Cardinals (Gibson) vs Cubs (Wicks): 6/14/24, 1:20pm

[UMFan83]

3 minutes ago, Irrelevant Dude said:

It works situationally, but if the plan to fix the Cubs offense long term is "more small ball" then we're in for even more disappointment.

Plus you have to be like good at situational hitting to be successful there.  Not like, you know, getting thrown out at home 293284538 times on a "go on contact" play.  And probably need to have a good bullpen because margins of games are going to more likely be closer.  Also have a team that plays good fundamental baseball with defense and baserunning.

The Cubs have none of the components needed to be a good small ball team outside of solid SP and Pete Crow Armstrong.

Edited June 14, 2024 by UMFan83

[cl smooth]

Too lazy go through 8 pages of game day thread posts so

[chibears55]

1 minute ago, Irrelevant Dude said:

It works situationally, but if the plan to fix the Cubs offense long term is "more small ball" then we're in for even more disappointment.

It not gonna fix it but it could help get them going .

Sometimes you gotta mix in that zig with a little zag.. 😅

[LBiittner]

11 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

Plus you have to be like good at situational hitting to be successful there.  Not like, you know, getting thrown out at home 293284538 times on a "go on contact" play.  And probably need to have a good bullpen because margins of games are going to more likely be closer.  Also have a team that plays good fundamental baseball with defense and baserunning.

The Cubs have none of the components needed to be a good small ball team outside of solid SP and Pete Crow Armstrong.

Chicks  dig the long ball. 

 

[Derwood]

Hayden giving up the homer doesn’t matter when you score zero runs

[Derwood]

Since their high water mark of 17-9, the Cubs have gone 16-28

[UMFan83]

1 minute ago, LBiittner said:

Chicks  dig the long ball. 

 

Wait we don't really do that either.

Basically all we do is get good starting pitching and let the offense and bullpen battle it out for who wants to be the primary reason for losing a given game.

[Andy]

In another fun subplot, St. Louis is now in second place and holds the third wild card. I'm completely blaming FanGraphs for waking Satan up and making him see his favorite team was struggling.

[LBiittner]

I understand in this generation, it's no longer socially correct to make such an inappropriate statement. But dammit, I love the long ball and I still think chicks dig them too

[UMFan83]

Just now, Derwood said:

Since their high water mark of 17-9, the Cubs have gone 16-28

[LBiittner]

Just now, UMFan83 said:

Wait we don't really do that either.

Basically all we do is get good starting pitching and let the offense and bullpen battle it out for who wants to be the primary reason for losing a given game.

Who would you consider to be our big thumper today? Our 40 homer guy?

[Derwood]

2 minutes ago, Derwood said:

Since their high water mark of 17-9, the Cubs have gone 16-28

20 of those 40 games were decided by 1 run. Cubs were 10-10 in those games. They were 6-18 in games decided by 2 or more runs. 

[Irrelevant Dude]

1 minute ago, LBiittner said:

Who would you consider to be our big thumper today? Our 40 homer guy?

You're missing Jed's grand strategy.  It's not about having a 40 homer guy.  It's all about accumulating as many 15 homer guys as you can to Voltron them into 40 homer guys.

[Cubs206]

It’s like they realized they don’t have it so they are tanking to get a better draft pick. 

[Soul]

It's the feast or famine offense.

[Tryptamine]

Just now, Irrelevant Dude said:

You're missing Jed's grand strategy.  It's not about having a 40 homer guy.  It's all about accumulating as many 15 homer guys as you can to Voltron them into 40 homer guys.

This is Jed's biggest flaw and it's a fatal flaw. He can put together a nice farm and he does pretty well in trades, However, he's pretty much dog water in FA and that flaw gets even more exposed because he's always chasing the 2nd and 3rd tier talents not the truly elite guys who perform consistently year after year and can carry a team through a slump. He wont pursue them in FA or trade. I mean, we're following a team whose marquee player is probably Cody Bellinger. 

[Soul]

5 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

This is Jed's biggest flaw and it's a fatal flaw. He can put together a nice farm and he does pretty well in trades, However, he's pretty much dog water in FA and that flaw gets even more exposed because he's always chasing the 2nd and 3rd tier talents not the truly elite guys who perform consistently year after year and can carry a team through a slump. He wont pursue them in FA or trade. I mean, we're following a team whose marquee player is probably Cody Bellinger. 

Who are we paying all the money to in order to be in the top 10 in salary?  There's a lot of dead weight on this roster.

[GoCubsGo1978]

1 hour ago, UMFan83 said:

Yeah but I mean its hard to beat all the big market teams in this division.  There's a reason we haven't won a division title in a full season since 2017 - just too many big market teams throwing their resources around.

I'm curious how Chicago is not a big market team?  What constitutes a big market team.  Genuinely curious...

[UMFan83]

3 minutes ago, GoCubsGo1978 said:

I'm curious how Chicago is not a big market team?  What constitutes a big market team.  Genuinely curious...

My post was dripping in sarcasm, its actually the opposite.  The Cubs are supposedly a large market team playing in a division with minnows and cant do anything about it.  The rest of baseball should be complaining how unfair it is for the Cubs to play in a division with a bunch of small market teams but they have no reason to.

[UMFan83]

29 minutes ago, Soul said:

Who are we paying all the money to in order to be in the top 10 in salary?  There's a lot of dead weight on this roster.

About 2/3rds of their active payroll is going to 6 players:

Dansby

Bellinger

Happ

Seiya

Taillon

Hendricks

They've combined for 3.6 fWAR this year.  Though in terms of how they rank on the team they are 5th (Swanson), 3rd (Bellinger), 7th (Happ), 6th (Seiya), 5th for pitchers (Taillon) and...23rd (Hendricks).

Edited June 14, 2024 by UMFan83

[Cubs420psd]

First full game I've watched in 3 weeks and I regret every second of it. 

 

Not only is this team terrible but they are ungodly boring.

Edited June 14, 2024 by Cubs420psd

[s2obed]

13 minutes ago, Cubs420psd said:

First full game I've watched in 3 weeks and I regret every second of it. 

 

Not only is this team terrible but they are ungodly boring.

Picked the wrong year to spend 2.5-3 hours on the Cubs. 

[InSeungHo]

Picked the wrong year to purchase season tickets. But at least they are in the bleachers and tourists will buy them anyway.

[Geographyhater8888]

55 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

About 2/3rds of their active payroll is going to 6 players:

Dansby

Bellinger

Happ

Seiya

Taillon

Hendricks

They've combined for 3.6 fWAR this year.  Though in terms of how they rank on the team they are 5th (Swanson), 3rd (Bellinger), 7th (Happ), 6th (Seiya), 5th for pitchers (Taillon) and...23rd (Hendricks).

$120 million for a projected 8.3 WAR. For 1/3rd of that Judge who’s on pace for a 12. Brilliant spending by Theo Epsteins freind.

[CubinNY]

17 hours ago, squally1313 said:

There's something really funny about watching Kyle "the worst pitcher in baseball history" Hendricks just mow down the Cardinals and then complaining about our offense. Offense is broken everywhere guys, league wide OBP is .311, we're bad at it but this is going to happen. 

Is that the narrative you’re going to use now to white wash this dreck.

Edited June 15, 2024 by CubinNY