Cubs sign Winkler

[UMFan83]

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[Brian]

guy isn't even the most famous Daniel Winkler, according to google (top 5 results) that would be a knife maker.

[jersey cubs fan]

[Bertz]

Looks like he's got options, so he'll be part of the Iowa shuttle crew

[Banedon]

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[Hairyducked Idiot]

 

I was promised a manic desire to start the offseason with trades.

[UMFan83]

 

I was promised a manic desire to start the offseason with trades.

 

Me too but when Daniel Winkler is available priorities change.

[Post Count Padder]

Whatever, he's decent depth. He was pretty solid 2017-18.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I had never heard of Winkler before today.

 

- Was doing very well in a difficult AA league for the Rockies, then had TJS

- after rehab was excellent in a 2017 Sept callup and in all of 2018 for Atlanta

- had a rough 2019 spring(elbow trouble and performance) that led to him missing the opening day roster, when he did make it back he gave up a bunch of homers

- got shipped off in the Melancon deal and was weirdly effective(no runs allowed but no Ks) in 15 IP for the Giants AAA team

 

He lost some velo from 2018 to 2019 so that combined with the fall off in performance is concerning, but he also didn't get the chance to pitch in MLB in the hottest months so an apples to apples comparison of velocity might not be as stark.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

This is also probably a good spot for some napkin-math research I did at the start of the offseason on relief pitcher consistency.

 

2018

- 48 RP had 1+ fWAR

- 20 of the 48 had 1.5+ fWAR

- 10 of those 20 were 1+ in 2019

- 6 of the 28 between 1-1.5 were 1+ in 2019

 

Basically, even the best relievers in 2018 were a coinflip to be even good in 2019, and those that were good were 20-25% odds of being good again. So where do those good 2018 relievers come from in the first place?

 

In 2017, The 20 that were 1.5+ fWAR in 2018:

 

sub-0 fWAR: 2

0-.5: 7

.5-1: 3

1-1.5: 5

1.5-2: 1

2+: 2

 

About a coinflip whether they were even mediocre the year before!

 

The 28 that were between 1-1.5 fWAR in 2018:

 

sub-20 MLB IP: 8

0-.5: 7

.5-1: 7

1-1.5: 1

1.5-2: 3

2+: 2

 

About a third weren't even pitching in MLB in a material way, and another half were varying degrees of mediocre to okay.

 

Hopefully this makes some sense in how it's presented, but the tl;dr is that relievers are super random and often don't have indication they're about to be good. Hopefully Winkler is one that pops up and gives good productivity.

[Derwood]

He's also terrific in Barry

[jersey cubs fan]

[Transmogrified Tiger]

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[champaignchris]

Went to Parkland College. A Champaign kid!!!

[sneakypower]

they found Captain Winky

[Cubswin11]

Seems like a prime lab candidate with the spin rates. I watched some of his baseball savant videos.... His slider/cutter has some decent movement to it and looks like he goes low 80s to high 80s between them (on top of tweaking things with his spin like the article talks seems like working on tunneling the two would be something to look at). Also looks like he can generate some decent arm side run on his FB.

 

[abohnhoff]

Went to Parkland College. A Champaign kid!!!

 

Born and raised in Effingham, IL

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Fuckingham sounds like an interesting place.

[UK]

Fuckingham sounds like an interesting place.

 

You'd be sadly mistaken.

[The_Achiever]

Effingham is rough but it does have a big ass cross on the highway to remind you you're fucked.

[champaignchris]

Effingham is rough but it does have a big ass cross on the highway to remind you you're horsefeathers.

 

Effingham also has a fantastic record store called America’s Groove.

 

It’s in the middle of an otherwise abandoned shopping mall. It’s surreal it’s like you’re in the middle of a post-apocalyptic zombie movie and then suddenly transported to a John Cusack movie.

[CubinNY]

The thread title is weak.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Fuckingham sounds like an interesting place.

 

I lived there for a couple of years and I can promise you it is absolutely not.

[weis21]

Fuckingham sounds like an interesting place.

 

I lived there for a couple of years and I can promise you it is absolutely not.

did da bum take you house there and make you move?

[Regular Show]

Effingham is rough but it does have a big ass cross on the highway to remind you you're horsefeathers.

 

Yeah, I drive past it every time I go back home. The big ass cross next to I-57 is so horsefeathering obnoxious...

 

Think about the uproar if someone built a giant minaret with a crescent at the top right next to a major highway: