all. Long is fairly interesting if he can man RF/LF but I don't think he can be a lead piece unless the 2nd piece is pretty much equal value to Long. If I'm the Mets and just trying to maximize value I probably ask for something like Rojas and Mathis. 

[CubinNY]

46 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

You are going to see Shaw’s name thrown out there with bad trade ideas. Some people can’t differentiate the player on the field with the player and his personal beliefs. I wouldn’t mind seeing Shaw dealt, but I don’t want that to happen because of his personal beliefs. Has to be for quality of equal value. I think 6 years of Shaw for 2 months of Peralta is not value for the Cubs. 

It has little to do with him as a person. He doesn't have a position on the Cubs. If Shaw is too much for Peralta, fine. He's surplus on this team. Find a match with a good "cost-controlled" starting pitcher somewhere. 

[Tryptamine]

2 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

It has little to do with him as a person. He doesn't have a position on the Cubs. If Shaw is too much for Peralta, fine. He's surplus on this team. Find a match with a good "cost-controlled" starting pitcher somewhere. 

He does  have a position. As of right now he's your opening day 2027 RFer and right now he's your super sub. You cannot leave LF and RF both being needed to be addressed via FA.

[chibears55]

7 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

He does  have a position. As of right now he's your opening day 2027 RFer and right now he's your super sub. You cannot leave LF and RF both being needed to be addressed via FA.

I dont see nor do I think Hoyer sees Shaw inked in as an OD OFer for 2027.

I actually think as of now Alcantara would be ahead of Shaw to get an OF spot, since Suzuki return Shaw only been in OF twice.

So, I think if a team asks is for Shaw, i believe Hoyer would trade him to get that big SP in return 

[Tryptamine]

6 minutes ago, chibears55 said:

I dont see nor do I think Hoyer sees Shaw inked in as an OD OFer for 2027.

I actually think as of now Alcantara would be ahead of Shaw to get an OF spot, since Suzuki return Shaw only been in OF twice.

So, I think if a team asks is for Shaw, i believe Hoyer would trade him to get that big SP in return 

If he's relying on the guy with 34.3K% in AAA then god help us next year

[CubinNY]

28 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

He does  have a position. As of right now he's your opening day 2027 RFer and right now he's your super sub. You cannot leave LF and RF both being needed to be addressed via FA.

He's not really an OFer, they are using him there b/c that's his best fit on this team. Why wouldn't they resign Suzuki? 

[mul21]

10 minutes ago, chibears55 said:

I dont see nor do I think Hoyer sees Shaw inked in as an OD OFer for 2027.

I actually think as of now Alcantara would be ahead of Shaw to get an OF spot, since Suzuki return Shaw only been in OF twice.

So, I think if a team asks is for Shaw, i believe Hoyer would trade him to get that big SP in return 

If you think this, you clearly haven't been paying attention to the skills the Cubs FO seems to prefer in players, the most obvious being the ability to minimize swing and miss.  I'm not saying Shaw is ticketed for the starting job in RF/LF next season, but to think that Alcantara has the upper hand when one guy is already playing in MLB regularly and the other guy hasn't been up for more than a cup of coffee while on the 40 man roster the last 3 years seems silly.

[We Got The Whole 9]

This guy who doesn't have a position on our team is on pace for about 500 PA

[mul21]

3 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

He's not really an OFer, they are using him there b/c that's his best fit on this team. Why wouldn't they resign Suzuki? 

Ideally, that's a fantastic solution to the problem, but he'll be 32 in August and may want a longer term deal than the Cubs are willing to offer.  If they can get him for 2 more years, that would be perfect but I'd be surprised if he takes that deal/someone doesn't offer him 3-4 years.

[Bertz]

10 minutes ago, We Got The Whole 9 said:

This guy who doesn't have a position on our team is on pace for about 500 PA

And has a 127 wRC+ in a shade under 300 PAs going back to last ASB

[chibears55]

30 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

If he's relying on the guy with 34.3K% in AAA then god help us next year

Just saying i think as of now Alcantara is more likely ahead of Shaw as being an OD outfielder (not saying hes getting a spot, just saying between the two),  obviously it could change by the offseason but I just dont feel Shaw is inked in as of today. 

Edited 11 hours ago by chibears55