General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

[javy knows my name]

Surprised Soriano never hit 40. I'll bet he hit 5 in a week like 6 times and 15 mins a month. That's crazy

[NorthsideAvenger]

10 hours ago, soccer10k said:

He’s at 9.5 WAR right now. That’s wild.

Also, poor Bobby Witt, who might put up a 10 WAR season and won’t get a first place MVP vote.

I would vote Witt, Jr as MVP and not sleep about it. Take Judge out the Yankees and they are still in playoffs mode, take Witt off the Royals and they are heading towards a top 5 pick.

[17 Seconds]

1 hour ago, NorthsideAvenger said:

I would vote Witt, Jr as MVP and not sleep about it. Take Judge out the Yankees and they are still in playoffs mode, take Witt off the Royals and they are heading towards a top 5 pick.

this is a bizarre way to think about value

[NorthsideAvenger]

1 hour ago, 17 Seconds said:

this is a bizarre way to think about value

I like promoting the new faces of the game. People expected a season like this from Judge but how many people expect Witt, Jr to be this good so quick?

So yeah I would vote for Witt.

 

[JHBulls]

Wild.

150+ years of baseball and there are still “first times” in baseball. This sport still produces these firsts. 

 

[17 Seconds]

4 hours ago, NorthsideAvenger said:

I like promoting the new faces of the game. People expected a season like this from Judge but how many people expect Witt, Jr to be this good so quick?

So yeah I would vote for Witt.

 

nobody expected a 1.200 ops and 12 war from judge, and even if they did, that's not fair to him. witt is amazing, but judge has been more valuable. it doesn't really matter to me who is on the better team

[mul21]

4 hours ago, JHBulls said:

Wild.

150+ years of baseball and there are still “first times” in baseball. This sport still produces these firsts. 

 

I love stuff like this.  Apparently on Sunday night, the Diaz brothers both gave up walk off homers.  No idea if that's ever happened before but the fact that first time things are still happening in a 150 year old game is wild.

[squally1313]

1 hour ago, 17 Seconds said:

nobody expected a 1.200 ops and 12 war from judge, and even if they did, that's not fair to him. witt is amazing, but judge has been more valuable. it doesn't really matter to me who is on the better team

I remember being very drunk in college and trying to argue that the best player of the team that just missed the playoffs was actually the least valuable player in baseball because all they ultimately did was cost their team a better draft slot while still giving them zero chance to win in the playoffs. Basically claiming Mike Trout was the least valuable player of our generation. I was very wrong, but it was still fun. 

[Derwood]

I know this wasn't a "has never happened" event, but when the Marlins hitter was intentionally walked but never actually touched first base before being pinch run for, Pat and Ryan both said they'd never seen that happen before

[CubinNY]

Besides the WAR argument, Judge might win the triple crown. I know old-timey numbers and all, but it's rare, special, and valuable. Miggy did it in 2012 and before that, it was 1967.

[squally1313]

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/calculating-war-using-re24/

Fun article on what WAR would look like if they brought context into play. No specific mention of Cubs players, though the data was linked so you can peruse at your leisure. Morel was the only Cubs-adjacent name, on the top 10 for guys whose WAR decreased significantly if you added in context. 

[We Got The Whole 9]

3 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

Besides the WAR argument, Judge might win the triple crown. I know old-timey numbers and all, but it's rare, special, and valuable. Miggy did it in 2012 and before that, it was 1967.

I feel like Witt will just barely hold on but still a whole lot of time left. I am hoping Judge wins it though. 

Edited August 27, 2024 by We Got The Whole 9

[soccer10k]

50 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

Besides the WAR argument, Judge might win the triple crown. I know old-timey numbers and all, but it's rare, special, and valuable. Miggy did it in 2012 and before that, it was 1967.

Marcell Ozuna might win the Triple Crown too! He’s first in BA and RBI and 4 back of Ohtani in HR.

[Tryptamine]

I'll be interested to see what happens in regards to Ohtani and the HoF. Currently he sits at 25.7 fWAR, which is less than half of what is typically necessary. It's incredibly unlikely he'll reach the usual prerequisite which is around 60 fWAR. If he keeps doing what he's doing for another 4 years is he in regardless of career numbers  based on how purely dominant he was over an 8 year stretch?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

12 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

I'll be interested to see what happens in regards to Ohtani and the HoF. Currently he sits at 25.7 fWAR, which is less than half of what is typically necessary. It's incredibly unlikely he'll reach the usual prerequisite which is around 60 fWAR. If he keeps doing what he's doing for another 4 years is he in regardless of career numbers  based on how purely dominant he was over an 8 year stretch?

Considering he's going back on the mound next year, continuing at his pace from the last couple years for 4 more years will get him very close to 60 WAR.

[Post Count Padder]

On 8/26/2024 at 1:52 PM, UMFan83 said:

This made me wonder when the last time the Cubs have had even a 40 HR season.  We've had some mashers in recent years like KB, Javy, Schwarber, Soler, Soriano, ARam.  3 of those 6 have had 40 HR seasons with other teams, just not with the Cubs.  KB came oh so close in 2016 with 39 homers, but a September slump kept him under 40.  Schwarber also hit 38 in his best Cubs season. 

The last 40+ home run season by a Cub was.............Derrek Lee with 46 home runs back in 2005, almost 20 years ago.  Obviously Sosa had a bunch of 40+ HR seasons (7 to be exact), but excluding Sammy, the last Cub to hit 40+ HRs in a season prior to DLee was Ryne Sandberg in 1990 (with 40 exactly).

Every team in baseball has had a 40+ HR season more recently than the Cubs except the Giants and the Pirates.

Only 2 Cubs have ever hit 50+ home runs in a season: Sosa (who did it 4 times, most recently in 2001) and Hack WIlson back in 1930.

The Giants haven't had a 30 HR hitter since Bonds 20 years ago. That's just insane. And they've won 3 WS in that time!

Brandon Belt hit 29 in 2021. And Bonds hit 28 in 2006. Those are their closest since.

[Eeyore]

Levine Sosa just took a baseball to the beak after the catcher threw it to him 

[PackLandVA]

13 minutes ago, Eeyore said:

Levine Sosa just took a baseball to the beak after the catcher threw it to him 

Supposing you could elaborate on this??

[Eeyore]

Catcher threw the ball to second after the pitcher was done warming up. Lenyn wasn't looking and the ball hit him square in the nose.

 

Just now Jankowski was out in by Texas as a defensive replacement in the ninth. The six had two on and Jankowski jumped the wall and pulled in what would have been the game winner. Their dbag announcer was doing his stand up call for the win and he had to shut up. Just sucked the life out of the team 

[soccer10k]

Ohtani with a HR and 2 SB tonight so he's at 42-42 for the year. ARod in 98 is the only guy with at least 42 in both categories in a season.

Somebody can fact check me, but a quick Google search tells me only two players (Barry Bonds and Brady Anderson) have ever had 50 SB in a season and 50 HR in a season (obviously not the same season).

Edited August 29, 2024 by soccer10k

[Banedon]

9 hours ago, PackLandVA said:

Supposing you could elaborate on this??

 

[We Got The Whole 9]

7 hours ago, soccer10k said:

Ohtani with a HR and 2 SB tonight so he's at 42-42 for the year. ARod in 98 is the only guy with at least 42 in both categories in a season.

Somebody can fact check me, but a quick Google search tells me only two players (Barry Bonds and Brady Anderson) have ever had 50 SB in a season and 50 HR in a season (obviously not the same season).

I swear this dude could pull a slider heading for the opposite batters box into the stands. He is incredible at getting the bat on plane and barrel out in front of any pitch type and somehow pulling outside pitches. Burnes threw his first slider of the AB, away from Shohei, and he recognized it immediately and pummeled it. 

 

 

[JHBulls]

 

[We Got The Whole 9]

Lawrence Butler had his 2nd 3-HR game of the season last night and the 3rd one was an absolute bomb to blow a save for Diaz in the 9th. Butler is 23 and look at his season split from pre and post 7/1:

 

Thru 7/1: 179/260/269, 2 HR in 150 PA

After 7/1: 313/354/682, 17 HR in 192 PA and this includes a 14 game stretch in which he hit 213/259/298 lol

 

Sitting at a 135 for the season and he's been hot garbage for a large portion of the season. Really crazy looking at his game log. 

[Transmogrified Tiger]

15 minutes ago, We Got The Whole 9 said:

Lawrence Butler had his 2nd 3-HR game of the season last night and the 3rd one was an absolute bomb to blow a save for Diaz in the 9th. Butler is 23 and look at his season split from pre and post 7/1:

 

Thru 7/1: 179/260/269, 2 HR in 150 PA

After 7/1: 313/354/682, 17 HR in 192 PA and this includes a 14 game stretch in which he hit 213/259/298 lol

 

Sitting at a 135 for the season and he's been hot garbage for a large portion of the season. Really crazy looking at his game log. 

I've started putting on the MLB recap roundup on the TV when I run on the treadmill in the morning(a lightly edited highlight package of each game without a host/commentary), and I swear he shows up hitting a bomb like every night.