Cubs 2025 Trade Deadline Thread

[UMFan83]

[BigSlick]

5 minutes ago, 17 Seconds said:

we're counting on boyd/shota/taillon as a 1-2-3 in the playoffs, IF Boyd somehow makes it all the way there. not getting a playoff SP was huge. also we're trying to win a division and get a bye.

that guy simply wasn't available at this deadline. and we're 1 game back of the division and a bye. not where we wanted to be a month ago, but definitely not a disaster scenario! 

[Jfoley89]

3 minutes ago, Transmogrified Tiger said:

Listen dude if you just want to be mad that they didn't give us the dopamine hit of The Big Trade (tm), just say that instead of making up these increasingly intellectually dishonest caricatures

Straight to personal attacks when you lack data.  Tucker is 4.7 WAR for the year.  Bellinger is 3.6. Parades is 2.7 and Shaw is worth .6

I assume you can do math. 

[17 Seconds]

Just now, BigSlick said:

that guy simply wasn't available at this deadline. and we're 1 game back of the division and a bye. not where we wanted to be a month ago, but definitely not a disaster scenario! 

kelly would have been fine, and if there really isn't a SP you can work out a deal for, then get one of the million impact relievers that were moved

[Rcal10]

32 minutes ago, Outshined_One said:

Keller is the one I don't get. The Twins have a weird ownership situation, the Nats have an unsettled FO, and the Marlins could strike gold this offseason if Cabrera and Alcantara end the year healthy.

The Pirates? Keller is a decent controllable starter on a horsefeathers team that has zero hope of competing in the next two years and his value will only decline. What the hell are they doing?

Would you have traded Cassie+ for him. Not saying that was the cost, but if it was, would you do it. 

[PeanutPunch33]

9 minutes ago, BigSlick said:

I understand being disappointed but there are a lot of people in this thread that don't seem to realize this team has the best run differential in baseball and isn't like... scrambling to barely make the playoffs or something. 

They had a 6.5 game lead on Milwaukee 6 weeks ago and now are 1 game back lol.  If that isn't a strong enough motivation to make some moves then I don't know what is.  You don't win championships based on your run differential.  It's okay to call them out for the disaster that was this trade deadline.. forget the Brewers, even the Reds were more aggressive.  It's not acceptable 

[NorthsideAvenger]

17 minutes ago, BigSlick said:

Am I one of the few people not *that* upset about this trade deadline?

I agree. I will go as far and say that I did not say one team get appreciably better than other contenders. Every contender got better but not one moved in front of the rest. 

I feel like this deadline was more about reshuffling the rosters than improving it. 

[Jfoley89]

Just now, PeanutPunch33 said:

They had a 6.5 game lead on Milwaukee 6 weeks ago and now are 1 game back lol.  If that isn't a strong enough motivation to make some moves then I don't know what is.  You don't win championships based on your run differential.  It's okay to call them out for the disaster that was this trade deadline.. forget the Brewers, even the Reds were more aggressive.  It's not acceptable 

The team is 3 games over. 500 since June 1st and doesn't actually have 5 SPs on the roster.  

[Hot Sauce]

4 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

They didn’t need Suarez. They needed a quality bench bat with versatility and they got that. Gore, Ryan, Alcantara, Cabrera, and Cease stayed put. They were neither winners or losers. 

[Ding Dong Johnson]

1 minute ago, Hot Sauce said:

They didn’t need Suarez. They needed a quality bench bat with versatility and they got that. Gore, Ryan, Alcantara, Cabrera, and Cease stayed put. They were neither winners or losers. 

They were losers. They needed a TOR guy and instead clung onto their farm. Everyone is available for a price. 

[BKHoo]

San Diego got much better. 

[BigbadB]

7 minutes ago, Donzo said:

The top 3 can be Shota, Boyd and Horton- what he's done his last two starts, really three of his last four, he's shown to have a playoff pedigree.

We all know he has to take a break. If he follows Wiggins' ACR path, he'll pitch August 1st and could be back as soon as August 31st or September 6th to finish out the year as a starter.

I don’t think it’s a good idea to over extend his innings this year. Playoff starts can include short rest. I felt one starter was the #1 priority. Alcantara, Kelly, Cease, Cabrera seemed like guys who may not have cost the farm. Gotta hope Taillon is ready for a strong return. 

[17 Seconds]

Just now, BKHoo said:

San Diego got much better. 

so did the yankees and astros

[CubinNY]

I’m thinking this is part of the Ricketts grand strategy of having low low payroll for the long strike they know is coming. 
 

They’re playing the long game with Jed as a willing participant. 
 

Suckers are going to show up at Wrigley anyway. 

[Transmogrified Tiger]

7 minutes ago, Jfoley89 said:

Straight to personal attacks when you lack data.  Tucker is 4.7 WAR for the year.  Bellinger is 3.6. Parades is 2.7 and Shaw is worth .6

I assume you can do math. 

Boy is that not how that comparison works on like 3 different levels, but enjoy being furious about the Cubs having a very good team I guess

[We Got The Whole 9]

6 minutes ago, PeanutPunch33 said:

They had a 6.5 game lead on Milwaukee 6 weeks ago and now are 1 game back lol.  If that isn't a strong enough motivation to make some moves then I don't know what is.  You don't win championships based on your run differential.  It's okay to call them out for the disaster that was this trade deadline.. forget the Brewers, even the Reds were more aggressive.  It's not acceptable 

They didnt lose that lead by fault of their own. They played really well and the Brewers just didnt lose.

[UMFan83]

1 minute ago, Jfoley89 said:

The team is 3 games over. 500 since June 1st and doesn't actually have 5 SPs on the roster.  

You say 3 games over since June 1st like it’s bad (and it’s actually 4 games over, 27-23 with a +20 RD). Thats an 87-75 pace. Almost every team has down stretches over the course of the season. If the Cubs down stretches is playing at an 87 win pace, that’s not really a bad thing at all. 

[Hot Sauce]

2 minutes ago, Ding Dong Johnson said:

They were losers. They needed a TOR guy and instead clung onto their farm. Everyone is available for a price. 

And you think the Cubs were the only team capable of paying that price? 

[UMFan83]

Just now, We Got The Whole 9 said:

They didnt lose that lead by fault of their own. They played really well and the Brewers just didnt lose.

I was gonna say something like this but his point doesn’t necessarily have to imply that the Cubs have played bad. They’re just in a division with a team who has performed very very well. If the deadline was supposed to help us get on par with a team that has been 7.5 games better than us in the standings over the last 2+ months then it’s debatable. Of course all the games matter and if we count all of them were just 1 game worse. Maybe we did improve by a couple games over the deadline, who knows. 

[WhyCantWeWin]

Good stuff, with Pressly dfa’d, most of you dont have to pretend hes good anymore 

[Bobson Dugnutt]

So, Castro will be in the lineup most days, right? I think getting rest for each of our starters will be important, he can hit lefties and righties, and he can play all over the field.

[s2obed]

I don’t think anybody is mad about the guys the Cubs acquired, but they missed out on adding to what was their top need.
 

Sorry but Soroka isn’t it.

Edited July 31, 2025 by s2obed

[NorthsideAvenger]

13 minutes ago, Hot Sauce said:

They didn’t need Suarez. They needed a quality bench bat with versatility and they got that. Gore, Ryan, Alcantara, Cabrera, and Cease stayed put. They were neither winners or losers. 

Agreed.

Getting flotsam's like Brujan, Pressly, Flexen, etc off the roster is considered a win to me. 

Edited July 31, 2025 by NorthsideAvenger

[PeanutPunch33]

3 minutes ago, We Got The Whole 9 said:

They didnt lose that lead by fault of their own. They played really well and the Brewers just didnt lose.

Before today, I would have said that the Cubs could beat anybody in the NL except maybe the Phillies.  After today, I wouldn't even take them in a series against the Mets or Padres.  Everybody else got better and the Cubs did not.  Castro and some C level bullpen additions don't make them significantly better than they were yesterday.  

[bukie]

The Cubs have the second best record in baseball, not just in their division. This ignorant fatalism is just silly. They're basically the only team in baseball that has consistently been good to great all season.

And the trade deadline isn't some all you can eat buffet where you just pick out what you like and take it. If the opportunity cost is prohibitive, then you don't bite. If no teams bite, it definitely sounds like the opportunity cost was prohibitive.