Bears Week 1 vs Titans: Sunday 9/8 noon on Fox

[Tryptamine]

All this talk about about how the Bears should cash in on Bagent and bring in a veteran backup. Then I keep seeing the Bears should get a 4th back. Why would they do this? I'm not some huge Bagent believer, but why have to go out and spend a significant amount of money on a capable backup just for a 4th round pick? Unless teams want to get stupid and throw like a 2nd or very early 3rd then it just doesn't make sense. 

[jersey cubs fan]

Just now, Tryptamine said:

All this talk about about how the Bears should cash in on Bagent and bring in a veteran backup. Then I keep seeing the Bears should get a 4th back. Why would they do this? I'm not some huge Bagent believer, but why have to go out and spend a significant amount of money on a capable backup just for a 4th round pick? Unless teams want to get stupid and throw like a 2nd or very early 3rd then it just doesn't make sense. 

Where is all this talk? 
They may be able to trade him eventually but I assume it would have to be after an actual stint where he fills in for Caleb and does well in real games. And I really hope that never happens. 

[BigbadB]

Just now, jersey cubs fan said:

Where is all this talk? 
They may be able to trade him eventually but I assume it would have to be after an actual stint where he fills in for Caleb and does well in real games. And I really hope that never happens. 

It's all over Facebook Bears pages. I'm annoyed by it. If he is a capable backup, I'd rather he be that here than somewhere else. The amount of missed games by NFL starters at QB last year was staggering. 

[Tryptamine]

11 minutes ago, BigbadB said:

It's all over Facebook Bears pages. I'm annoyed by it. If he is a capable backup, I'd rather he be that here than somewhere else. The amount of missed games by NFL starters at QB last year was staggering. 

Yes, a lot of it specifically mentioning the Cowboys and Raiders are teams that should be in on Bagent.

[Derwood]

2 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

Yes, a lot of it specifically mentioning the Cowboys and Raiders are teams that should be in on Bagent.

The Bears should be in on Bagent.

[Tryptamine]

9 minutes ago, Derwood said:

The Bears should be in on Bagent.

Like I said, I'm with you unless another team is willing to part with a 2nd. I know I said an early 3rd, but I'm not even entirely comfortable with that.

[WrigleyField 22]

If teams are throwing high thirds on Bagent now, I'll take my chances they'll part with a 2nd on a RFA tag in 2026 offseason and Bears get two more cheap backup years on a guy they apparently like.

[Brian707]

20 minutes ago, BigbadB said:

It's all over Facebook Bears pages. I'm annoyed by it. If he is a capable backup, I'd rather he be that here than somewhere else. The amount of missed games by NFL starters at QB last year was staggering. 

Its nothing more than clickbait. Ive seen a lot of it.

[Brian707]

 

[David]

1 hour ago, BigbadB said:

It's all over Facebook Bears pages. I'm annoyed by it. If he is a capable backup, I'd rather he be that here than somewhere else. The amount of missed games by NFL starters at QB last year was staggering. 

My advice to you is to avoid Facebook Bears pages and sports discourse. 

 

Actually, just avoid Facebook altogether. 

[jersey cubs fan]

Personally I would not cite Facebook bears pages as “all this talk”, it’s just a bunch of jabronis jabroning. 

[NorthsideAvenger]

Do you really want to replace Bagent with a guy like Tannehill or Mike White?

Just keep Bagent. There is not a trade out there worth moving Bagent for. 

[bukie]

At least over the next 3 weeks, we'll have a good idea whether or not these Bears are capable of winning the AFC South.

[David]

32 minutes ago, jersey cubs fan said:

Personally I would not cite Facebook bears pages as “all this talk”, it’s just a bunch of jabronis jabroning. 

It's terrible for my mental health because I'll scroll past these absurd memes about Caleb or whatever (a recent one was a graphic with a bunch of completely made up quotes from Eberflus talking about how they were going to bench him because he's a diva or something) and somehow 95% of the comments are oblivious to the fact that it's completely made up, seriously discussing (in very stupid ways) the obviously fake horsefeathers.  I have to actively remind myself not to read it because it's extremely frustrating.  I've even gotten (not very bright) people I know in real life asking me about the fake stories.

[UMFan83]

Surprised the Bears cut Brett Rypien.  All things considered he had a solid preseason and seemed like a competent 3rd string QB.  Do the Bears only plan on keeping 2 QBs on the 53 man with Austin Reed as the practice squad/emergency QB or did Reed make the 53 man?

[jersey cubs fan]

2 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

Surprised the Bears cut Brett Rypien.  All things considered he had a solid preseason and seemed like a competent 3rd string QB.  Do the Bears only plan on keeping 2 QBs on the 53 man with Austin Reed as the practice squad/emergency QB or did Reed make the 53 man?

Shocking news when you consider the extremely high likelihood that Bagent will be trade before Labor Day 

[Tryptamine]

I was actually fairly impressed with Reed, albeit against a bunch of guys who aren't likely to make their own team's active rosters.

[bukie]

15 hours ago, David said:

The defense, even before Sweat arrived, was doing better once he took over playcalling, and obviously finished very strongly.  They did slay a few bum QBs, FWIW, but that happens in the NFL.

After this team started 0-3 last year and looked nowhere close to being competitive at any point during them, they finished 7-7 and should have been 10-4, having blown double digit 4th quarter leads 3 times (led 28-7 against Denver, led 26-14 in Detroit, led 17-7 in Cleveland), and the only game that was non-competitive was against the Chargers (lost 30-13). They beat Detroit, won in Minnesota, destroyed a Falcons team that needed that win to win their division.

Their weighted DVOA was 11th in the league, emphasizing their second half was good enough to be a playoff quality team, even with a bottom 10 offense. They spent the offseason retooling that offense, adding a QB, 2 WRs and a RB, and I'm optimistic that can finally push them into the top half of teams offensively for the first time in nearly 20 years.

So yes, I'm optimistic about the team's chances this year.

[David]

9 minutes ago, bukie said:

After this team started 0-3 last year and looked nowhere close to being competitive at any point during them, they finished 7-7 and should have been 10-4, having blown double digit 4th quarter leads 3 times (led 28-7 against Denver, led 26-14 in Detroit, led 17-7 in Cleveland), and the only game that was non-competitive was against the Chargers (lost 30-13). They beat Detroit, won in Minnesota, destroyed a Falcons team that needed that win to win their division.

Their weighted DVOA was 11th in the league, emphasizing their second half was good enough to be a playoff quality team, even with a bottom 10 offense. They spent the offseason retooling that offense, adding a QB, 2 WRs and a RB, and I'm optimistic that can finally push them into the top half of teams offensively for the first time in nearly 20 years.

So yes, I'm optimistic about the team's chances this year.

You should see my betting accounts.  Or not.  Maybe not.

[UMFan83]

1 hour ago, jersey cubs fan said:

Shocking news when you consider the extremely high likelihood that Bagent will be trade before Labor Day 

Is the asking price up to a 2 from a team that projects to be bad yet?

[UMFan83]

1 hour ago, bukie said:

After this team started 0-3 last year and looked nowhere close to being competitive at any point during them, they finished 7-7 and should have been 10-4, having blown double digit 4th quarter leads 3 times (led 28-7 against Denver, led 26-14 in Detroit, led 17-7 in Cleveland), and the only game that was non-competitive was against the Chargers (lost 30-13). They beat Detroit, won in Minnesota, destroyed a Falcons team that needed that win to win their division.

Their weighted DVOA was 11th in the league, emphasizing their second half was good enough to be a playoff quality team, even with a bottom 10 offense. They spent the offseason retooling that offense, adding a QB, 2 WRs and a RB, and I'm optimistic that can finally push them into the top half of teams offensively for the first time in nearly 20 years.

So yes, I'm optimistic about the team's chances this year.

All good points.  The schedule is also seemingly really solid this year too.  I do worry though about those games that they should have won and why they didn't.  And the possibility that Sweat gets hurt.  But you know me, I'm a worrier/pessimist.  I acknowledge there's tons to be optimistic/excited about as well.

Edited August 27, 2024 by UMFan83

[Hairyducked Idiot]

The idea of "cashing in" on Bagent is hilarious and awful.

I knew this would happen with Hard Knocks but it's still obnoxious.

Tyson Bagent is a really cool story and seems like a fun guy in the heavily edited HBO documentary that tries to make football players seem like fun guys.

He was brutal in the NFL last season.  It was good play for a udfa rookie from a d-ii school, but it wasn't even good play for a backup.  It was interesting because he showed a sharp contrast to some of fields' flaws that made it harder for some people to ignore, but it was awful 

I thought maybe i was too high on him because i think if they work on his mechanics he could become an actually good back up someday, and maybe there's like a 1% chance he becomes somebody important someday because that happens with qbs sometimes and nobody fully understands why.

 

But cash in on him? There's nothing to cash in on. He might not even be an average backup right now, give or take how much he improved in the offseason.  He made like two good plays in the preseason.  Nobody's giving you a fourth for tyson bagent.

Edited August 27, 2024 by Hairyducked Idiot

[Bobson Dugnutt]

Blasingame being cut combined with the Webster and Wheeler injuries seems to bode well for Velus making the 53-man.

[Old Style]

He did make it. 

[We Got The Whole 9]

It was pretty obvious he would.