Are we getting Black Monday II? No, but we got a Black QB!!!

[jersey cubs fan]

But at least maybe there's a logical plan happening with some of these cuts and signings (reinvesting from the D to the O)

 

 

That is what I was saying yesterday. It could be that the focus is on the Bears fixing the QB/offense. They don't need to win more games, they need to score more points. So go all in with offense, sign and draft QBs, acquire more skill position guys, do whatever you can to score more points in 2021. If you create a real offense, then go patch up the defense next.

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Also looks like they did include void years for Dalton. So only a 5.5m cap hit for 2021.

 

I know many will complain about kicking the can down the road, but as long as you're going for it, might as well maximize the effort. Squeeze whatever you can to build the best 2021 team. Don't like half ass a 2021 effort.

[Bertz]

"I have limited resources, and feel really good about my ability to coach up defense, so I'm going to concentrate my resources on offense" is ironically the same exact thing Jed Hoyer is trying.

 

Jed has earned a benefit of the doubt with me that Pace hasn't, and I'm already annoyed with the particulars, but it's not a bad plan.

[raw]

But at least maybe there's a logical plan happening with some of these cuts and signings (reinvesting from the D to the O)

 

 

That is what I was saying yesterday. It could be that the focus is on the Bears fixing the QB/offense. They don't need to win more games, they need to score more points. So go all in with offense, sign and draft QBs, acquire more skill position guys, do whatever you can to score more points in 2021. If you create a real offense, then go patch up the defense next.

 

Like I said, getting rid of Fuller and/or Hicks is fine on the surface. It's logical. It makes sense. The issue is "going all in with offense" so far is Andy Dalton and Germain Ifedi. They are literally NO better on offense right now, and are down 2 roster spots and 10M in 2021 cap. Dalton was worse than Trubisky and Foles. Ifedi was already a 16-game starter on a below average OL.

 

I know Andy Dalton isn't the end game here. But even if they get Golladay to sign here, Golladay, Robinson, Mooney, Graham, Kmet, Cohen, Montgomery isn't like to score enough with Dalton, a still bad OL, and Nagy as coach/playcaller. And at this point, the Bears are either going to upgrade at tackle or at QB, probably not both, especially if they end up with Golladay. They are either going to somehow still get Wilson/Watson and then not have a draft pick for OT. Or they are going to move up in the draft for a QB, and not have a pick for OT. Or they are going to get an OT in the draft and roll with Dalton. The only way this ends in an offense that scores more points is if they get Wilson/Watson or if they decide to cut Leno, get a cheap improvement at OT and the rookie QB comes in and is great. Maybe an outside shot if they get Golladay and trade Robinson for draft picks good enough to get everything they want, but then WR is a lateral difference from last year.

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The CB room has health questions.

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Pace working the trade block still?

[raw]

I understand cost was a concern and Trufant is on a 1-year deal, but it was said in this thread that not extending or cutting a 30-year old CB is a wise move (paraphrasing). Trufant will turn 31 early in the season. Fuller is 29 until after the 2021 season. So, the Bears actually got a year and a half older at the CB position.

[raw]

 

There's no way I would pay 30Mil (Arob 18, KG 12) to the WR position, even if just for 1 year. This has to mean trade for Robinson if Golladay signs that offer.

 

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There's no way I would pay 30Mil (Arob 18, KG 12) to the WR position, even if just for 1 year. This has to mean trade for Robinson if Golladay signs that offer.

 

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Biggs had already claimed their plan is to pair them.

[raw]

There's no way I would pay 30Mil (Arob 18, KG 12) to the WR position, even if just for 1 year. This has to mean trade for Robinson if Golladay signs that offer.

 

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Biggs had already claimed their plan is to pair them.

 

Yeah, I'm aware. That doesn't mean he's right. Nor does it make it a wise move. Though, getting 2 3rd round comp picks if both sign elsewhere would be phenomenal.

[WrigleyField 22]

There's no way I would pay 30Mil (Arob 18, KG 12) to the WR position, even if just for 1 year. This has to mean trade for Robinson if Golladay signs that offer.

 

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Biggs had already claimed their plan is to pair them.

 

Yeah, I'm aware. That doesn't mean he's right. Nor does it make it a wise move. Though, getting 2 3rd round comp picks if both sign elsewhere would be phenomenal.

As far as whether its smart or not, okay.

 

Whether Biggs has good info? Pretty likely. He's usually solid when he reports.

[Derwood]

So he’s choosing between Dalton, Burrow, Jackson or Jones? Can’t imagine he’d choose Dalton, even for extra $$

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So he’s choosing between Dalton, Burrow, Jackson or Jones? Can’t imagine he’d choose Dalton, even for extra $$

Maybe some hometown pull. He is a Chicago kid.

[raw]

Biggs had already claimed their plan is to pair them.

 

Yeah, I'm aware. That doesn't mean he's right. Nor does it make it a wise move. Though, getting 2 3rd round comp picks if both sign elsewhere would be phenomenal.

As far as whether its smart or not, okay.

 

Whether Biggs has good info? Pretty likely. He's usually solid when he reports.

 

The info that they plan to play Golladay with Robinson came out yesterday. At the point it came out yesterday, Robinson had yet to sign the tag. The info could have been put out there so Robinson wouldn't rush to sign the tag (thinking he was part of a tandem instead of being replaced), and they could hedge their bets and rescind it if they got Golladay.

 

Maybe I shouldn't have said "doesn't mean he's right" and should have said, "doesn't mean that's in stone". It honestly doesn't make much sense as both are X WRs, and Mooney is the (potential) long-term answer at Z. One of the 3 would move to the slot full-time, which probably isn't ideal for any of them.

[minnesotacubsfan]

The idea that Pace is playing chess with the top of the market at wr is bonkers to me raw

[d_money]

The idea that Pace is playing chess with the top of the market at wr is bonkers to me raw

All other GMs are playing chess. Pace is playing Connect 4.

[minnesotacubsfan]

The idea that Pace is playing chess with the top of the market at wr is bonkers to me raw

All other GMs are playing chess. Pace is playing Connect 4.

If both wr's restructure to play together and someone comes along who can actually pass, fun!

 

If we end up with two $12 mil (+) Wrs and horsefeathering Andy Dalton overthrowing them, can we demand McCaskey gives up ownership

[minnesotacubsfan]

I mean if Seattle won't give up someone for what the Bears offered, maybe Dallas would?

[CaliforniaRaisin]

 

Pretty ridiculous Pace played this so he couldn’t even get a Day 3 draft pick for a Pro Bowl CB.

 

[Bertz]

[raw]

Not a fan of keeping Hicks over Fuller. Hicks is 2 1/2 years older, and a 330 pounder, who has missed 9 games the last 2 years.

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Not a fan of keeping Hicks over Fuller. Hicks is 2 1/2 years older, and a 330 pounder, who has missed 9 games the last 2 years.

Yup. I'm on board with making tough decisions, but this seems like the wrong tough decision.

[Soul]

Not a fan of keeping Hicks over Fuller. Hicks is 2 1/2 years older, and a 330 pounder, who has missed 9 games the last 2 years.

When he’s out the D looks so much worse though. Not sure I can say that about Fuller.

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Not a fan of keeping Hicks over Fuller. Hicks is 2 1/2 years older, and a 330 pounder, who has missed 9 games the last 2 years.

When he’s out the D looks so much worse though. Not sure I can say that about Fuller.

You can't say it about Fuller since he's been healthy since the one season he missed.

[Soul]

 

Pretty ridiculous Pace played this so he couldn’t even get a Day 3 draft pick for a Pro Bowl CB.

 

Ridiculous is what Pace does.