Cubs (Taillon) vs Cardinals (McGreevy): 6/24/25, 6:45pm

[Dfan25]

1 minute ago, Derwood said:

They are 7 games back and in 4th place

I think they won tonight . They are 3 over right now , I believe . All they have to do is get the 3rd wild card spot . They have gone on big 2nd half runs before . I don’t believe they are selling 

[cubfansince77]

PCA's blunder sucked but the kid has been lights out all season so....I give him a pass tonight. Once again the pitching was brutal....Tallion is back to being his half assed self after a really solid April and May. Need Boyd and Shota to stop the bleeding and Jed needs to give this team a jolt by trading for another starter. Shaw is mostly lost and they've mismanaged the third base position horribly. Dansby continues to suck with RISP and he's the top paid dude on the team last I looked. Move him down in the order fer crissakes Craig...it's past time. 

Bottom line? 7 runs should be more than enough to win. Last 6 games have been a cluster eff on the mound.

[17 Seconds]

at least Jed is gone if they blow the postseason yet again

[Hot Sauce]

2 minutes ago, 17 Seconds said:

at least Jed is gone if they blow the postseason yet again

They can do a whole lot worse than Jed. 

[17 Seconds]

Just now, Hot Sauce said:

They can do a whole lot worse than Jed. 

and they can do a whole lot better

[cubfansince77]

2 minutes ago, 17 Seconds said:

at least Jed is gone if they blow the postseason yet again

That's a fact. It ain't looking good right now, possible June swoon incoming. If the team is 1/2 as good as most of us hope and think they are, this is just a mini slump and they'll come out of this pronto. Boyd and Shota going next two so....let's go. 

[Hot Sauce]

1 minute ago, 17 Seconds said:

and they can do a whole lot better

Better, sure, but Jed has done a pretty good job here. 

[Hot Sauce]

4 minutes ago, cubfansince77 said:

That's a fact. It ain't looking good right now, possible June swoon incoming. If the team is 1/2 as good as most of us hope and think they are, this is just a mini slump and they'll come out of this pronto. Boyd and Shota going next two so....let's go. 

June is over in a week. 

[17 Seconds]

Just now, Hot Sauce said:

Better, sure, but Jed has done a pretty good job here. 

how? he was allowed to tank and has been given a large payroll in a weak division, and still hasn't made the postseason. the results are not there.

IF they miss the playoffs again, it's an easy decision

[Cubbies1996]

Gonna spread positivity; Boyd has a really good game, PCA has a great game and Counsell pulls his head out of his ass and hits Dansby 7th or 8th!

[Derwood]

[cubfansince77]

3 minutes ago, Cubbies1996 said:

Gonna spread positivity; Boyd has a really good game, PCA has a great game and Counsell pulls his head out of his ass and hits Dansby 7th or 8th!

Sounds good to me. Most of what ails us is fixable right now, at least I think it is. Time will tell but as another poster pointed out, if we don't win this watered down division this season that's it for Jed: like him or not. 

[Hot Sauce]

4 minutes ago, 17 Seconds said:

how? he was allowed to tank and has been given a large payroll in a weak division, and still hasn't made the postseason. the results are not there.

IF they miss the playoffs again, it's an easy decision

He made the correct calls on Javy, KB, and Rizzo. Managed to acquire PCA in one of those deals. Brought in Tucker. Hit on Boyd, which was largely criticized when it happened. If the team misses the post-season this year it won’t be because he didn’t put a playoff caliber team on the field. He’s been exactly “pretty good.”

Losing to St. Louis sucks, but everyone here needs to take a breather. 

[gflore34]

Well, they'll be facing more of same, pitching wise, from the Cardinals in the remaining games so, I feel good about the Cubs scoring a bunch of runs. Question is can Boyd and Shota give them some quality starts.

Edited June 25, 2025 by gflore34

[17 Seconds]

7 minutes ago, Hot Sauce said:

He made the correct calls on Javy, KB, and Rizzo. Managed to acquire PCA in one of those deals. Brought in Tucker. Hit on Boyd, which was largely criticized when it happened. If the team misses the post-season this year it won’t be because he didn’t put a playoff caliber team on the field. He’s been exactly “pretty good.”

Losing to St. Louis sucks, but everyone here needs to take a breather. 

im not basing it on their recent play, I'm basing it in his entire time here. listing a few good things that he's done isn't going to change the fact that he's been given a fairly large amount of resources and has accomplished nothing.. he is mediocre and the cubs can do better.

[cubfansince77]

5 minutes ago, Hot Sauce said:

He made the correct calls on Javy, KB, and Rizzo. Managed to acquire PCA in one of those deals. Brought in Tucker. Hit on Boyd, which was largely criticized when it happened. If the team misses the post-season this year it won’t be because he didn’t put a playoff caliber team on the field. He’s been exactly “pretty good.”

Losing to St. Louis sucks, but everyone here needs to take a breather. 

Yes and no...you are spot on about Javy/KB/Rizzo and he's also made great decisions on bringing in Suzuki and Shota, but ya gotta remember that Schwarber was allowed to walk which has been mostly horrible for us. Yeah, I know it's Ricketts that pulled the levers on that but still at the end of the day Jed was in charge and has to be accountable. He gave up too much for Tucker IMO and now we have a ginormous hole at 3rd base as a result. Tallion signing has been very up and down to say the least and the bullpen has been a merry go round of vets and has beens that hasn't paid off in recent years but has looked better for most of this season.

Oh and I almost forgot Dansby....as much as I like the guy (he's a class act) he just hasn't performed well enough to justify his mega deal.  At the end of the day Jed has made Tommy Boy a crap ton of dough, and I get the distinct impression the boss likes him. So maybe you're right and he'll survive this season regardless of the outcome. Time will tell, it always does. 

 

[InSeungHo]

It's been a bad week of pitching. It happens; it's a long season. Shake it off and get back to playing good baseball. That's all that we can hope for until Jed makes some moves to improve the team.  

[Jason Ross]

48 hours ago the Cubs had the best record in the NL just a few games before the half way point. I get that the Cardinals are our biggest rival, but we don't need to go off the deep end because we lost two games. 

Reality is the pitching cannot give up this many home runs; it will even out. They still need help, but they arent going to serve up HR derby balls for much longer either. 

A good thing to remember is that when the Cubs are in a bad stretch, it's rarely as bad as it feels. They will come out of this.

[Hot Sauce]

8 minutes ago, cubfansince77 said:

Yes and no...you are spot on about Javy/KB/Rizzo and he's also made great decisions on bringing in Suzuki and Shota, but ya gotta remember that Schwarber was allowed to walk which has been mostly horrible for us. Yeah, I know it's Ricketts that pulled the levers on that but still at the end of the day Jed was in charge and has to be accountable. He gave up too much for Tucker IMO and now we have a ginormous hole at 3rd base as a result. Tallion signing has been very up and down to say the least and the bullpen has been a merry go round of vets and has beens that hasn't paid off in recent years but has looked better for most of this season.

Oh and I almost forgot Dansby....as much as I like the guy (he's a class act) he just hasn't performed well enough to justify his mega deal.  At the end of the day Jed has made Tommy Boy a crap ton of dough, and I get the distinct impression the boss likes him. So maybe you're right and he'll survive this season regardless of the outcome. Time will tell, it always does. 

 

There is no giving up “too much” for Tucker. Jed gave up what it cost to acquire him. The alternative was no Tucker, not a less costly package for Tucker. The Cubs aldo aren’t as good without him. 

[Hot Sauce]

11 minutes ago, InSeungHo said:

It's been a bad week of pitching. It happens; it's a long season. Shake it off and get back to playing good baseball. That's all that we can hope for until Jed makes some moves to improve the team.  

Never change. Your optimism is appreciated.

[We Got The Whole 9]

3 hours ago, cubfansince77 said:

Sounds good to me. Most of what ails us is fixable right now, at least I think it is. Time will tell but as another poster pointed out, if we don't win this watered down division this season that's it for Jed: like him or not. 

9 teams have scored 370+ runs this year. 4 of them play in the NL Central. Each of those teams also has a top 10 run differential. It's not a watered down division. It's probably the best in baseball. The reason the Cubs haven't won is multi-pronged and the Brewers consistent excellence at extracting value should probably be credited accordingly. They've run laps around us for the better part of the last 7 years. Half the payroll and they still win each year. 

[NorthsideAvenger]

At least the offense showed and the bullpen did their jobs.

Let's take these next two games and leave the capital city of Hades with a split.

Do it Cubs.

[BigbadB]

9 hours ago, Dfan25 said:

Dbacks aren’t selling . That offense is too good to give up . They will probably add a couple of relievers . Suarez ain’t happening .

Corbin Carroll just went on the IL with a chip fracture in his hand after a HBP. That won't help their situation.

 

[CubUgly]

1 hour ago, NorthsideAvenger said:

At least the offense showed and the bullpen did their jobs.

Let's take these next two games and leave the capital city of Hades with a split.

Do it Cubs.

Geez this stretch has been horrible.   Yes the Phillies lost 9 of 10 this year as have the Mets and the Yanks had a pretty bad stretch too.....and yest the 2016 Cubs had a 5-15 stretch right around this time of year.  But none of that makes me feel better.

Tonight was especially frustrating.  I said at 5-5 please pull Taillon...I get playing the long game to save the pen but you just did that with Brown the night before.....play to win this one.

And the brain farts by PCA, the not knowing how many outs, then bunting.   

Should CC have challenged the runner leaving base early on PCA's brain fart?  JD seemed to think so, though he's too nice to push it.

So much frustration to unpack in losing a 1 run game we really should have one. 

[Rcal10]

I havent seen it mentioned, so maybe it is just me or maybe I missed it when people did mention it.  But did the homer to left look like a ball that Suzuki could have caught had he went to the spot instead of running around lost as to where the ball was? It looked like it just cleared the wall. Guys get gloves over the wall in St.l. To me it didn’t look like it would have even been that high a jump to get it. Did anyone else see that or am I just wrong and it cleared by a lot? I am not blaming him for not catching it. Even if he went straight back it would have had to be a nice play. I am just frustrated on them losing because they didn’t play a clean game. Cardinals bad fielding right fielder made 2 nice plays. Couldnt we make one? And maybe know the outs in a inning.