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This has kind of been hinted at a few times this offseason. They were cool with going all in for Wilson, but not so much for an unproven rookie. It makes sense on paper, but the principle of it all is terrible.

 

That being said, Ben Allbright, who seems to be pretty connected says that he thinks Fields may still be on the board into the teens. If the Bears don't feel comfortable trading to 6 or 8, and he could be on the board at 13 or so, I could see the Bears jumping in front of NE to grab Fields and it wouldn't cost too much. That being said, that totally requires the football Gods smiling down on the Bears for the first time literally ever so....

 

I'm amazed at how Fields has fallen from clear #2 pick at the start of the college football season to fourth or fifth QB on the board. Wilson seems awesome, but he did it for one season against weak competition. Jones seems to have a limited ceiling compared to the other four in his athleticism, and also did it for one season with an NFL roster around him. Lance hasn't played since 2019 and started for one season, too.

Fields has had some awful games, but he also balled out against Clemson after taking that big hit. If he fells to 13 somehow I would expect Pace to go up and get him. And I'd be hapy about it. Not sure what it would take to get there, maybe a 2nd and next years first?

 

What is the biggest reservation people have with Fields? I've read something about how he went to his first option like 85% of the time last season or something so there were questions about his ability to go through progressions in the NFL when the defenses are faster and the first option isn't always open like at OSU, but that's about it. Athleticism, arm strength, accruacy all see 90+ percentile. There is discussion about social biases in place and its a fair discussion but anything else from a pure football standpoint that is giving these teams pause?

 

After Trubisky, the red flag around the ability to quickly go through progressions must be the reddest of red flags for the Bears and especially Pace, no? So, given this, I guess the question is he capable of learning what Mitch never could?

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This has kind of been hinted at a few times this offseason. They were cool with going all in for Wilson, but not so much for an unproven rookie. It makes sense on paper, but the principle of it all is terrible.

 

That being said, Ben Allbright, who seems to be pretty connected says that he thinks Fields may still be on the board into the teens. If the Bears don't feel comfortable trading to 6 or 8, and he could be on the board at 13 or so, I could see the Bears jumping in front of NE to grab Fields and it wouldn't cost too much. That being said, that totally requires the football Gods smiling down on the Bears for the first time literally ever so....

 

I'm amazed at how Fields has fallen from clear #2 pick at the start of the college football season to fourth or fifth QB on the board. Wilson seems awesome, but he did it for one season against weak competition. Jones seems to have a limited ceiling compared to the other four in his athleticism, and also did it for one season with an NFL roster around him. Lance hasn't played since 2019 and started for one season, too.

Fields has had some awful games, but he also balled out against Clemson after taking that big hit. If he fells to 13 somehow I would expect Pace to go up and get him. And I'd be hapy about it. Not sure what it would take to get there, maybe a 2nd and next years first?

 

What is the biggest reservation people have with Fields? I've read something about how he went to his first option like 85% of the time last season or something so there were questions about his ability to go through progressions in the NFL when the defenses are faster and the first option isn't always open like at OSU, but that's about it. Athleticism, arm strength, accruacy all see 90+ percentile. There is discussion about social biases in place and its a fair discussion but anything else from a pure football standpoint that is giving these teams pause?

 

Herbert was largely a one read guy in college too and looks fantastic doing a lot more now in the NFL. You don't know what a guy can do in a different offense, tasked with more responsibility until he actually tries it. I'd rather take the skills and traits though (not that I think the Bears will get Fields).

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I'm amazed at how Fields has fallen from clear #2 pick at the start of the college football season to fourth or fifth QB on the board. Wilson seems awesome, but he did it for one season against weak competition. Jones seems to have a limited ceiling compared to the other four in his athleticism, and also did it for one season with an NFL roster around him. Lance hasn't played since 2019 and started for one season, too.

Fields has had some awful games, but he also balled out against Clemson after taking that big hit. If he fells to 13 somehow I would expect Pace to go up and get him. And I'd be hapy about it. Not sure what it would take to get there, maybe a 2nd and next years first?

 

What is the biggest reservation people have with Fields? I've read something about how he went to his first option like 85% of the time last season or something so there were questions about his ability to go through progressions in the NFL when the defenses are faster and the first option isn't always open like at OSU, but that's about it. Athleticism, arm strength, accruacy all see 90+ percentile. There is discussion about social biases in place and its a fair discussion but anything else from a pure football standpoint that is giving these teams pause?

 

After Trubisky, the red flag around the ability to quickly go through progressions must be the reddest of red flags for the Bears and especially Pace, no? So, given this, I guess the question is he capable of learning what Mitch never could?

 

just because OSU's first read was open 85% of the time doesnt mean Fields cant read the coverage. He may be untested, but to write him off seems unfounded maybe

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What is the biggest reservation people have with Fields? I've read something about how he went to his first option like 85% of the time last season or something so there were questions about his ability to go through progressions in the NFL when the defenses are faster and the first option isn't always open like at OSU, but that's about it. Athleticism, arm strength, accruacy all see 90+ percentile. There is discussion about social biases in place and its a fair discussion but anything else from a pure football standpoint that is giving these teams pause?

 

After Trubisky, the red flag around the ability to quickly go through progressions must be the reddest of red flags for the Bears and especially Pace, no? So, given this, I guess the question is he capable of learning what Mitch never could?

 

just because OSU's first read was open 85% of the time doesnt mean Fields cant read the coverage. He may be untested, but to write him off seems unfounded maybe

 

Hence the question of whether he's capable or not and the only way to answer it is to draft him and give it a go. However, as has been mentioned the football gods have to smile on the Bears in a big way for Fields to even be a realistic possibility. And when have they smiled upon the Bears in recent memory or ever?

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Am I supposed to wish the Bears traded a 6th for Teddy rather than sign Dalton? I've liked Teddy, but I don't think I prefer that to what is happening now.

 

 

I mean, signing Dalton sucks but whatever, it's just money.

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Am I supposed to wish the Bears traded a 6th for Teddy rather than sign Dalton? I've liked Teddy, but I don't think I prefer that to what is happening now.

 

 

I mean, signing Dalton sucks but whatever, it's just money.

 

um, its just a 6th round draft pick

 

 

also considering how bad the bears are at getting a competent QB, they should try just about any avenue available to them

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Am I supposed to wish the Bears traded a 6th for Teddy rather than sign Dalton? I've liked Teddy, but I don't think I prefer that to what is happening now.

 

 

I mean, signing Dalton sucks but whatever, it's just money.

 

um, its just a 6th round draft pick

 

 

also considering how bad the bears are at getting a competent QB, they should try just about any avenue available to them

So you would have traded for Teddy in addition to the Dalton signing? With Foles still on the roster?

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Am I supposed to wish the Bears traded a 6th for Teddy rather than sign Dalton? I've liked Teddy, but I don't think I prefer that to what is happening now.

 

 

I mean, signing Dalton sucks but whatever, it's just money.

 

um, its just a 6th round draft pick

 

 

also considering how bad the bears are at getting a competent QB, they should try just about any avenue available to them

So you would have traded for Teddy in addition to the Dalton signing? With Foles still on the roster?

 

1) I never would have signed Dalton

2) yes - horsefeathers Foles.

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My final Bears mock:

 

20. Justin Fields, QB Ohio State

52. Kellen Mond, QB Texas A&M

83. Davis Mills, QB Stanford

164. Jamie Newman, QB Wake Forest

204. Sam Ehlinger, QB Texas

208. Brady White, QB Memphis

221. KJ Costello, QB Mississippi State

228. Peyton Ramsey, QB Northwestern

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My final Bears mock:

 

20. Justin Fields, QB Ohio State

52. Kellen Mond, QB Texas A&M

83. Davis Mills, QB Stanford

164. Jamie Newman, QB Wake Forest

204. Sam Ehlinger, QB Texas

208. Brady White, QB Memphis

221. KJ Costello, QB Mississippi State

228. Peyton Ramsey, QB Northwestern

Tyler Bray would still make practice squad and have first chance at 3rd string.

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My final Bears mock:

 

20. Justin Fields, QB Ohio State

52. Kellen Mond, QB Texas A&M

83. Davis Mills, QB Stanford

164. Jamie Newman, QB Wake Forest

204. Sam Ehlinger, QB Texas

208. Brady White, QB Memphis

221. KJ Costello, QB Mississippi State

228. Peyton Ramsey, QB Northwestern

 

that's a start. you can always slot one of them in as CB opp Johnson

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My final Bears mock:

 

20. Justin Fields, QB Ohio State

52. Kellen Mond, QB Texas A&M

83. Davis Mills, QB Stanford

164. Jamie Newman, QB Wake Forest

204. Sam Ehlinger, QB Texas

208. Brady White, QB Memphis

221. KJ Costello, QB Mississippi State

228. Peyton Ramsey, QB Northwestern

 

that's a start. you can always slot one of them in as CB opp Johnson

Fields, for sure.

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My final Bears mock:

 

20. Justin Fields, QB Ohio State

52. Kellen Mond, QB Texas A&M

83. Davis Mills, QB Stanford

164. Jamie Newman, QB Wake Forest

204. Sam Ehlinger, QB Texas

208. Brady White, QB Memphis

221. KJ Costello, QB Mississippi State

228. Peyton Ramsey, QB Northwestern

 

Who's awesome?

 

You're awesome.

 

Too bad all of them will be backups in Buffalo 5 years from now...

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My final Bears mock:

 

20. Justin Fields, QB Ohio State

52. Kellen Mond, QB Texas A&M

83. Davis Mills, QB Stanford

164. Jamie Newman, QB Wake Forest

204. Sam Ehlinger, QB Texas

208. Brady White, QB Memphis

221. KJ Costello, QB Mississippi State

228. Peyton Ramsey, QB Northwestern

 

Adam Hoge's mock has the Bears taking 2 QBs, Mond (trading back to 25) and Feleipe Franks in the 6th

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My final Bears mock:

 

20. Justin Fields, QB Ohio State

52. Kellen Mond, QB Texas A&M

83. Davis Mills, QB Stanford

164. Jamie Newman, QB Wake Forest

204. Sam Ehlinger, QB Texas

208. Brady White, QB Memphis

221. KJ Costello, QB Mississippi State

228. Peyton Ramsey, QB Northwestern

 

Adam Hoge's mock has the Bears taking 2 QBs, Mond (trading back to 25) and Feleipe Franks in the 6th

Both future NVPs IMO

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My final Bears mock:

 

20. Justin Fields, QB Ohio State

52. Kellen Mond, QB Texas A&M

83. Davis Mills, QB Stanford

164. Jamie Newman, QB Wake Forest

204. Sam Ehlinger, QB Texas

208. Brady White, QB Memphis

221. KJ Costello, QB Mississippi State

228. Peyton Ramsey, QB Northwestern

 

that's a start. you can always slot one of them in as CB opp Johnson

Fields, for sure.

 

I actually think Fields will be a good QB in the NFL

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that's a start. you can always slot one of them in as CB opp Johnson

Fields, for sure.

 

I actually think Fields will be a good QB in the NFL

But he'd probably also be the best CB of the bunch, soooo defense wins championships am I right #BearsTakes

 

Also if yall liked my post, you can go like my tweet and follow me for more awesome content

Not apologizing for my shameless plug.

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Fields, for sure.

 

I actually think Fields will be a good QB in the NFL

But he'd probably also be the best CB of the bunch, soooo defense wins championships am I right #BearsTakes

 

Also if yall liked my post, you can go like my tweet and follow me for more awesome content

Not apologizing for my shameless plug.

 

 

your name is Zachery? ...ummm

 

edit: A, never E

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