Bears week 3 @ KC, Sunday 3:25 on FOX

[WrigleyField 22]

12 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

It's a bad gamble either way and should be a fireable offense if it happened. Which it didn't. 

There is no guarantee that they will be bad enough to be in the mix for whomever may be available in the next draft and it makes the team demonstrably worse in the season.

It doesn't have to be towards any specific 2024 plan. Picking a QB at 1 because that's what youre supposed to do when you have the #1 pick is pointless. If he didn't like those prospects you wait until your time.  There's about an equal chance of forcing your way into a spot to get a QB than needing a top 5 pick or whatever. The key is that it has to be the right QB and not letting circumstance aimlessly dictate when you make that big investment.

[CubinNY]

2 minutes ago, WrigleyField 22 said:

It doesn't have to be towards any specific 2024 plan. Picking a QB at 1 because that's what youre supposed to do when you have the #1 pick is pointless. If he didn't like those prospects you wait until your time.  There's about an equal chance of forcing your way into a spot to get a QB than needing a top 5 pick or whatever. The key is that it has to be the right QB and not letting circumstance aimlessly dictate when you make that big investment.

Except there is not an equal chance. 

[WrigleyField 22]

7 minutes ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

Yeah I'm all aboard the hate train for both poles and fields.

There's a hundred different paths poles could have taken since the day he took over.  I'm just not sorry we didn't take young.

I'm one of Poles earliest haters in some ways, once I realized what the 2022 plan was.

Maybe I've just had more time to be comfortable with my legitimate gripes on him now, but I find it hilarious the hard turn from the fanbase over two games. Probably all the bad things are a direct risk of the long term approach they took, so duh. But also any of the benefits of said approach haven't even had time to reap the possible dividends of it.

Edited September 20, 2023 by WrigleyField 22

[WrigleyField 22]

3 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

Except there is not an equal chance. 

You're right, probably slightly more likely that the QB is acquired from a spot outside the top 5.

[gflore34]

Here's a fucked up idea, 2023 another tank, with Eberflus, et. al., being the sacrificial lambs they were hired to be, hire Deon.  If there's anybody who sell Caleb Williams on being a Bear it sure as horsefeathers is Prime Time.

[WrigleyField 22]

3 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

Here's a fucked up idea, 2023 another tank, with Eberflus, et. al., being the sacrificial lambs they were hired to be, hire Deon.  If there's anybody who sell Caleb Williams on being a Bear it sure as horsefeathers is Prime Time.

Unfortunately it's still a big uphill battle to even get the #1.

So prime is gonna convince Caleb to play for Bears.  Who's gonna convince Prime to coach for Bears lol

 

But yea, if they get #1 again all on their own, all bets are off, but 2 games in and it's all very premature IMO.

[Brian707]

Bears are too conservative to even consider hiring Prime.

[gflore34]

4 minutes ago, WrigleyField 22 said:

Unfortunately it's still a big uphill battle to even get the #1.

So prime is gonna convince Caleb to play for Bears.  Who's gonna convince Prime to coach for Bears lol

 

But yea, if they get #1 again all on their own, all bets are off, but 2 games in and it's all very premature IMO.

First name - Dollar, last name - Bill.

[Tryptamine]

11 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

Here's a fucked up idea, 2023 another tank, with Eberflus, et. al., being the sacrificial lambs they were hired to be, hire Deon.  If there's anybody who sell Caleb Williams on being a Bear it sure as horsefeathers is Prime Time.

Deon is a college coach, He has charisma and name appeal that brings in top level recruits, but what has he done to prove he's an NFL level coach where recruiting means very little?

[gflore34]

2 minutes ago, Brian707 said:

Bears are too conservative to even consider hiring Prime.

I know it's a completely radical idea, the most realistic hope for the Bears is them being sold.

[gflore34]

1 minute ago, Tryptamine said:

Deon is a college coach, He has charisma and name appeal that brings in top level recruits, but what has he done to prove he's an NFL level coach where recruiting means very little?

Nothing, like I said a completely random and outrageous thought on my part.

[WrigleyField 22]

In all in honestly if Prime were the only hope to get Caleb to enter the draft and play for Bears then it doesn't matter, they're fucked.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

This game will feature the greatest disparity in career win percentage for starting QBs (.793 vs. .185) in modern NFL history, min. 25 starts.

[Tryptamine]

I never ever bet on sports, outside of a fantasy league I'm forced to join every year, but I just can't foresee any scenario in which the Bears keep it within 12 points. With KC at -12.5, I'm incredibly tempted.

[WrigleyField 22]

11 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

I never ever bet on sports, outside of a fantasy league I'm forced to join every year, but I just can't foresee any scenario in which the Bears keep it within 12 points. With KC at -12.5, I'm incredibly tempted.

I bet really small amount just for fun, but had a good week last week, making like $20 off $5 worth of bets.  I may just plow all those winnings into it because yolo. Worst case I'm still at where I was a week ago.

Edited September 20, 2023 by WrigleyField 22

[gflore34]

19 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

I never ever bet on sports, outside of a fantasy league I'm forced to join every year, but I just can't foresee any scenario in which the Bears keep it within 12 points. With KC at -12.5, I'm incredibly tempted.

Is asking the Bears to at least be competitive too much?  It's not as if they're completely devoid of any talent, managing to be competitive shouldn't be unrealistic.

[WrigleyField 22]

19 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

Is asking the Bears to at least be competitive too much?  It's not as if they're completely devoid of any talent, managing to be competitive shouldn't be unrealistic.

I would maybe wait on a status update on Alan Williams. On the off chance that the D just needed Flus scheming it to be non-terrible, maybe that 12.5 line isn't enough payoff (but try and do an alternate line at like 9.5 with a related parlay)

[gflore34]

Watched some analysis by Orlovsky, most especially on the route were Johnson, et. al. are wide open.  Fields loads up to throw, without question, he processes it, sees it, just doesn't throw the ball.  I'm not saying his pocket passing problems will disappear however, there's no question on some routes, plays he's seeing the correct things, just has to let it rip.  Justin if you're going to salvage you're career, you've got to hit the horsefeathers it button and let it rip.

[UMFan83]

24 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

Is asking the Bears to at least be competitive too much?  It's not as if they're completely devoid of any talent, managing to be competitive shouldn't be unrealistic.

Bears basically playing for their season.  Chiefs taking Bears lightly and playing with their food.  One quarter of garage time for Fields to get the Bears within 10.  I'd take Chiefs -12.5 but I don't think its free money

[Rex Buckingham]

Fields calling out Getsy

https://twitter.com/Schrock_And_Awe/status/1704524563067879545?s=20

Eberflus says Braxton Jones is headed to IR

Edited September 20, 2023 by Rex Buckingham

[minnesotacubsfan]

2 hours ago, WrigleyField 22 said:

I'm one of Poles earliest haters in some ways, once I realized what the 2022 plan was.

Maybe I've just had more time to be comfortable with my legitimate gripes on him now, but I find it hilarious the hard turn from the fanbase over two games. Probably all the bad things are a direct risk of the long term approach they took, so duh. But also any of the benefits of said approach haven't even had time to reap the possible dividends of it.

I dont think it was a hard turn, its always been lurking under the surface with many fans but there was just a point where the dam broke

 

 

[jumbo]

14 minutes ago, Rex Buckingham said:

Fields calling out Getsy

https://twitter.com/Schrock_And_Awe/status/1704524563067879545?s=20

Eberflus says Braxton Jones is headed to IR

So, Borom, presumably takes over LT

What's the over under on Chris Jones sacks?

[UMFan83]

19 minutes ago, Rex Buckingham said:

Fields calling out Getsy

https://twitter.com/Schrock_And_Awe/status/1704524563067879545?s=20

Eberflus says Braxton Jones is headed to IR

And he won't comment on whether he has spoken with Alan Williams or if Alan Williams is still the Bears DC

[The_Achiever]

I've heard Deion say he won't coach in the NFL because he doesn't think he can motivate guys who have already been paid.  

Could be an issue in college now too but I think he stays in college for now.  

[Hairyducked Idiot]

So they said maybe move wright to LT and I assume borom slots in at RT?

 

Maybe it will be worse but I'm not 100% sure it's worse