Cubs (Taillon) vs Astros (Valdez): 6/29/25, 1:10pm

[Derwood]

Just now, UMFan83 said:

Nice he got out of it without damage but 31 pitches is going to make it tougher moving forward.

They fouled off like 15 pitches

[Geographyhater8888]

Why doesn’t Taillon throw sinkers as much anymore?

[squally1313]

Derwood beat me to it, but the events that led to all the vitriol above:

- a 61 mph EV opposite field bloop to paredes

- a ground call up the middle 

- striking out altuve

- cam smith fly out to Tucker that didn’t reach the track

- ground ball to Dansby for a routine out 

[PeanutPunch33]

2 minutes ago, Derwood said:

He gave up two soft hits then retired the side. Buck up, you ninnies

Do you serve as an apologist for every mediocre pitcher that exists on this team? LOL yesterday you came at me for saying that Rea sucks.  Even though most people on this board would agree with that statement 🤷‍♂️

[UMFan83]

24 pitches through 2 is sub-optimal for getting him out before the 7th or later

[Cubbies1996]

Sheesh Valdez went through that inning like a hot knife through butter! Need a quick one from Jamo!

[squally1313]

1 minute ago, PeanutPunch33 said:

Do you serve as an apologist for every mediocre pitcher that exists on this team? LOL yesterday you came at me for saying that Rea sucks.  Even though most people on this board would agree with that statement 🤷‍♂️

I’ll take a different approach. Colin Rea sucks because of his entire body of work, and what he did yesterday, which included getting fairly lucky BABIP wise but also giving him credit for zero walks, shouldn’t change your overall view because it was 5 innings. 
 

Jameson Taillon is an average pitcher results wise who eats a ton of innings. The contract has been fine, his performance has been fine. Commenting on his overall skill level because of a bloop single and a ground ball single (neither of which scored) is dumb. 
 

[Geographyhater8888]

If PCA doesn’t hit a home run today it’ll be the first calendar week he hasn’t gone yard since the first week of April.

[Rcal10]

6 minutes ago, squally1313 said:

Derwood beat me to it, but the events that led to all the vitriol above:

- a 61 mph EV opposite field bloop to paredes

- a ground call up the middle 

- striking out altuve

- cam smith fly out to Tucker that didn’t reach the track

- ground ball to Dansby for a routine out 

Also, he has Cam stuck out but the umpire missed the call. He got him out twice

[Rcal10]

2 minutes ago, squally1313 said:

I’ll take a different approach. Colin Rea sucks because of his entire body of work, and what he did yesterday, which included getting fairly lucky BABIP wise but also giving him credit for zero walks, shouldn’t change your overall view because it was 5 innings. 
 

Jameson Taillon is an average pitcher results wise who eats a ton of innings. The contract has been fine, his performance has been fine. Commenting on his overall skill level because of a bloop single and a ground ball single (neither of which scored) is dumb. 
 

Agreed. Jamo is a decent #3 starter. Not great, but ok. He is a solid #4. Rea is, at best a #5, swing starter. That said, this is a rough match up for him. 

[Derwood]

I generally save my "player X SUCKS!!" posts for times when the player is sucking. I don't think Jamo is sucking so far in this game.

[Illiterate Scholar]

Is there anyone who looks less like a major leaguer than Luis Guillorme? 

[Geographyhater8888]

Taillon to me as an innings eating Jason Hammel who has a knack for getting shelled, just less often.

[Derwood]

Now Justin Turner, HE sucks

[WhyCantWeWin]

Are we still pretending that Turner will have a miraculous turnaround during his age 40 season?

[UMFan83]

I wish we had pitchers like Valdez on the Cubs (outside of shota)

Edit: he says as Berti of all people singles off him

Edited June 29, 2025 by UMFan83

[Andy]

Valdez has A+ stuff today, will be tough to score much.

I was just ready to type Berti will run and off he went.

[731.4life]

2 minutes ago, Derwood said:

I generally save my "player X SUCKS!!" posts for times when the player is sucking. I don't think Jamo is sucking so far in this game.

People saying that he is sucks because Houston fouled off pitches is weird. Give credit for Houston for doing something that is a lost art in the game today...

[JHBulls]

Justin Turner’s biggest highlight of the year was wearing a fake ballsack and here is is with yet another uncompetitive AB. Just release him already ffs. 

[UMFan83]

11 pitch inning ugh

[PeanutPunch33]

5 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

Agreed. Jamo is a decent #3 starter. Not great, but ok. He is a solid #4. Rea is, at best a #5, swing starter. That said, this is a rough match up for him. 

Disagree completely on Jamo being a #3.  He's got a mid 4 FIP in 3 years with the Cubs, and a negative WAR for 2 of his 3 seasons here.  This is a guy you'd want to pitch in a game 3 of a playoff series?  

He's a #4 or #5 on a good team.  Not overpaid I guess because he fills a lot of innings.  But not really that great.  Definition of average.  

[WhyCantWeWin]

Astros are positioned perfectly 

[squally1313]

3 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

I wish we had pitchers like Valdez on the Cubs (outside of shota)

Edit: he says as Berti of all people singles off him

Kinda feel like Steele is about as close as you can get to Valdez, to be fair 

[UMFan83]

1 minute ago, JHBulls said:

Justin Turner’s biggest highlight of the year was wearing a fake ballsack and here is is with yet another uncompetitive AB. Just release him already ffs. 

Yep I've been wanting to give him a shot but I'm pretty much done with him.  Cool that he's a good clubhouse guy but if he's our platoon guy against lefties it's simply not working.  I'd keep him as a 26th man but not this role.

BTW he did have a walk off hit for the Cubs so at least there is an on the field moment that you can remember.

[Andy]

1 minute ago, JHBulls said:

Justin Turner’s biggest highlight of the year was wearing a fake ballsack and here is is with yet another uncompetitive AB. Just release him already ffs. 

Valdez is really tough to hit and he had some filthy movement on that strikeout pitch but Turner was fishing that whole AB