Cubs (Imanaga?) vs Brewers (Misiorowski?): 10/11/25, 7:08pm

[Hortonhearsawho]

It will be interesting to see how much money Tucker ends up getting. It really could be as low as a 1 year prove it deals to a massive over pay by a desperate team or some where in between. 

[Geographyhater8888]

28 minutes ago, squally1313 said:

Because that doesn’t help his narrative 

That fits no one’s narrative. We don’t even need Tucker if we were 6th highest scoring offense without him for a month. 

Edited October 12, 2025 by Geographyhater8888

[We Got The Whole 9]

1 hour ago, 17 Seconds said:

they might be better on paper than they were on paper this year, but I just don't see them winning 97 games again

All you can do is put the best team on paper that you can. 

[Wilson A2000]

55 minutes ago, Hortonhearsawho said:

It will be interesting to see how much money Tucker ends up getting. It really could be as low as a 1 year prove it deals to a massive over pay by a desperate team or some where in between. 

Someone is going to pay, especially before the looming lockout and hard salary cap. It’s probably going to be the Yankees. 

[Gjfificifjdej]

PCA needs a sports psychologist badly, normal people don’t behave like that. 

[chibears55]

2 hours ago, Geographyhater8888 said:

I just don’t which direction they intend to take. Will Cassie be used as a trade chip or a contingency plan for Happ/Suzuki? Happ will be off the books next season and 30 so they’ll either find his replacement which will be a typical 4 year deal for maybe 12 wins or roll with these fringe top 50 prospects? Either way a 4 year $100 million deal for Cease seems par for the course. For a team so adamant on “2032” And “sustained success” their farm is relatively weak.

I doubt they trade Caissie, he'll be starting at some point next season..

 

[Geographyhater8888]

8 minutes ago, chibears55 said:

I doubt they trade Caissie, he'll be starting at some point next season..

 

I’d be surprised too but what are the plans with Mo who can’t play a position? Happ and Suzuki are on the books for another season so unless a trade occurs there’s a surplus of outfielders and DH options and it doesn’t make a lot of sense to carry all 4 if you’re expecting sufficient playing time. That would require a lot of faith in Cassie if they get Happ to wave his NTC which is another half measure by the front office and another potential Shaw situation if he struggles out of the gate. 

Edited October 12, 2025 by Geographyhater8888

[NorthsideAvenger]

LOL at the Brewers. Their attempt at trolling last night in their team photo was merely amusing. They can't even troll right. Wrong flag, you dorks.  

[NorthsideAvenger]

15 minutes ago, Gjfificifjdej said:

PCA needs a sports psychologist badly, normal people don’t behave like that. 

?

[chibears55]

Was thinking about Boyd Rea and the Cubs Rotation for 2026.

They definitely need to get a solid TOR guy in the offseason, and they'll have Steele(June), Taillon, Horton and probably Imanaga. 

Boyd will likely start the season in rotation in place of Steele, but afterwards would he eventually be a good fit for the bullpen as long relief/spot starter? Same with Rea if they pick up his option.

I wouldn't mind having two veterans like them as SP depth in the bullpen, that could easily go 2-4 innings if needed, a lefty and righty.

 

[chibears55]

11 minutes ago, Geographyhater8888 said:

I’d be surprised too but what are the plans with Mo who can’t play a position? Happ and Suzuki are on the books for another season so unless a trade occurs there’s a surplus of outfielders and DH options and it doesn’t make a lot of sense to carry all 4 if you’re expecting sufficient playing time. That would require a lot of faith in Cassie if they get Happ to wave his NTC which is another half measure by the front office and another potential Shaw situation if he struggles out of the gate. 

I think depending on how season going, they'll look to move both Happ and or Suzuki during the season.

If they really want to start Mo at DH on opening Day, then Suzuki will just start in RF until if or when they feel Caissie is ready to take over and look to trade Suzuki 

[Jason Ross]

32 minutes ago, Gjfificifjdej said:

PCA needs a sports psychologist badly, normal people don’t behave like that. 

Jacob Misiorowski celebrated a 1 unassisted like he won the world series in Game 2.

This is how young, emotional player react. 

[Chicago Al]

24 minutes ago, chibears55 said:

Was thinking about Boyd Rea and the Cubs Rotation for 2026.

They definitely need to get a solid TOR guy in the offseason, and they'll have Steele(June), Taillon, Horton and probably Imanaga. 

Boyd will likely start the season in rotation in place of Steele, but afterwards would he eventually be a good fit for the bullpen as long relief/spot starter? Same with Rea if they pick up his option.

I wouldn't mind having two veterans like them as SP depth in the bullpen, that could easily go 2-4 innings if needed, a lefty and righty.

 

Boyd had a very good season, I don’t think the Cubs reward his performance by sending him to the bullpen.

Edited October 12, 2025 by Chicago Al

[Outshined_One]

I don't see trading Shaw as giving up on him. I'd see it as maximizing his present value, given that he has proven that he can be at least an above average 3B just with his defense, and his bat is a bit of an open question going forward. He can still be a starting quality 3B with a long career with a mediocre bat and good defense, but I think that can be upgraded for next season.

The big question I think we all have for next season is the rotation, and I get the sense there's only so much money in the kitty that a trade pretty much *has* to happen to get either a big bat or a TOR starter. I'm skeptical they'll be able to acquire both in FA, but I think replacing Shaw's current production would be doable with Bregman or Suarez, and I think a lot of teams would be open to trading a top flight controllable SP for him.

[Geographyhater8888]

30 minutes ago, chibears55 said:

I think depending on how season going, they'll look to move both Happ and or Suzuki during the season.

If they really want to start Mo at DH on opening Day, then Suzuki will just start in RF until if or when they feel Caissie is ready to take over and look to trade Suzuki 

If the Cubs are in playoff contention and Happ and Suzuki are putting up their usual slash lines that would be surprising. The lack of right handed slug would also be a platoon disadvantage by moving Suzuki. If anyone is moved my guess is it’ll happen in the offseason.

Edited October 12, 2025 by Geographyhater8888

[Transmogrified Tiger]

22 minutes ago, Outshined_One said:

I don't see trading Shaw as giving up on him. I'd see it as maximizing his present value, given that he has proven that he can be at least an above average 3B just with his defense, and his bat is a bit of an open question going forward. He can still be a starting quality 3B with a long career with a mediocre bat and good defense, but I think that can be upgraded for next season.

The big question I think we all have for next season is the rotation, and I get the sense there's only so much money in the kitty that a trade pretty much *has* to happen to get either a big bat or a TOR starter. I'm skeptical they'll be able to acquire both in FA, but I think replacing Shaw's current production would be doable with Bregman or Suarez, and I think a lot of teams would be open to trading a top flight controllable SP for him.

Shaw had a 130 wRC+ after the all-star break.  He ended the year in a funk but I wouldn't put a low offensive ceiling on him just yet.  We should learn from the adjustments PCA made from his first taste of MLB pitching to his first full season.

But even beyond that, the team needs to have the possibility for positive variance, it got that from PCA, Busch, and to a lesser extent Shaw this year.  Trading Shaw in service of what's likely a market rate solution further cuts down on those opportunities since you have so many lineup spots spoken for.

[cubfansince77]

1 hour ago, Gjfificifjdej said:

PCA needs a sports psychologist badly, normal people don’t behave like that. 

He's wound pretty tight that's for sure. I've got lots of experience with anger MGMT. and he probly needs some of that. Only sport that rivals baseball in mental torture and subsequent frustration is Golf. 

[cubfansince77]

4 hours ago, Geographyhater8888 said:

Maybe they make a big blockbuster trade to acquire an Edward Cabrera for those precious fringe top 50 prospects but that’s counter intuitive to that sustained success. Maybe they’ll give Cease a medium length deal and call it an offseason but there’s a chance they go the route of reclamation projects like a Bieber/Buehler/or even Trevor Bauer who was a tad unlucky in the Japanese league.

You lost me at Trevor Bauer....HELL no bro

[cubfansince77]

14 hours ago, chibears55 said:

I mentioned getting an Ace to go with Steele, Horton, Taillon, Imanaga 

There's no journeyman there

I could see them going with Horton/Taillon/Imanaga/Assad and re-signing Rea as the 5th guy. Rea had a damn solid BOR year for 5mil. He's got a rubber arm but at his age? Who knows but he is the only one of the 5 last season who wasn't hurt and did IL time. So yeah, the more I think about it we need another starter as Steele wont be back until summer I would think and Wiggins isn't ready yet. 

[BKHoo]

Mo at DH? 

 

Suzuki in RF?

Edited October 12, 2025 by BKHoo

[Bertz]

26 minutes ago, Transmogrified Tiger said:

Shaw had a 130 wRC+ after the all-star break.  He ended the year in a funk but I wouldn't put a low offensive ceiling on him just yet.  We should learn from the adjustments PCA made from his first taste of MLB pitching to his first full season.

But even beyond that, the team needs to have the possibility for positive variance, it got that from PCA, Busch, and to a lesser extent Shaw this year.  Trading Shaw in service of what's likely a market rate solution further cuts down on those opportunities since you have so many lineup spots spoken for.

Going back even further, a 99 wRC+ from when he got called up in May onwards.  So that includes his *brutal* late June heading into the break.

Figure true talent right now he's an average bat and a +5 defender?  And at 23 years old, I agree hard to swap that out.  

[Geographyhater8888]

18 minutes ago, cubfansince77 said:

You lost me at Trevor Bauer....HELL no bro

That wasn’t meant to be taken seriously in any way. 

[Outshined_One]

22 minutes ago, Transmogrified Tiger said:

Shaw had a 130 wRC+ after the all-star break.  He ended the year in a funk but I wouldn't put a low offensive ceiling on him just yet.  We should learn from the adjustments PCA made from his first taste of MLB pitching to his first full season.

But even beyond that, the team needs to have the possibility for positive variance, it got that from PCA, Busch, and to a lesser extent Shaw this year. 

I understand the perspective, but that positive variance is also what contributes so much to Shaw's value in the trade market.  The PCA comparison is valid to an extent, but I don't think Shaw's skillset is comparable if you're doing an apples to apples comparison. I'm not saying Shaw is bad, far, far from it, but I also don't think he's untouchable.

I am also saying that he's at a position with 2-3 high quality FAs and he'd likely be the first ask in any potential trade deal for someone like, say, MacKenzie Gore, whereas I don't think you'd find similar interest or value with Caissie, Alcantara, or Ballesteros. 

[Gjfificifjdej]

30 minutes ago, Bertz said:

Going back even further, a 99 wRC+ from when he got called up in May onwards.  So that includes his *brutal* late June heading into the break.

Figure true talent right now he's an average bat and a +5 defender?  And at 23 years old, I agree hard to swap that out.  

People just hate Shaw, nothing to reason with there

[17 Seconds]

31 minutes ago, Gjfificifjdej said:

People just hate Shaw, nothing to reason with there

this coming from the person who constantly makes weird personal assumptions about players he dislikes