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Big Board based on the Bears needs/fit:

 

1. Teven Jenkins, OT, Oklahoma St. - top 20 player on my board, position of huge need

2. Elijah Moore, WR, Ole Miss - maybe best hands in draft, most productive, experienced slot guy with great speed, RAC ability

3. Samuel Cosmi, OT, Texas - prototype zone blocking LT, college coach is on Bears staff

4. Terrace Marshall, WR, LSU - big WR, looked great taking of Jordan Jefferson role last season at LSU. Can play slot or outside

5. Azeez Ojulari, Edge, Georgia - not a huge need, but my #2 edge rusher. Great fit in 3-4. Quinn cut candidate after 2021

6. Asante Samuel Jr, CB, Florida St. - clone of his dad who averaged 6.5 INTs per year in his prime

7. Dillon Radunz, OT, North Dakota St. - Athletic LT prospect w/ some nastiness. Low level of college competition

8. Trevon Moehrig, S, TCU - would pair with Jackson to give a strong coverage S duo, which would be nice w/ weak at CB

9. Liam Eichenberg, OT, Notre Dame - boring OT prospect, but ND guys typically translate, solid 8-year vet type

10. Rondale Moore, WR, Purdue - very fast & shifty, don't love the fit as his size/skillset is redundant to Cohen, but more speed = good

11. Daviyon Nixon, DL, Iowa - top 20 player on my board, could allow to cut Hicks for cap space, ton of potential

12. Jevon Holland, S, Oregon - another solid pair for Jackson, can cover the slot, opted out of 2020

13. Tyson Campbell, CB, Georgia - speedy, athletic corner who is a solid compliment to Johnson, like in Cover 3/off man

14. Kelvin Joseph, CB, Kentucky - same description as Campbell, more swagger, but also moonlights as a rapper

15. Dyami Brown, WR, North Carolina- don't love the fit, as he's not really a slot guy, would move ARob there on 3WR sets, but deep ball threat that meshes well with Fields' skillset.

 

There are several players I have rated higher than some of this list, but I don't deem them as good fits or needs (LBs, RBs, RTs), so it's very possible the Bears will have their pick of a couple of these guys. I think the Bears will go 3 ways in the 2nd round: WR, CB, or OT. I'm leaning OT, especially if one of the 4 listed are on the board. I'd cut Leno after June 1 and have the cap space to sign all the draft picks. But if Elijah Moore or Samuel Jr. are on the board, I think they are good enough to justify waiting on OT. I could also see them trading back from 52, if the steals are gone (top 5 listed), and recouping either the 4th or 5th they don't have.

 

Nice list. I like Eskridge more than Brown at the end but can’t quibble.

 

I’d trade down unless Jenkins or E. Moore somehow are still available at 52 (you can’t pass up that type of talent at a position of need).

 

Guess you can also trade Anthony Miller for draft capital.

 

I have Eskridge ranked higher too. And the Bears supposedly love him from rumors last week. But I considered him more as a trade down candidate based on the board than the pick at 52. I see those other WRs going before him, rightly or not.

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I would love for ASJ to fall to us. Loved his father's game.

 

Yeah, he's a perfect fit. Ballhawking off-man/zone corner with good instincts and obviously bloodlines. Also seems like a guy that would perform well with the talent that would surround him on this defense vs. what he had with a bunch of underachievers at FSU.

 

But I'm a big proponent of after taking a QB early, you either protect him or give him a target with the next pick.

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I would love for ASJ to fall to us. Loved his father's game.

 

Yeah, he's a perfect fit. Ballhawking off-man/zone corner with good instincts and obviously bloodlines. Also seems like a guy that would perform well with the talent that would surround him on this defense vs. what he had with a bunch of underachievers at FSU.

 

But I'm a big proponent of after taking a QB early, you either protect him or give him a target with the next pick.

 

I know it's a simplistic mentality but I'm just wanting them to take the top OT on the board.

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I could get used to this waking up after day 1 of the draft feeling really good.

Don't get too used to it. Won't happen next year.

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I would love for ASJ to fall to us. Loved his father's game.

 

Yeah, he's a perfect fit. Ballhawking off-man/zone corner with good instincts and obviously bloodlines. Also seems like a guy that would perform well with the talent that would surround him on this defense vs. what he had with a bunch of underachievers at FSU.

 

But I'm a big proponent of after taking a QB early, you either protect him or give him a target with the next pick.

Thats usually prudent when a team doesn't already have a Robinson and a Mooney. I'd be totally fine with an OT. But, our CB depth is thin and if Johnson gets hurt again we will get roasted.

 

I put CB above WR as a need easily

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I could get used to this waking up after day 1 of the draft feeling really good.

Don't get too used to it. Won't happen next year.

 

Ahh yeah, you're right.

 

If Fields is as good as I think he will be, I'll feel OK about things after day 1 next year.

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Believe baby. The only downside is they disappoint you, which... Hey were well practiced in that art.

 

Sadly thats how I feel but its true. If he sucks, oh well throw him on the pile of failed QBs. Hard to build a winning franchise when you make one 1st round pick in 4 years and that pick is a bust, but oh well. The upside is worth it

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I want to believe

Believe baby. The only downside is they disappoint you, which... Hey were well practiced in that art.

 

Sadly thats how I feel but its true. If he sucks, oh well throw him on the pile of failed QBs. Hard to build a franchise when you make 1 1st round pick in 4 years and that pick is a bust, but oh well. The upside is worth it

For me, it's specifically about Fields. If it was Lance or Jones, I'd say, well, hope for the best and expect the worst!

 

With Fields, I'm expecting the best. LFG.

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Yea. Fields fell in the draft and it's crazy because most years, a QB like him would be the #1 pick. This year, I liked him better then both Lance and Wilson.

 

He was the consensus #2 (almost 1b to Lawerence) at this point last year and nothing really happened negatively to Fields or positively with Lance/Wilson that changed that in my eyes. I love this so much.

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FanDuel odds of Bears next pick:

 

OL (-160)

WR (+250)

CB (+600)

Safety (+600)

DL (+750)

LB (+1600)

RB (+5000)

TE (+6000)

QB (+25000)

K/P/Snapper (+25000)

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FanDuel odds of Bears next pick:

 

OL (-160)

WR (+250)

CB (+600)

Safety (+600)

DL (+750)

LB (+1600)

RB (+5000)

TE (+6000)

QB (+25000)

K/P/Snapper (+25000)

 

I almost want to get in on that +6000 TE option. Pace loves him some 2nd round TE action

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Raw, how do you rank the RT that are left?

 

Specifically RT? I don't typically distinguish between left or right T unless I'm talking about fit for the Bears specifically. I think any tackle can play the right side, but not all can play left. And interestingly enough, I actually think LT is more of a need than RT. I think Ifedi at 4.5Mil is starting at RT. The ideal scenario would be getting a LT and cutting Leno to have money to sign the draft picks. But anyway, I guess I'd say:

 

1. Teven Jenkins - RT exclusively at Okla St, but think he could play LT

2. Samuel Cosmi - more of a LT, but played RT early at Texas

3. Jalen Mayfield - 20 year old, raw talent, not super athletic, maybe a guard?

4. Dillon Radunz- more of a LT, blocked for Trey Lance in college

5. Liam Eichenberg

6. Spencer Brown - 6'9" freak athlete, but very raw from FCS Northern Iowa

7. Walker Little - former 5* recruit, dealt with injuries and opt out, if healthy had potential to be a top 10 pick, but played 1 game since 2018 season.

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Some interesting pre-draft stuff from a 49ers blog about Fields: https://www.ninersnation.com/2021/4/29/22408286/film-room-breaking-down-justin-fields

 

The catalyst for [talk of Fields being a one read QB] is a report from ESPN analyst Todd McShay who regurgitated a stat that said Fields only progressed to his second read seven times in 200 throws, and he mentioned the “research” was done by scouts for an NFL team. That’s bizarre, if not downright alarming and reckless considering most serious and credible analysts can show you more than seven throws.

 

In his study of the draft quarterbacks progressing beyond their first reads, The Draft Network’s Benjamin Solak charted Fields progressing beyond his first read on 19.09% of his passes while Mac Jones actually came in last at 9.72%.

 

Theres some really good film breakdown of Fields going through progressions etc

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Some interesting pre-draft stuff from a 49ers blog about Fields: https://www.ninersnation.com/2021/4/29/22408286/film-room-breaking-down-justin-fields

 

The catalyst for [talk of Fields being a one read QB] is a report from ESPN analyst Todd McShay who regurgitated a stat that said Fields only progressed to his second read seven times in 200 throws, and he mentioned the “research” was done by scouts for an NFL team. That’s bizarre, if not downright alarming and reckless considering most serious and credible analysts can show you more than seven throws.

 

In his study of the draft quarterbacks progressing beyond their first reads, The Draft Network’s Benjamin Solak charted Fields progressing beyond his first read on 19.09% of his passes while Mac Jones actually came in last at 9.72%.

 

Theres some really good film breakdown of Fields going through progressions etc

Props to the Bears scouts for planting stories to facilitate the drop

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