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My final Bears mock:

 

20. Justin Fields, QB Ohio State

52. Kellen Mond, QB Texas A&M

83. Davis Mills, QB Stanford

164. Jamie Newman, QB Wake Forest

204. Sam Ehlinger, QB Texas

208. Brady White, QB Memphis

221. KJ Costello, QB Mississippi State

228. Peyton Ramsey, QB Northwestern

 

Adam Hoge's mock has the Bears taking 2 QBs, Mond (trading back to 25) and Feleipe Franks in the 6th

 

Damnit, I was joking when I said the Bears would trade to get Mond earlier in this thread.

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For anyone that cares. My offensive rankings at each position (top 5 rounds or so):

 

QB

1. Trevor Lawrence (top 1)

2. Justin Fields (top 3)

3a. Zach Wilson (top 15)

3b. Trey Lance (top 15)

5. Mac Jones (2nd round)

6. Kellen Mond (3rd)

7. Davis Mills (4th)

8. Kyle Trask (4th)

9. Jamie Newman (5th)

 

All other QBs are 6th-UDFA. Best of the rest: Felipe Franks, Brady White, Shane Buechele

 

RB

1. Najee Harris (1st round)

2. Travis Etienne (late 1, early 2)

3. Javonte Williams (2nd)

4. Michael Carter (2nd)

5. Kenneth Gainwell (3rd)

6. Demetric Felton (4th)

7. Trey Sermon (4th)

8. Jermar Jefferson (4th)

9. Khalil Herbert (5th)

10. Chuba Hubbard (5th)

11. Kylin Hill (5th)

12. Rhamondre Stevenson (5th)

13. Jaret Patterson (5th)

 

Rest are all 6th-UDFA

 

WR

1. Jamarr Chase (top 10)

2. Devonta Smith (top 15)

3. Jaylen Waddle (top 15)

4. Rashod Bateman (top 20)

5. Elijah Moore (1st round)

6. Terrace Marshall (2nd)

7. Rondale Moore (2nd)

8. Kadarius Toney (2nd)

9. D'Wayne Eskridge (late 2, early 3)

10. Amon-Ra St. Brown (3rd)

11. Dyami Brown (3rd)

12. Tylan Wallace (3rd)

13. Amari Rodgers (4th)

14. Ihmir Smith-Marsette (4th)

15. Josh Imatorbhebhe (4th)

 

There's about 10 more guys I have in the 4th-5th range, not going to list them all.

 

TE

1. Kyle Pitts (top 5)

2. Pat Friermuth (late 2nd, early 3)

3. Brevin Jordan (3rd)

4. Tommy Tremble (3rd)

5. Hunter Long (3rd)

6. Kenny Yeboah (4th)

7. Zach Davidson (5th)

8. Noah Gray (5th)

9. Trey McKitty (5th)

10. Shaun Beyer (5th)

 

OT

1. Penei Sewell (top 5)

2. Christian Darrisaw (top 10)

3. Samuel Cosmi (top 25)

4. Rashawn Slater (top 25)

5. Teven Jenkins (top 25)

6. Jalen Mayfield (2nd)

7. Dillon Radunz (2nd)

8. Liam Eichenberg (2nd)

9. Brady Christensen (late 2, early 3)

10. D'Ante Smith (3rd)

11. Alex Leatherwood (3rd)

12. James Hudson (3rd)

13. Spencer Brown (3rd)

14. Stone Forsythe (late 3, early 4)

15. Walker Little (late 3, early 4)

16. Jackson Carman (4th)

 

Bunch of guys in the 5th round range.

 

Interior OL

1. Alijah Vera-Tucker (top 25)

2. Creed Humphrey (late 1, early 2)

3. Trey Smith (2nd)

4. Landon Dickerson (2nd)

5. Wyatt Davis (2nd)

6. Josh Myers (3rd)

7. Quinn Meinerz (3rd)

8. Deonte Brown (3rd)

9. Ben Cleveland (4th)

10. Kendrick Green (4th)

11. David Moore (5th)

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Defensive position rankings

 

Edge

1. Jaelan Phillips (top 20)

2. Azeez Ojulari (top 25)

3. Joseph Ossai (late 1, early 2)

4. Kwity Paye (late 1, early 2)

5. Carlos Basham (2nd)

6. Dayo Oyedingbo (2nd)

7. Jayson Oweh (3rd)

8. Hamilcar Rashed (3rd)

9. Ronnie Perkins (3rd)

10. Quincy Roche (3rd)

11. Gregory Rousseau (3rd)

12. Payton Turner (4th)

13. Joe Tryon (4th)

14. Elerson Smith (4th)

 

A few players in the 5th round range.

 

DL

1. Daviyon Nixon (top 20)

2. Christian Barmore (late 1, early 2)

3. Jay Tufele (2nd)

4. Alim McNeill (late 2, early 3)

5. Bobby Brown III (3rd)

6. Osa Odigizuwha (3rd)

7. Tommy Togiai (3rd)

8. Milton Williams (3rd)

9. Tedarrell Slaton (4th)

10. Tyler Shelvin (4th)

11. Darius Stills (4th)

12. Marvin Wilson (4th)

 

A couple players in the 5th round range.

 

Off Ball LB

1. Micah Parsons (top 15)

2. Zaven Collins (top 20)

3. Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah (late 1, early 2)

4. Nick Bolton (2nd)

5. Jabril Cox (2nd)

6. Jamin Davis (2nd)

7. Baron Browning (late 2, early 3)

8. Chazz Surratt (late 3, early 4)

9. Dylan Moses (4th)

10. Cameron McGrone (4th)

 

CB

1. Patrick Surtain II (top 15)

2. Caleb Farley (top 20)

3. Jaycee Horn (top 20)

4. Greg Newsome II (1st)

5. Elijah Molden (2nd)

6. Asante Samuel Jr (2nd)

7. Kelvin Joseph (2nd)

8. Tyson Campbell (2nd)

9. Aaron Robinson (2nd)

10. Paulson Adebo (3rd)

11. Ifeatu Melifonwu (3rd)

12. Thomas Graham Jr (late 3, early 4)

13. Eric Stokes (4th)

14. Kary Vincent Jr (4th)

 

Safety

1. Jevon Holland (2nd)

2. Richie Grant (2nd)

3. Trevon Moehrig (2nd)

4. Shaun Wade (3rd)

5. Jamar Johnson (3rd)

6. Caden Stearns (4th)

7. Hamsah Nasrildeen (4th)

8. Talanoa Hufanga (5th)

9. James Wiggins (5th)

10. Andre Cisco (5th)

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11. Gregory Rousseau (3rd)

 

 

I thought he was expected to go 1st rd..?

 

I don't think he will. Mainly because he sucks.

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Seems like there’s some consensus when looking across multiple mocks:

 

OT Teven Jenkins

CB Greg Newsome

 

I’d love a new QB but hate the idea that Pace would be the guy to make that pick.

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If this night ends in Justin Fields as a Bear and Aaron Rodgers not a Packer, I will post a full frontal nude on Facebook and tag my entire family.
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So, I was thinking out loud earlier today and posted this on another board

 

In theory, if the Bears got Fields, they would have a young, cheap QB and can pay Robinson what he wants to give Fields a go-to WR. But part of me wonders if it would have the opposite effect. It kind of feels like the Bears could go a few different ways with the offense depending on the QB position.

 

If they don't move up for a QB, I think they go forward with Dalton to Robinson and shore up CB and then depth (WR, OL, developmental QB) and hope for another wildcard push.

 

But if they do get Fields, I wonder if it might trigger moves in a different direction. They literally cannot sign their draft class unless they get rid of 1 of their big salaries. Graham seems expendable in a Dalton led offense. He's a vet QB that would still have his go-to guy in ARob. He's never really been a big "rely on your TE" type of QB other than the 1 year Tyler Eifert was good. But with Fields, I wonder if they would trade Robinson and go for a more vertical passing attack which plays to his strengths. They could recoup the Day 2 pick (3rd) they'd have to give up to get Fields. They can add a speedy WR on Day 2 and then another guy late (think they may do this anyway). But a WR corps of Mooney, Goodwin, someone like Rondale Moore/Dwayne Eskridge, and then a Day 3 guy like Trevon Grimes plays right into the type of skill guys Fields had at Ohio St. Graham and Kmet still there to help out the young QB as safety valves. Gives them killer size in the redzone and killer speed everywhere else.

 

Dolphins got a 3rd and 5th for Landry. ARob is clearly better. Wonder if they could get two 3rds. Or if the Ravens would do something like pick 31 and a 4th for ARob and the 52nd pick. Sorry, my mind is going crazy. Can't wait for tonight. Can't even imagine Pace is thinking that far ahead.

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I'm actually a little shocked they only gave up 1 1st rd pick for Fields. Sure, there where other latter picks, but 1 high round pick (next years, they just swapped this years) to draft a QB many thought could have been an easy #2 (after the best QB prospect in what, 10 years?)
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Well, they managed to draft Fields, could it be, for the first time in Bears history, they got the fellow who'll turn out to be the best QB of the 2021 Draft? Someone the Bears maybe, not so much the Bears, but the fans and press can rub in the faces of the 49ers and Jets? That would be utterly shocking...
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Big Board based on the Bears needs/fit:

 

1. Teven Jenkins, OT, Oklahoma St. - top 20 player on my board, position of huge need

2. Elijah Moore, WR, Ole Miss - maybe best hands in draft, most productive, experienced slot guy with great speed, RAC ability

3. Samuel Cosmi, OT, Texas - prototype zone blocking LT, college coach is on Bears staff

4. Terrace Marshall, WR, LSU - big WR, looked great taking of Jordan Jefferson role last season at LSU. Can play slot or outside

5. Azeez Ojulari, Edge, Georgia - not a huge need, but my #2 edge rusher. Great fit in 3-4. Quinn cut candidate after 2021

6. Asante Samuel Jr, CB, Florida St. - clone of his dad who averaged 6.5 INTs per year in his prime

7. Dillon Radunz, OT, North Dakota St. - Athletic LT prospect w/ some nastiness. Low level of college competition

8. Trevon Moehrig, S, TCU - would pair with Jackson to give a strong coverage S duo, which would be nice w/ weak at CB

9. Liam Eichenberg, OT, Notre Dame - boring OT prospect, but ND guys typically translate, solid 8-year vet type

10. Rondale Moore, WR, Purdue - very fast & shifty, don't love the fit as his size/skillset is redundant to Cohen, but more speed = good

11. Daviyon Nixon, DL, Iowa - top 20 player on my board, could allow to cut Hicks for cap space, ton of potential

12. Jevon Holland, S, Oregon - another solid pair for Jackson, can cover the slot, opted out of 2020

13. Tyson Campbell, CB, Georgia - speedy, athletic corner who is a solid compliment to Johnson, like in Cover 3/off man

14. Kelvin Joseph, CB, Kentucky - same description as Campbell, more swagger, but also moonlights as a rapper

15. Dyami Brown, WR, North Carolina- don't love the fit, as he's not really a slot guy, would move ARob there on 3WR sets, but deep ball threat that meshes well with Fields' skillset.

 

There are several players I have rated higher than some of this list, but I don't deem them as good fits or needs (LBs, RBs, RTs), so it's very possible the Bears will have their pick of a couple of these guys. I think the Bears will go 3 ways in the 2nd round: WR, CB, or OT. I'm leaning OT, especially if one of the 4 listed are on the board. I'd cut Leno after June 1 and have the cap space to sign all the draft picks. But if Elijah Moore or Samuel Jr. are on the board, I think they are good enough to justify waiting on OT. I could also see them trading back from 52, if the steals are gone (top 5 listed), and recouping either the 4th or 5th they don't have.

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Big Board based on the Bears needs/fit:

 

1. Teven Jenkins, OT, Oklahoma St. - top 20 player on my board, position of huge need

2. Elijah Moore, WR, Ole Miss - maybe best hands in draft, most productive, experienced slot guy with great speed, RAC ability

3. Samuel Cosmi, OT, Texas - prototype zone blocking LT, college coach is on Bears staff

4. Terrace Marshall, WR, LSU - big WR, looked great taking of Jordan Jefferson role last season at LSU. Can play slot or outside

5. Azeez Ojulari, Edge, Georgia - not a huge need, but my #2 edge rusher. Great fit in 3-4. Quinn cut candidate after 2021

6. Asante Samuel Jr, CB, Florida St. - clone of his dad who averaged 6.5 INTs per year in his prime

7. Dillon Radunz, OT, North Dakota St. - Athletic LT prospect w/ some nastiness. Low level of college competition

8. Trevon Moehrig, S, TCU - would pair with Jackson to give a strong coverage S duo, which would be nice w/ weak at CB

9. Liam Eichenberg, OT, Notre Dame - boring OT prospect, but ND guys typically translate, solid 8-year vet type

10. Rondale Moore, WR, Purdue - very fast & shifty, don't love the fit as his size/skillset is redundant to Cohen, but more speed = good

11. Daviyon Nixon, DL, Iowa - top 20 player on my board, could allow to cut Hicks for cap space, ton of potential

12. Jevon Holland, S, Oregon - another solid pair for Jackson, can cover the slot, opted out of 2020

13. Tyson Campbell, CB, Georgia - speedy, athletic corner who is a solid compliment to Johnson, like in Cover 3/off man

14. Kelvin Joseph, CB, Kentucky - same description as Campbell, more swagger, but also moonlights as a rapper

15. Dyami Brown, WR, North Carolina- don't love the fit, as he's not really a slot guy, would move ARob there on 3WR sets, but deep ball threat that meshes well with Fields' skillset.

 

There are several players I have rated higher than some of this list, but I don't deem them as good fits or needs (LBs, RBs, RTs), so it's very possible the Bears will have their pick of a couple of these guys. I think the Bears will go 3 ways in the 2nd round: WR, CB, or OT. I'm leaning OT, especially if one of the 4 listed are on the board. I'd cut Leno after June 1 and have the cap space to sign all the draft picks. But if Elijah Moore or Samuel Jr. are on the board, I think they are good enough to justify waiting on OT. I could also see them trading back from 52, if the steals are gone (top 5 listed), and recouping either the 4th or 5th they don't have.

 

Nice list. I like Eskridge more than Brown at the end but can’t quibble.

 

I’d trade down unless Jenkins or E. Moore somehow are still available at 52 (you can’t pass up that type of talent at a position of need).

 

Guess you can also trade Anthony Miller for draft capital.

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