Miguel Montero acquired for Mejia and Godley

[minnesotacubsfan]

[expletive], we're giving up Mejia.

wwwttttffff

 

I knew I was right in not liking the idea of getting Montero

 

lmao you have no idea who mejia is do you

 

 

Nope. None

Mejia came to the U.S. this year to make his pro debut, and he opened eyes with his pure stuff. He's adding strength to his 6-foot-7 frame, and he already can reach 97 mph with his fastball. Mejia usually works at 92-94, and his heater is tough to hit, because it features quality life and downhill plane.

 

 

Yea I googled the guy. 20 year olds can flame out, but I don't like giving up both solid prospects and money to a platoon hitter

[rawaction]

I've got zero problems w/ shipping prospects, and it's not like I had Mejia in my personal top 15 or anything. I am just that underwhelmed by Montero. For David Price or Cole Hamels? Sure, ship off anything that isn't Russell/Bryant/Soler. I'd be fine with that.

 

So you want good players for bad prospects. Got it.

 

That's really what you took out of what I posted? O.k.

 

Deductive reasoning. You don't want to trade the elite prospects for a really good player (as stated above). You don't want to give up an expendable prospect 4 years away for a decent player that fits a huge need. So, I am deducting that you think Mejia is worth someone between Price and Montero. Therefore, i deducted you want good players but without having to give up good prospects, and added some hyperbole.

[WrigleyField 22]

So we either gave up a 19 year old top 15 prospect who throws in the upper 90s or a 20 year old prospect who throws I the low 90s and outside our top 30.

 

Cool.

 

 

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[Elrhino]

So we either gave up a 19 year old top 15 prospect who throws in the upper 90s or a 20 year old prospect who throws I the low 90s and outside our top 30.

 

Yeah, seems like the MLB couldn't get it straightened out either.

 

Mejia, 18, would have been eligible to sign last year, but Major League Baseball had an issue with his paperwork and declared him ineligible to sign until April. However, with teams mostly out of space remaining from their $2.9 million bonus pools from the 2012-13 signing period, it’s not surprising that Mejia waited until the beginning of the 2013-14 signing period to officially sign his contract. Mejia is now using an Aug. 2, 1994 date of birth.

 

Mejia was 6-foot-7, 190 pounds last year and was sitting in the high-80s fastball at the time, but now he’s listed at 220 pounds (although that might be a light estimate) and his fastball has jumped along with the increase in weight. While he was ineligible to sign, Mejia pitched at the Rays’ Dominican academy in January in the International Prospect League all-star game, where he showed a 90-93 mph fastball, a swing-and-miss changeup along with a solid curveball in the mid-70s. His athleticism also improved along with his strength, which helped him get in better sync with his delivery.

 

Unlike other July 2 signings, who sign contracts for the the 2014 season, Mejia can begin playing immediately. However, given the problems he had with his MLB investigation last year, there’s no way to guarantee he will be approved in time to pitch this season.

[gscool89]

Passan: Sources: Now that Miguel Montero is dealt, the next move for Chicago is to trade Welington Castillo. Had explored deals during Martin chase.

[UMFan83]

Dammit I wasted all that time reading about the great Montero/Castillo platoon.

[UMFan83]

miguel montero

@miggymont26

Excited for the next chapter in my career with a team with so much history and a bright future. See you soon Windy City!

[Smack]

Dammit I wasted all that time reading about the great Montero/Castillo platoon.

 

Same here. I guess they really hate Castillo.

[gscool89]

Dammit I wasted all that time reading about the great Montero/Castillo platoon.

 

Same here. I guess they really hate Castillo.

Or they want to sign David Ross for Lester purposes. I wouldn't trade Castillo unless we get a nice package.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Dammit I wasted all that time reading about the great Montero/Castillo platoon.

 

Seeeeee! Wtf did I tell you??

[Guest]

Signing Ross and trading Castillo doesn't bother me a ton in the abstract, but in practice I wonder what Castillo's trade value is. The catching position is in a weird spot where there's a huge conglomeration of guys that are not too dissimilar in value that really cuts down on who you could see having interest in him. You'd need either some team to be really desperate(Dodgers? Maybe Tigers?) or some team with an okay solution to fall in love with him(kinda like the inverse of what the Cubs did this year).

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

They can trade Castillo for cash for all I care.

[Tyrant]

wonder if castillo could be part of a trade for whatever the "big bat" is that was mentioned on twitter yesterday if the cubs sign lester.

[Elrhino]

Signing Ross and trading Castillo doesn't bother me a ton in the abstract, but in practice I wonder what Castillo's trade value is. The catching position is in a weird spot where there's a huge conglomeration of guys that are not too dissimilar in value that really cuts down on who you could see having interest in him. You'd need either some team to be really desperate(Dodgers? Maybe Tigers?) or some team with an okay solution to fall in love with him(kinda like the inverse of what the Cubs did this year).

 

I could see the Rangers coveting Welly. It's a high priority position for them (Jon Daniels said they need to starting caliber catchers to play in the Texas heat). They don't have a ton of money to spend, they don't seem to value pitch framing much and they don't want to commit large resources to one with Alfaro coming down the pike. Daniels also called the catcher free agent market "lousy".

[RynoRules]

I wish Mejia the best, but at this juncture its hard to get upset about losing him for an above-avg ML catcher. Godley doesn't matter all.

[gscool89]

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/mlb/diamondbacks/2014/12/09/arizona-diamondbacks-trade-miguel-montero-chicago-cubs/20154403/

Mejia appears to have the most upside of the pitchers the Diamondbacks are receiving. He has size (6-foot-7), velocity (mid-90s fastball), a decent breaking ball and a developing change-up that gives him a chance to be a big league starting pitcher, according to a rival scout who saw him pitch multiple times this year in the rookie-level Arizona League and in instructional league.

 

"For his size, he throws strikes and he repeats his delivery," the scout said. "He has a change-up that's not good, but he's working on the change-up and it gives him a chance to start. The breaking ball, I think it's a slider, it's got a chance to be average.

 

"I know MLB.com had him as the No. 17 prospect in the Cubs system, but I think he's higher than that. They might be viewing him as a bullpen guy, but I think he has a chance to start. Seems like a pretty good return for Montero, who may or may not bounce back. And they're dumping the salary."

[Guest]

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/miguel-montero-the-next-piece-of-the-cubs-puzzle/

 

Restates mostly what's been said here, with some more emphasis on how the last 2 years are slightly aberrant for Castillo and Montero due to BABIP, which would trend things further towards Montero and away from Castillo.

[Tryptamine]

So we're hoping that somehow pitch framing is going to make up for the 5.5fwar to 1.9fwar advantage Castillo has over the last two years,40M contract and prospects. Sorry but that's [expletive] dumb.

[bukie]

So we're hoping that somehow pitch framing is going to make up for the 5.5fwar to 1.9fwar advantage Castillo has over the last two years,40M contract and prospects. Sorry but that's [expletive] dumb.

Considering Montero is projected to outperform Castillo next year without taking pitch framing into account, then...yes.

[ConstableRabbit]

miguel montero

@miggymont26

Excited for the next chapter in my career with a team with so much history and a bright future. See you soon Windy City!

The dude missed a *huge* comma in the second sentence. And it should read "best chapter OF my career." Release this clown!

[Him]

Miggy also fills the "Veteran clubhouse guy" role we've been supposedly pursuing.

[Clem Fandango]

I'm excited to see how Arrieta's numbers will turn out next year with a competent pitch framer behind the plate.

[Tryptamine]

So we're hoping that somehow pitch framing is going to make up for the 5.5fwar to 1.9fwar advantage Castillo has over the last two years,40M contract and prospects. Sorry but that's [expletive] dumb.

Considering Montero is projected to outperform Castillo next year without taking pitch framing into account, then...yes.

 

Who cares about projections? The last two years of actual performance say you're wrong.

[Guest]

The article you mocked went into detail about why the last two years shouldn't be taken at face value. In short, Castillo's 2013 is deceiving for BABIP reasons, and Montero's 2014(after an injury derailed 2013) gives hope to further improvement in 2015 for BABIP reasons.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

lol @ people who use fWAR for catchers and defend it.