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Oh man, not the truck; they'll lose all of their valuable players.

 

Knob.

 

You're the worst.

 

No, really...give us another list of the valuable offensive assets that the Cubs have that they'll part ways with and make them so much worse.

 

The few good players they have they need to hold on to and the rest are garbage. Dempster is the main exception, but who knows if he'll accept a trade. DeJesus is about the only other one who could possibly net some value, but the argument could be made they'll need him back, y'know, unless next year is going to be another "oh, we're going to tank because you gotta be worst before you can the best" fun fest.

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Beastly...

 

Cubs manager Dale Sveum said Sunday that Rafael Dolis will be removed from the closer role.

Dolis hit the Pirates' Matt Hague with the bases loaded to force in the winning run Saturday and has been scored upon in five of his last six appearances. He also has a woeful 11/15 K/BB ratio on the year. The Cubs are expected to go with a combination of James Russell and Shawn Camp in the ninth inning.

 

So if Russell is to be moved to the closer role, won't they have to call up another lefty? Do they have another in it already? I've lost track of which horrible junk ballers are up at this point.

 

Maine has been back and forth so far this year, currently in Iowa, I believe. Beliveau is also on the 40-man but he has some talent and it's his first year at AAA so we probably won't see him for awhile.

 

Beliveau is on the Iowa DL with a left shoulder strain.

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why do we even need to designate or have a closer.

and we do we need to even make a statement when we change them? If we ever have a save chance just send someone out there, until then just put in whoever you think has the best match up.

Bottom line is there is a 50/50 chance that camp's arm will fall off at some point this season.

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Oh man, not the truck; they'll lose all of their valuable players.

 

Knob.

 

You're the worst.

 

No, really...give us another list of the valuable offensive assets that the Cubs have that they'll part ways with and make them so much worse.

 

The few good players they have they need to hold on to and the rest are garbage. Dempster is the main exception, but who knows if he'll accept a trade. DeJesus is about the only other one who could possibly net some value, but the argument could be made they'll need him back, y'know, unless next year is going to be another "oh, we're going to tank because you gotta be worst before you can the best" fun fest.

ok it will probably be a small truck but:

it makes sense that dempster and garza are traded for as much as possible..which will bring us to volstad and colemen? or possibly mcnutt. either way at the very least you are downgraded from dempster/garza. soriano could be gone at some point to an AL team to be dh. Talk was that it would be after dempster/garza were moved to make the salary hit tolerable (it would have to be done ala zambrano) so we would have better defense but no sure thing to match soriano's offense (limited as it is). with offense as is, and a chance that pitching will take a hit thru trades we are certainly looking at 100 losses and without a significant offense boost from rizzo or someone else, we could be looking at something much, much worse.

this is not even factoring in that it will be tough for even our solid guys to play well everyday when they are losing at such a clip, it will sometimes steamroll a team.

As for Dejesus. We can use him but if you are horrible it is better to be horrible and young, rather than horrible and old. We are lacking prospects. If we can a get a few for anyone, then why not(other than any young talent we have). If we are going to lose 95, then does it matter if we trade any commodity and that causes us to lose 100? or 105? Right now it doesn't make sense to worry about keeping any veteran just for the sake of being less horrible this year or next. Because looking at the minors, and what we have here I don't see any chance without a huge spending spree that we will be much more than mediocre next year

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They're not trading Garza. It's a very real possibility that Dempster won't accept a trade. DeJesus isn't going to net you much even if they do move him, and no, Soriano isn't going to get the Cubs anything of value outside of MAYBE a tiny bit of salary relief.. That's part of the catch-22 of being horrible; even though that's when you want to have a fire sale your assets are mostly terrible.
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Beastly...

 

Cubs manager Dale Sveum said Sunday that Rafael Dolis will be removed from the closer role.

Dolis hit the Pirates' Matt Hague with the bases loaded to force in the winning run Saturday and has been scored upon in five of his last six appearances. He also has a woeful 11/15 K/BB ratio on the year. The Cubs are expected to go with a combination of James Russell and Shawn Camp in the ninth inning.

 

So if Russell is to be moved to the closer role, won't they have to call up another lefty? Do they have another in it already? I've lost track of which horrible junk ballers are up at this point.

 

Maine has been back and forth so far this year, currently in Iowa, I believe. Beliveau is also on the 40-man but he has some talent and it's his first year at AAA so we probably won't see him for awhile.

 

Beliveau is on the Iowa DL with a left shoulder strain.

 

A. When did this happen?

B. are they going to promote Rhoderick or Cabrera or see what Chad Fox is up to these days?

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Oh man, not the truck; they'll lose all of their valuable players.

 

Knob.

 

You're the worst.

 

No, really...give us another list of the valuable offensive assets that the Cubs have that they'll part ways with and make them so much worse.

 

The few good players they have they need to hold on to and the rest are garbage. Dempster is the main exception, but who knows if he'll accept a trade. DeJesus is about the only other one who could possibly net some value, but the argument could be made they'll need him back, y'know, unless next year is going to be another "oh, we're going to tank because you gotta be worst before you can the best" fun fest.

 

The valueable offensive assets are Castro and DeJesus, one of which isn't going anywhere, the other I wouldn't expect to. As for the rest, even if there was a mass exodus of guys like Mather, Johnson, and Baker, they'd likely be replaced with guys like Sappelt, Valbuana, and maybe Rizzo.

 

Dempster would be replaced by Volstad, Coleman, or Wells, which may sound like a downgrade, but when the offense isn't going to score anyway, it doesn't make a difference if you have Walter Johnson or Les Walrond on the mound.

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Oh man, not the truck; they'll lose all of their valuable players.

 

Knob.

 

You're the worst.

 

No, really...give us another list of the valuable offensive assets that the Cubs have that they'll part ways with and make them so much worse.

 

The few good players they have they need to hold on to and the rest are garbage. Dempster is the main exception, but who knows if he'll accept a trade. DeJesus is about the only other one who could possibly net some value, but the argument could be made they'll need him back, y'know, unless next year is going to be another "oh, we're going to tank because you gotta be worst before you can the best" fun fest.

 

The valueable offensive assets are Castro and DeJesus, one of which isn't going anywhere, the other I wouldn't expect to. As for the rest, even if there was a mass exodus of guys like Mather, Johnson, and Baker, they'd likely be replaced with guys like Sappelt, Valbuana, and maybe Rizzo.

 

Dempster would be replaced by Volstad, Coleman, or Wells, which may sound like a downgrade, but when the offense isn't going to score anyway, it doesn't make a difference if you have Walter Johnson or Les Walrond on the mound.

 

WHOOOOOOOSH

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Oh man, not the truck; they'll lose all of their valuable players.

 

Knob.

 

You're the worst.

 

No, really...give us another list of the valuable offensive assets that the Cubs have that they'll part ways with and make them so much worse.

 

The few good players they have they need to hold on to and the rest are garbage. Dempster is the main exception, but who knows if he'll accept a trade. DeJesus is about the only other one who could possibly net some value, but the argument could be made they'll need him back, y'know, unless next year is going to be another "oh, we're going to tank because you gotta be worst before you can the best" fun fest.

 

The valueable offensive assets are Castro and DeJesus, one of which isn't going anywhere, the other I wouldn't expect to. As for the rest, even if there was a mass exodus of guys like Mather, Johnson, and Baker, they'd likely be replaced with guys like Sappelt, Valbuana, and maybe Rizzo.

 

Dempster would be replaced by Volstad, Coleman, or Wells, which may sound like a downgrade, but when the offense isn't going to score anyway, it doesn't make a difference if you have Walter Johnson or Les Walrond on the mound.

 

WHOOOOOOOSH

 

I got nothing. Hopefully the suckage doesn't last longer than another season. And while our garbage is far from valuable, they could be of minor value to contenders, and Theo and Co. should be able to dig deep enough into teams farm systems that they should be able to get the best PTBNL value for crap like Baker, Johnson, Camp, and Mather.

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