Ryan Braun suspended for rest of 2013

[Sammy Sofa]

Wilson is winning in this thread but not in the way he thinks he is.

 

A good ol' fashioned dogpile is good for the board and good for the soul.

[Wilson A2000]

No, gotta be physical evidence. What Aaron did is very rare. What Bonds did was cheating.

 

So you shouldn't doubt any performance prior to 2002.

 

I don't. He had HOF numbers/trajectory pre. 2002.

[Sammy Sofa]

No, gotta be physical evidence. What Aaron did is very rare. What Bonds did was cheating.

 

So you shouldn't doubt any performance prior to 2002.

 

I don't. He had HOF numbers/trajectory pre. 2002.

 

So you have no issue with Sosa's numbers pre-2002.

[Sammy Sofa]

Remember, MLB conducted it's first "real" test for PEDs in 2003. Curious to see what counts as "real evidence" for you.

[Wilson A2000]

No, gotta be physical evidence. What Aaron did is very rare. What Bonds did was cheating.

 

So you shouldn't doubt any performance prior to 2002.

 

I don't. He had HOF numbers/trajectory pre. 2002.

 

So you have no issue with Sosa's numbers pre-2002.

 

No Sammy had the physical evidence that he was on roids before. He got huge before 1998.

[Sammy Sofa]

So the only real evidence for you is whether a guy "got huge."

 

Stellar detective skills.

[Wilson A2000]

So the only real evidence for you is whether a guy "got huge."

 

Stellar detective skills.

 

Um yeah that's what roids do. People noticed it. Everyone saw Bonds in 2002. He was a different person. Do you think Sosa was on roids in 1998?

[MWV]

How huge did Ryan Braun, the supposed topic of this thread, ever get?

[Guest]

So the only real evidence for you is whether a guy "got huge."

 

Stellar detective skills.

 

Um yeah that's what roids do. People noticed it. Everyone saw Bonds in 2002. He was a different person. Do you think Sosa was on roids in 1998?

 

Bonds hit 73 HR in 2001.

[Sammy Sofa]

So the only real evidence for you is whether a guy "got huge."

 

Stellar detective skills.

 

Um yeah that's what roids do.

 

Sometimes.

[Sammy Sofa]

So the only real evidence for you is whether a guy "got huge."

 

Stellar detective skills.

 

Um yeah that's what roids do. People noticed it. Everyone saw Bonds in 2002. He was a different person. Do you think Sosa was on roids in 1998?

 

Bonds hit 73 HR in 2001.

 

Dude, he was HUGE! Hank was only a little bit bigger.

[Wilson A2000]

It got big because people don't think roids do much, not much more than greenies and they won't admit that this designer steroid era has dirtied the game.

[Sammy Sofa]

As opposed to previous eras of PED usage, which were just fine.

[Wilson A2000]

So the only real evidence for you is whether a guy "got huge."

 

Stellar detective skills.

 

Um yeah that's what roids do.

 

Sometimes.

 

Horse steroids do. What year did Bonds's head get big. That was the year I thought he started. Maybe before 2002.

[Andy]

How huge did Ryan Braun, the supposed topic of this thread, ever get?

Quit sullying the issue with your logic and on-topic discussion.

[Guest]

So the only real evidence for you is whether a guy "got huge."

 

Stellar detective skills.

 

Um yeah that's what roids do.

 

Sometimes.

 

Horse steroids do. What year did Bonds's head get big. That was the year I thought he started. Maybe before 2002.

 

That was HGH. Steroids don't make your head big.

Edited July 24, 2013 by David

[Wilson A2000]

As opposed to previous eras of PED usage, which were just fine.

 

No I said they were wrong too now that I know they were ILLEGAL

[mul21]

So the only real evidence for you is whether a guy "got huge."

 

Stellar detective skills.

 

Um yeah that's what roids do.

 

Sometimes.

 

Horse steroids do. What year did Bonds's head get big. That was the year I thought he started. Maybe before 2002.

 

It's pretty well documented that he started taking them after the 1998 season because he was pissed Sosa and McGwire were getting all the attention when he thought he was a far superior player to them. He started juicing out of his mind at that point and turned into the incredible Hulk.

[Sammy Sofa]

So the only real evidence for you is whether a guy "got huge."

 

Stellar detective skills.

 

Um yeah that's what roids do.

 

Sometimes.

 

Horse steroids do. What year did Bonds's head get big. That was the year I thought he started. Maybe before 2002.

 

It's pretty well documented that he started taking them after the 1998 season because he was pissed Sosa and McGwire were getting all the attention when he thought he was a far superior player to them. He started juicing out of his mind at that point and turned into the incredible Hulk.

 

That's just like the 800th thing mentioned in this thread that he could easily look up, yet seems to refuse to do so.

[Sammy Sofa]

So the only real evidence for you is whether a guy "got huge."

 

Stellar detective skills.

 

Um yeah that's what roids do.

 

Sometimes.

 

Horse steroids do. What year did Bonds's head get big. That was the year I thought he started. Maybe before 2002.

 

That was HGH. Steroids don't make your head big.

 

Horsey Growth Hormones?

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

So what were the Cream and the Clear?

[Wilson A2000]

But I do think the performance greenies got you is nowhere near the benefits BALCO and Biogenesis gave. Worlds apart.

[Wilson A2000]

Double post Edited July 24, 2013 by Wilson A2000

[Wilson A2000]

At work on my phone no time to look everything up

[Wilson A2000]

So what were the Cream and the Clear?

 

Steroids. Bonds was on a cocktail. HGH, horse roids, masking agent.