Dodgers (Yamamoto) vs Cubs (Wicks): 4/6/24, 3:05pm, Marquee

[Andy]

1 minute ago, ToolDRT said:

Why Cuas here?

Because we have a limited quantity of good relievers and they can't pitch every game

[Transmogrified Tiger]

1 minute ago, ToolDRT said:

Why Cuas here?

Because you still need 4 more innings after this one after the pen threw 5 innings yesterday, and it was the start of a RHH dense portion of the lineup so you go with him to try and stop the bleeding against Hernandez and then then hopefully a few more outs unless he hits trouble or gets to Betts.  But if you walk Hernandez without challenging him then you have the one remaining LHH to get past and that burned them.

[UMFan83]

Just now, Andy said:

Because we have a limited quantity of good relievers and they can't pitch every game

It’s too bad there’s a limit to the number of good relievers teams are allowed to have. 
 

(yes I’m going there again)

[chopsx9]

Just now, Bertz said:

Letting a lefty face Teoscar Hernandez for a 3rd time would be a horrendous decision

Would it have been horrendouser than the result. He just struckout Betts and Freeman.  Sometimes you just got let a pitcher pitch.

[Irrelevant Dude]

1 minute ago, Bertz said:

Letting a lefty face Teoscar Hernandez for a 3rd time would be a horrendous decision

Also, Wicks was at his career high in pitches, barely a week into the season.  Not the time to push him.

[Bertz]

2 minutes ago, Bertz said:

Letting a lefty face Teoscar Hernandez for a 3rd time would be a horrendous decision

Just looked it up because I was curious and Hernandez is even more of a lefty masher than I realized.  This is his line against lefties the last three years:

.319/.351/.641

[PackLandVA]

5 minutes ago, ToolDRT said:

Why Cuas here?

BeCuas 

[Jason Ross]

6 minutes ago, ToolDRT said:

Why Cuas here?

Cuas is on the roster for exact this spot. His side arm sweeper/fastball combo is a recipe to be a RHH neutralizer. Teo has 35+ points of wRC+ more against LHP, much worse against RHP. Cuas is built for that. 

Yeah, the control is an issue. But if you're going to roster Cuas, that's exactly when you deploy him. We can talk about his rosterability with the command issues, but that's a different discussion, IMO.

[ToolDRT]

I think Cuas would be better suited starting his own inning is my thought. He’s too wild at times to get out of a jam. Oh well, not like we didn’t have offensive chances too. 

[PeanutPunch33]

Just now, Bertz said:

Just looked it up because I was curious and Hernandez is even more of a lefty masher than I realized.  This is his line against lefties the last three years:

.319/.351/.641

They had an open base.  What are Muncy's numbers the last 3 years vs left handed pitching? 

[Andy]

2 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

It’s too bad there’s a limit to the number of good relievers teams are allowed to have. 
 

(yes I’m going there again)

Don't worry, if we're lucky enough to be in the race in July we'll get more and maybe games like this won't bite us in the end

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Just now, chopsx9 said:

Would it have been horrendouser than the result. He just struckout Betts and Freeman.  Sometimes you just got let a pitcher pitch.

He was at a career high pitch count early in the season in cool weather, on top of Hernandez being a very bad matchup.  Cuas going BB, WP, 1B off the wall doesn't change the probabilities of the decision Counsell had to make.

[Bertz]

1 minute ago, chopsx9 said:

Would it have been horrendouser than the result. He just struckout Betts and Freeman.  Sometimes you just got let a pitcher pitch.

The whole point of signing the best manager in the game was to make sure we have someone in the dugout constantly making good process-oriented decisions.  He made a good one here unfortunately he got a bad dice roll.

[Jason Ross]

Yes. Good decisions can result in bad outcomes. Just like bad decisions can end in good outcomes. Counsell is hired to weigh the outcome chances, not be a psychic.

Going to Cuas makes sense process wise. That Cuas was completely worthless there was a Cuas issue and not a Counsell issue. 

[Dfan25]

Bringing in a righty for Teoscar was the right move with Wicks at a 100 pitches . Pitching to Muncy once he was down in count was not a smart move . Should have just walked him with a righty next .

[ToolDRT]

Their lineup is relentless. 

[chibears55]

2 minutes ago, Bertz said:

Letting a lefty face Teoscar Hernandez for a 3rd time would be a horrendous decision

Kid dealing and making big pitches, let him get out of his own situation there.

Outside of the 3 late inning relievers, they dont exactly have a reliable bullpen. 

[chopsx9]

1 minute ago, Transmogrified Tiger said:

He was at a career high pitch count early in the season in cool weather, on top of Hernandez being a very bad matchup.  Cuas going BB, WP, 1B off the wall doesn't change the probabilities of the decision Counsell had to make.

Were Freemen and Betts good match ups?  I get it,  I'm not saying it's an indefensible move but he just struck out two of the better hitters baseball, the bullpen is short - 5 more pitches to get out of the inning rather than bring in a new pitcher cold with runners on?  Sure live by the sword and die by the sword.

[ToolDRT]

Just now, Dfan25 said:

Bringing in a righty for Teoscar was the right move with Wicks at a 100 pitches . Pitching to Muncy once he was down in count was not a smart move . Should have just walked him with a righty next .

I know we’re limited, I’m just not sure he’s the righty I’d have brought in. He just has no control at times. It really is like Marmol. 

[Jason Ross]

Just now, Dfan25 said:

Bringing in a righty for Teoscar was the right move with Wicks at a 100 pitches . Pitching to Muncy once he was down in count was not a smart move . Should have just walked him with a righty next .

Eh, considering he couldn't find a competitive pitch in 4 of his first 5 throws, asking Cuas to deal with a bases loaded situation probably wasn't a super great choice in and of its own right. Even with a better match up, Cuas had shown no reliability to throw 3 strikes. Rock and a hard place once Cuas was that bad off the bat.

[squally1313]

1 minute ago, chibears55 said:

Kid dealing and making big pitches, let him get out of his own situation there.

Outside of the 3 late inning relievers, they dont exactly have a reliable bullpen. 

It’s the second start of the year. Like four dudes got scheduled for surgery today. It’s fine. 

[Transmogrified Tiger]

4 minutes ago, chopsx9 said:

Were Freemen and Betts good match ups?  I get it,  I'm not saying it's an indefensible move but he just struck out two of the better hitters baseball, the bullpen is short - 5 more pitches to get out of the inning rather than bring in a new pitcher cold with runners on?  Sure live by the sword and die by the sword.

Betts was the 2nd hitter of the inning and Wicks threw 16 pitches between Betts stepping to the plate and Wicks being pulled.  Freeman is a left on left matchup who was 0 for 2, and Wicks took 9 pitches to get him.  There exists a tipping point in game situation, pitch count, and opposing hitter where Wicks is no longer the best option, that tipping point was Hernandez.

[Andy]

Dansby strikes out on the 6th straight ball thrown in the AB

[CubinNY]

This ump is pissing me off. 

[Andy]

This ump is giving LA any pitch they want now I guess