Dale Sveum to re arrange the deck chairs

[XZero771679666304]

I've seen concern over his low walk and lack of power this year on multiple occasions.

 

The lack of patience has been brought up in many of the game threads I've followed, and I've mentioned it more than a few times myself. And I've seen it discussed in other threads as well.

[SouthSideRyan]

Since that's the only place Castro has ever been discussed here, that's great evidence in support of your position.

Good point. In the last four pages of the Castro thread, walks were mentioned once. Lots of discussion going on. Tons of concern being expressed.

 

Oh wait. I bet that's the wrong place to look too.

 

Call MR a rapist!!

[Tracer Bullet]

Since that's the only place Castro has ever been discussed here, that's great evidence in support of your position.

Good point. In the last four pages of the Castro thread, walks were mentioned once. Lots of discussion going on. Tons of concern being expressed.

 

Oh wait. I bet that's the wrong place to look too.

 

Stop trolling.

[Geech]

It is very strange to see davearm try to crawl underneath the dog pile in this thread. It's not even subtle.

[neely crenshaw]

Since that's the only place Castro has ever been discussed here, that's great evidence in support of your position.

Good point. In the last four pages of the Castro thread, walks were mentioned once. Lots of discussion going on. Tons of concern being expressed.

 

Oh wait. I bet that's the wrong place to look too.

 

Call MR a rapist!!

 

hey southside, how's Trumbo looking?

[SouthSideRyan]

Since that's the only place Castro has ever been discussed here, that's great evidence in support of your position.

Good point. In the last four pages of the Castro thread, walks were mentioned once. Lots of discussion going on. Tons of concern being expressed.

 

Oh wait. I bet that's the wrong place to look too.

 

Call MR a rapist!!

 

hey southside, how's Trumbo looking?

 

Yes let's inject more bizarre tangents into this thread.

[SouthSideRyan]

Hey CCP, nice game from the Pacers tonight!!

[Rob]

Hey Tree, how about SSR and your sister?

[Sammy Sofa]

YESSSSSSSSSS.

[treebird]

my sister is decidedly sans ryan, so that counts as a zing on him

[Little Slide Rooter]

Since that's the only place Castro has ever been discussed here, that's great evidence in support of your position.

Good point. In the last four pages of the Castro thread, walks were mentioned once. Lots of discussion going on. Tons of concern being expressed.

 

Oh wait. I bet that's the wrong place to look too.

 

Call MR a rapist!!

 

hey southside, how's Trumbo looking?

 

Yes let's inject more bizarre tangents into this thread.

 

Ted Lilly is 5-0 with a 1.79 ERA and 0.90 WHIP.

[SouthSideRyan]

Since that's the only place Castro has ever been discussed here, that's great evidence in support of your position.

Good point. In the last four pages of the Castro thread, walks were mentioned once. Lots of discussion going on. Tons of concern being expressed.

 

Oh wait. I bet that's the wrong place to look too.

 

Call MR a rapist!!

 

hey southside, how's Trumbo looking?

 

If anyone's curious(and why would you be, why would anyone compare the 2??), here are the numbers on Trumbo and Stewart.

Trumbo:  BB% 9.3 K% 21.7  LD% 19.3 BABIP .402
Stewart: BB% 9.7 K% 18.8  LD% 17.9 BABIP .221

[Rob]

my sister is decidedly sans ryan, so that counts as a zing on him

 

I miss all the good nsbb gossip...

[davell]

Josh Hamilton hit four homers in a game.

[neely crenshaw]

Since that's the only place Castro has ever been discussed here, that's great evidence in support of your position.

Good point. In the last four pages of the Castro thread, walks were mentioned once. Lots of discussion going on. Tons of concern being expressed.

 

Oh wait. I bet that's the wrong place to look too.

 

Call MR a rapist!!

 

hey southside, how's Trumbo looking?

 

If anyone's curious(and why would you be, why would anyone compare the 2??), here are the numbers on Trumbo and Stewart.

Trumbo:  BB% 9.3 K% 21.7  LD% 19.3 BABIP .402
Stewart: BB% 9.7 K% 18.8  LD% 17.9 BABIP .221

 

so you don't like his games stats at all? I know your point was that his goods stats were at PCL even you have to admit he has far outdistanced what you thought he would do. Yes, I know it's a small sample and could change a lot. The Angels are 2nd favorite team and I follow/watch them alot. When Mike Scioscia sings a hitters praises and says he has to have him in the line-up I tend to believe him. The kid is good, and should continue to improve on last year's rookie numbers. Just based on Marmol falling apart and his contract I take that trade in a heartbeat, of course hindsight is 20/20

[SouthSideRyan]

My point is that Trumbo has been spectacularly lucky to put up the numbers he has, and is very unlikely to continue anywhere close to where he has performed thus far.

 

Scioscia also couldn't live without Jeff Mathis until he had his toy taken away from him. He's a giant meatball jock doofus.

[Little Slide Rooter]

My point is that Trumbo has been spectacularly lucky to put up the numbers he has, and is very unlikely to continue anywhere close to where he has performed thus far.

 

Scioscia also couldn't live without Jeff Mathis until he had his toy taken away from him. He's a giant meatball jock doofus.

 

I blame the radiation poisoning.

[Cubswin11]

 

hey southside, how's Trumbo looking?

 

If anyone's curious(and why would you be, why would anyone compare the 2??), here are the numbers on Trumbo and Stewart.

Trumbo:  BB% 9.3 K% 21.7  LD% 19.3 BABIP .402
Stewart: BB% 9.7 K% 18.8  LD% 17.9 BABIP .221

 

so you don't like his games stats at all? I know your point was that his goods stats were at PCL even you have to admit he has far outdistanced what you thought he would do. Yes, I know it's a small sample and could change a lot. The Angels are 2nd favorite team and I follow/watch them alot. When Mike Scioscia sings a hitters praises and says he has to have him in the line-up I tend to believe him. The kid is good, and should continue to improve on last year's rookie numbers. Just based on Marmol falling apart and his contract I take that trade in a heartbeat, of course hindsight is 20/20

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[Splendid Splinter]

If anyone's curious(and why would you be, why would anyone compare the 2??), here are the numbers on Trumbo and Stewart.

Trumbo:  BB% 9.3 K% 21.7  LD% 19.3 BABIP .402
Stewart: BB% 9.7 K% 18.8  LD% 17.9 BABIP .221

 

so you don't like his games stats at all? I know your point was that his goods stats were at PCL even you have to admit he has far outdistanced what you thought he would do. Yes, I know it's a small sample and could change a lot. The Angels are 2nd favorite team and I follow/watch them alot. When Mike Scioscia sings a hitters praises and says he has to have him in the line-up I tend to believe him. The kid is good, and should continue to improve on last year's rookie numbers. Just based on Marmol falling apart and his contract I take that trade in a heartbeat, of course hindsight is 20/20

 

This is awesome on so many level.

 

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Edited May 24, 2012 by Splendid Splinter

[Guest]

I've seen concern over his low walk total and lack of power this year on multiple occasions.

 

So have I. And I've discussed it myself.

[erik316wttn]

I knew this team was bad, but not "worst team in baseball" bad. Holy crap.

[neely crenshaw]

I've seen concern over his low walk total and lack of power this year on multiple occasions.

 

So have I. And I've discussed it myself.

 

you also said there's no way way this teams losing 100, or actually that it only wins 65 (so 97 losses).

 

I found this painfully clear this week. If you guys like or support and argument on a certain player then certain stats matter. If you take the opposite side then different stats matter or there is a reason that "his stats" don't matter.

 

His OB% went up every the 2nd season at every level. Showing improvement at 3 different levels.So outrageous that he may just improve this year. I know someone will have a theory that explains how despite getting better every time, that it really says that he won't.

His PCL stats were his best, but he drew 58 walks in 139 games. His slugging was up about 70-75 points over his average. Which did put his OPS in a very high 900's rating but if he slugged his norm , he still would have been in the 800's.

He has 12 walks this year-almost half of last years total. Stewart has 15. He has 6 hrs. Stewart has 4.

He hit 29 last year. His last 4 years in the minors (only 1 in PCL) his totals are: 32, 26. 15, 36. Not sure where his power is lacking.

 

I'm sure his slugging and ob% will drop some but why would you think he'd finish .330, and somewhere .450-470 which is the least he's had since first year in A ball. That would put him in a 24 hr, high 700 to 800 OPS. which again outside of A ball he has had that EVERY SEASON. Stewart has had a high of .785, and then .781

Exactly what stats matter? What history matters?

Scioscia (a meat head, really?)may have missed a few, but he is one of the most respected managers. Should we bring up names like Lackey, or Crawford, or Scutaro? Everyone can miss on a player

 

All this because I dared to have the opinion that maybe we should trade Marmol to the Angels, who had a new first baseman and badly lacked a closer. (they are on their 4th one now I believe, currently using scott downs and frieri) It so pains you to just admit that He may of actually been right.

[Guest]

I've seen concern over his low walk total and lack of power this year on multiple occasions.

 

So have I. And I've discussed it myself.

 

you also said there's no way way this teams losing 100, or actually that it only wins 65 (so 97 losses).

 

I found this painfully clear this week. If you guys like or support and argument on a certain player then certain stats matter. If you take the opposite side then different stats matter or there is a reason that "his stats" don't matter.

 

His OB% went up every the 2nd season at every level. Showing improvement at 3 different levels.So outrageous that he may just improve this year. I know someone will have a theory that explains how despite getting better every time, that it really says that he won't.

His PCL stats were his best, but he drew 58 walks in 139 games. His slugging was up about 70-75 points over his average. Which did put his OPS in a very high 900's rating but if he slugged his norm , he still would have been in the 800's.

He has 12 walks this year-almost half of last years total. Stewart has 15. He has 6 hrs. Stewart has 4.

He hit 29 last year. His last 4 years in the minors (only 1 in PCL) his totals are: 32, 26. 15, 36. Not sure where his power is lacking.

 

I'm sure his slugging and ob% will drop some but why would you think he'd finish .330, and somewhere .450-470 which is the least he's had since first year in A ball. That would put him in a 24 hr, high 700 to 800 OPS. which again outside of A ball he has had that EVERY SEASON. Stewart has had a high of .785, and then .781

Exactly what stats matter? What history matters?

Scioscia (a meat head, really?)may have missed a few, but he is one of the most respected managers. Should we bring up names like Lackey, or Crawford, or Scutaro? Everyone can miss on a player

 

All this because I dared to have the opinion that maybe we should trade Marmol to the Angels, who had a new first baseman and badly lacked a closer. (they are on their 4th one now I believe, currently using scott downs and frieri) It so pains you to just admit that He may of actually been right.

 

I stand by this, barring Garza and Dempster being traded.

 

But I know you think I have been proven wrong after a bad (horrible) week.

[SouthSideRyan]

Nobody cared about trading Marmol, it was that penciling in Mark Trumbo as your first baseman of the future was and is stupid.

 

ETA: And until you can learn to cite stats correctly, I don't see what the point of arguing with you is. You can't go one post without misreading a statline.

[CubColtPacer]

I still wouldn't trust Trumbo, but he has been significantly better not only in results (where he has been very lucky with a BABIP of .389) but peripherally as well. He's on pace for a good season. There very well could be improvement there that has been masked by his strange lack of power in 2009 and his dismissed PCL fueled stats of 2010. But there's still enough confusion in there that I wouldn't trust him with the most important offensive position on the field. But he could very easily be a productive player for the next few years.