"Time makes fools of us all" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

[Sammy Sofa]

Clouding the issue with stat overload.

 

That's not a thing.

 

And then the lack of self-awareness to follow that up immediately with this:

 

I don’t have interest in breaking down further as the high level stats made the point clear enough.

 

[Rynomites23]

Oh shoot, he pulled another ball in the air just now. What about all the defenders over there???

You have your hands full defending his .6 war, 52nd of war ranking, 12th on the cub and 7th among cub position players. Oh, and his defensive war of - 3.6. I’ll let you chew on that for a while. I could care less about yet another meaningless solo homer by one of the most overrated players in baseball.

[squally1313]

Oh shoot, he pulled another ball in the air just now. What about all the defenders over there???

You have your hands full defending his .6 war, 52nd of war ranking, 12th on the cub and 7th among cub position players. Oh, and his defensive war of - 3.6. I’ll let you chew on that for a while. I could care less about yet another meaningless solo homer by one of the most overrated players in baseball.

Clouding the issue with stat overload, nerd. Go check out his dong today.

[Sammy Sofa]

Overrated by who? Like, literally nobody in the rest of the baseball world is talking about him.

[jersey cubs fan]

Oh shoot, he pulled another ball in the air just now. What about all the defenders over there???

You have your hands full defending his .6 war, 52nd of war ranking, 12th on the cub and 7th among cub position players. Oh, and his defensive war of - 3.6. I’ll let you chew on that for a while. I could care less about yet another meaningless solo homer by one of the most overrated players in baseball.

I'm fairly impressed how you have that war/ranking/position/defensive war thing so memorized.

 

But how is a solo homerun meaningless in a game you lead 9-7?

[squally1313]

Oh shoot, he pulled another ball in the air just now. What about all the defenders over there???

You have your hands full defending his .6 war, 52nd of war ranking, 12th on the cub and 7th among cub position players. Oh, and his defensive war of - 3.6. I’ll let you chew on that for a while. I could care less about yet another meaningless solo homer by one of the most overrated players in baseball.

I'm fairly impressed how you have that war/ranking/position/defensive war thing so memorized.

 

But how is a solo homerun meaningless in a game you lead 9-7?

 

He's obviously pissed no one got on in front of him.

[BigSlick]

The only thing Kyle Schwarber leads the league in is really stupid circular arguments about a guy who's like, a decent but has not proven himself to be a good or great player.

 

Everyone should just shut up about him. He's fine. Go away. Talk about Heyward or something. There's no story here.

[CoolHandLuke]

Is he trying to say "Twelfth on the club" or does he just not know how to refer to the team in a normal way?

[17 Seconds]

your average baseball fan probably doesn't even know schwarber is still getting starts

[minnesotacubsfan]

The only thing Kyle Schwarber leads the league in is really stupid circular arguments about a guy who's like, a decent but has not proven himself to be a good or great player.

 

Everyone should just shut up about him. He's fine. Go away. Talk about Heyward or something. There's no story here.

 

 

Heyward is now over .800 ops.

[Cubswin11]

This could be a something real and a mini leap by him....

 

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https://www.cubsinsider.com/2019/09/04/this-minor-adjustment-could-be-contributing-to-kyle-schwarbers-drastic-offensive-improvement/

[Backtobanks]

I still think the best move is to sign Castellanos and listen to offers for Schwarber. He's fun to watch when he's on a roll, but he can't hit lefties, can't pinch hit, and needs to be replaced defensively in close games. He's a great option for being a DH/platoon OF in the AL.

[Sammy Sofa]

He's fun to watch when he's on a roll, but he can't hit lefties, can't pinch hit, and needs to be replaced defensively in close games. He's a great option for being a DH/platoon OF in the AL.

 

That all arguably applies to Castellanos, too, except against righties.

[muntjack]

This seems like a good time and place to go on record in support of Schwarber. He had a 3 WAR year last year at 25, is only now getting consistent PAs vs. LHP (he's improved every year) and I think he has another level coming. Just my opinion.

 

 

Wrote this on June 27th. 136 wRC+ since then.

[Cubswin11]

I still think the best move is to sign Castellanos and listen to offers for Schwarber. He's fun to watch when he's on a roll, but he can't hit lefties, can't pinch hit, and needs to be replaced defensively in close games. He's a great option for being a DH/platoon OF in the AL.

Why can’t he pinch hit?

[JudasIscariotTheBird]

I still think the best move is to sign Castellanos and listen to offers for Schwarber. He's fun to watch when he's on a roll, but he can't hit lefties, can't pinch hit, and needs to be replaced defensively in close games. He's a great option for being a DH/platoon OF in the AL.

Why can’t he pinch hit?

Where is that SSS guy to explain it to us?

[ConstableRabbit]

I still think the best move is to sign Castellanos and listen to offers for Schwarber. He's fun to watch when he's on a roll, but he can't hit lefties, can't pinch hit, and needs to be replaced defensively in close games. He's a great option for being a DH/platoon OF in the AL.

Why can’t he pinch hit?

You can't pinch hit when you're starting.

[Backtobanks]

I still think the best move is to sign Castellanos and listen to offers for Schwarber. He's fun to watch when he's on a roll, but he can't hit lefties, can't pinch hit, and needs to be replaced defensively in close games. He's a great option for being a DH/platoon OF in the AL.

Why can’t he pinch hit?

 

 

His track record as a PH is atrocious.

[Backtobanks]

He's fun to watch when he's on a roll, but he can't hit lefties, can't pinch hit, and needs to be replaced defensively in close games. He's a great option for being a DH/platoon OF in the AL.

 

That all arguably applies to Castellanos, too, except against righties.

 

 

Schwarber against lefties - .195/.306/.351/.657

 

 

Castellanos against righties - .268/.315/.450/.765

[muntjack]

Schwarber has a .775 OPS against LHP this season. He has only 353 career PAs against them. Sporadic PAs. He’s improved each year. The book is not written.

[mul21]

He's fun to watch when he's on a roll, but he can't hit lefties, can't pinch hit, and needs to be replaced defensively in close games. He's a great option for being a DH/platoon OF in the AL.

 

That all arguably applies to Castellanos, too, except against righties.

 

I'd argue that there's a lot of unknown with Castellanos just with him not playing half his games in the cavernous Detroit park, especially with his penchant for doubles and fly balls that could turn into HRs.

[Sammy Sofa]

He's fun to watch when he's on a roll, but he can't hit lefties, can't pinch hit, and needs to be replaced defensively in close games. He's a great option for being a DH/platoon OF in the AL.

 

That all arguably applies to Castellanos, too, except against righties.

 

 

Schwarber against lefties - .195/.306/.351/.657

 

 

Castellanos against righties - .268/.315/.450/.765

 

You post this like those are good numbers.

[Sammy Sofa]

He's fun to watch when he's on a roll, but he can't hit lefties, can't pinch hit, and needs to be replaced defensively in close games. He's a great option for being a DH/platoon OF in the AL.

 

That all arguably applies to Castellanos, too, except against righties.

 

I'd argue that there's a lot of unknown with Castellanos just with him not playing half his games in the cavernous Detroit park, especially with his penchant for doubles and fly balls that could turn into HRs.

 

His away numbers in 1795 PA: .263 .311 .457 .768

 

He's cool and it's awesome what he's doing with the Cubs, and maybe he/they have figured something out, but signing him as an everyday player is taking a reasonably large risk, especially given the already shaky at the VERY best setup of the Cubs' OF.

[Bertz]

I think for me the Schwarber question is really a juiced ball question. If you think the 2019 ball is the new normal, that makes his prodigious power much less valuable and he simply doesn't do enough other stuff to make him more than an average player. And that comes with some pretty annoying limitations like his defensive range and his trouble with lefties. But if you think we're going to go back to the no-juice 2014 ball, or more likely the 2018 sort-of-juiced ball, I think his power will take less of a hit than 99% of guys and his value rises commensurately.

[squally1313]

I still think the best move is to sign Castellanos and listen to offers for Schwarber. He's fun to watch when he's on a roll, but he can't hit lefties, can't pinch hit, and needs to be replaced defensively in close games. He's a great option for being a DH/platoon OF in the AL.

Why can’t he pinch hit?

 

 

His track record as a PH is atrocious.

 

Is that a thing that is somehow predictive going forward compared to his total numbers?