NFL Playoffs Thread (again with less Suh)

[ChiCubsFan]

Yeah, definitely not a catch under the interpretation of the current rules.

[Andy]

Rooting for Colts-Packers.

 

Fully expecting Seahawks-Patriots.

I'm rooting for Colts-anyone. And I'm not generally a Colts fan.

 

Rodgers was game today, but unless he heals up really quickly, I'm not sure how GB can beat Seattle. Pack will need to be at the top of its game, I imagine.

[Sammys Boombox]

But how can you maintain possession w/o the ever critical football move? Without it, you technically don't even have possession

 

Basically, you have to maintain possession through any of these three to be a catch:

 

1. A football move

2. Going to the ground

3. Both feet in bounds

 

However, if you are going to the ground in the act of the catch just #3 is not good enough, you must also have #2. It's the same with #1. If you are going to the ground in the act of the catch you must also meet the requirements for #2. I understand that Bryant got three feet down, but he was still in the act of the catch the entire time. EVERY rules expert has agreed on this and I immediately got texts from knowledgable fans of the Bears and Rams telling me they thought it was incomplete. People who watch a lot of the NFL were not surprised the call was overturned.

 

You can still hate the rule. I hate the rule even more that says if they had ruled it a catch and then a fumble and it went out the end zone that the Packers would have gotten it at the 20, but I would challenge you to write a rule defining a catch because it's a lot harder than you'd think.

[scarey]

From what I saw Bryant brought the ball in, juggled it, secured it, got one foot down, got tripped up by the defender, started going to the ground, dove ahead, then hit the ground with the ball popping loose. I get that it's an incomplete pass.

 

However, what if he had gotten two feet down with the ball secured prior to getting tripped up? Would that then be a catch? Or is he still in the act of catching the ball?

[Guest]

Was there a play that spawned the current rules? I just don't remember the definition of a catch being a problem prior to whatever addition caused insanity like this and the Megatron play.

 

As far as a football move goes, it seems pretty clear to me that if there wasn't a goal line there for Bryant to reach for, he would've pretty easily continued to secure the ball through the ground. I don't know if that fits whatever madness the rule book contains, but it seems relevant to point out. I saw someone on Twitter refer to the play and call as 'peak NFL', that seems about right.

[Sammys Boombox]

Technically he could take 15 (or more) steps with the ball secured, and try to juke a defender. If the judgement of the official says he was going to the ground the whole time it's incomplete. Obviously that would be poor judgement, but it would be in the context of the rules. Steps don't matter at all. Football move doesn't matter. Going to the ground in the act of a catch trumps all.

[UK1679666180]

To me, if there was no contact I would agree with the call. If Shields makes contact and Bryant has possession, the ground can't cause a fumble and should be spotted where his knee touches the ground.

[UMFan83]

Was there a play that spawned the current rules? I just don't remember the definition of a catch being a problem prior to whatever addition caused insanity like this and the Megatron play.

 

As far as a football move goes, it seems pretty clear to me that if there wasn't a goal line there for Bryant to reach for, he would've pretty easily continued to secure the ball through the ground. I don't know if that fits whatever madness the rule book contains, but it seems relevant to point out. I saw someone on Twitter refer to the play and call as 'peak NFL', that seems about right.

 

I could be wrong but when the Calvin Johnson catch happened, I feel like I remember the announcers saying that interpreting what a catch is was something the refs emphasized in the preseason that year, so basically the NFL forcing the refs to call it by the rulebook. And kind of like the tuck rule, once that call was made, future plays were judged by that interpretation.

[sneakypower]

as i recall, the rules committee reviewed the process rule the offseason after the Calvin Johnson non-TD and decided they liked it the way it was and made no changes

[jersey cubs fan]

Such a brave man.

 

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 56s56 seconds ago

Broncos QB Peyton Manning played Sunday’s Divisional Playoff loss and the past month of the season with a torn right quad, per two sources.

[Banedon]

Such a brave man.

 

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 56s56 seconds ago

Broncos QB Peyton Manning played Sunday’s Divisional Playoff loss and the past month of the season with a torn right quad, per two sources.

 

Rodgers had a strain though! He's a hero!

[Banedon]

Wait, when did OMC get hired at SBNation?

 

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/11/7529215/andrew-luck-civil-war-general-denver-broncos-nfl-playoffs

[Guest]

where's the brutal execution stuff

[sneakypower]

Skip Bayless @RealSkipBayless 9:50 AM - 13 Sep 2010

Calvin Johnson robbed his own team by not knowing the rule. Tried to jump up & celebrate before covered up and went to the ground with ball.

[source]

 

 

Skip Bayless ‏@RealSkipBayless 1:38 PM - 11 Jan 2015

Congrats, Packer fans. You just benefitted from one of the worst replay decisions in NFL playoff history, right there with the Tuck Rule.

[source]

[bukie]

Is there anyone left out there that doesn't understand Skip Bayless is an inciteful buffoon?

[sneakypower]

ESPN

[SouthSideRyan]

Homophones confuse them.

[Flames24Rulz]

Skip Bayless @RealSkipBayless 9:50 AM - 13 Sep 2010

Calvin Johnson robbed his own team by not knowing the rule. Tried to jump up & celebrate before covered up and went to the ground with ball.

[source]

 

 

Skip Bayless ‏@RealSkipBayless 1:38 PM - 11 Jan 2015

Congrats, Packer fans. You just benefitted from one of the worst replay decisions in NFL playoff history, right there with the Tuck Rule.

[source]

 

Saw this yesterday. I'm sure you could probably find contradicting viewpoints from himself for just about everything he says.

[Smack]

He's trolling and a lot of people can't help but click and comment. He profits.

[Guest]

ESPN

 

That is precisely why ESPN employs him.

[Sammys Boombox]

Let me ask this, if somebody goes up for a ball, grabs it, taps down two feet and one foot bounces twice and then on his way down the ball hits the ground and pops out should that be a completion? I say no. So how do you write the rule that differentiates what Dez did and this scenario?

[minnesotacubsfan]

Skip Bayless @RealSkipBayless 9:50 AM - 13 Sep 2010

Calvin Johnson robbed his own team by not knowing the rule. Tried to jump up & celebrate before covered up and went to the ground with ball.

[source]

 

 

Skip Bayless ‏@RealSkipBayless 1:38 PM - 11 Jan 2015

Congrats, Packer fans. You just benefitted from one of the worst replay decisions in NFL playoff history, right there with the Tuck Rule.

[source]

 

that man should work for Fox News, FAIR AND BALANCED

[imb]

Let me ask this, if somebody goes up for a ball, grabs it, taps down two feet and one foot bounces twice and then on his way down the ball hits the ground and pops out should that be a completion? I say no. So how do you write the rule that differentiates what Dez did and this scenario?

 

Well, if the catch yesterday happened as Bryant was heading out of bounds, he wouldn't have reached the ball forward for the end zone.

[minnesotacubsfan]

as i recall, the rules committee reviewed the process rule the offseason after the Calvin Johnson non-TD and decided they liked it the way it was and made no changes

 

anything to screw the Lions.

 

j/k, the rule was new for the year and one the refs were tracking in 2010, the Johnson catch was the first call involving it. The rule sucked then and it sucks now. Bryant was robbed. He had more of a catch then Johnson did, and Johnson's should have been a TD. That coming from a fan of the team that benefited from Johnson's non-catch.

[Sammys Boombox]

Let me ask this, if somebody goes up for a ball, grabs it, taps down two feet and one foot bounces twice and then on his way down the ball hits the ground and pops out should that be a completion? I say no. So how do you write the rule that differentiates what Dez did and this scenario?

 

Well, if the catch yesterday happened as Bryant was heading out of bounds, he wouldn't have reached the ball forward for the end zone.

 

My scenario could be in the middle of the field. So, if the player gets greedy with his ball control it's catch? I'm confused what your point is. Just looking for clarification.