Dempster Traded to Texas for 3B Villanueva & RHP Hendricks

[Guest]

Would saying that Reed is essentially Lefty Cashner as a prospect be a totally outrageous thing to say?

 

Nah, it's pretty accurate.

Cashner was a better prospect with a higher ceiling, imo.

[Gilby]

Reed has also already had shoulder problems, something I'm not sure Cashner had as a prospect.

[Gilby]

I like how Kaplan points out that Gerardo Concepcion helps us turnaround our near the bottom ranked farm system.

 

Yea, he's not paying attention.

 

He does know that Baez has had a hard time adjusting to pro ball though.

[PrimeTime]

So is this going down tonight sometime or is Dempster gonna think about it for another week,gather his thoughts while he takes his plane ride today or whatever the hell he told the Tribune?

[Shilzzz]

Dodgers have not done moves corresponding to a deal which would likely proceed a Dempster deal. Some shufflings, but not adequately so.

[Have a seat, Neifi]

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN

To this point, Ryan Dempster continues to hold firm in his preference to go to LAD. Cubs trying to make chicken salad out of this situation.

[Exile on Waveland]

Kapman's Blog Post: http://www.csnchicago.com/baseball-chicago-cubs/cubs-talk/Kap-Cubs-moving-closer-to-trading-Dempst?blockID=746853&feedID=8487

 

 

Also from that blog post...

 

While the fan base is hopeful of major free agent signings next winter to accelerate the major league club’s turnaround, a former GM confirmed to me that is not the game plan he hears Epstein and Co. have drawn up.

 

“The Cubs are a long way from contending and they will not be active in high-profile free agents for at least another year if not two. Theo has carte blanche from Tom Ricketts to spend a lot of money when he feels it is warranted but until he believes that the major league team is ready to take a big step up and contend, he is going to stick to his long term plan.

 

"I’d look for a few more David DeJesus-type signings in the next off season. Fans who are expecting big names and big money deals will be disappointed, but I agree with what they are doing. That system was so badly broken and the organization so poorly constructed for a very long time that a complete tear down is the only way they can fix all of the problems,” he told me.

 

Not surprising; though disappointing. If they didn't spend last off-season, I'm not sure what has changed to make them spend this off-season.

[seanimal]

shania HATES chicken salad

[treebird]

shania HATES chicken salad

 

she hates mayo all right

[Have a seat, Neifi]

Heyman:

 

The Cubs offered to send Ryan Dempster to his preferred Dodgers straight up for solid right-handed pitching prospect Allen Webster, but the Dodgers have rejected the offer.

 

The issue seems to be this: the Dodgers don't love Dempster as much as he loves them.

 

According to people briefed on the talks, the Dodgers have thus far offered a couple of lesser prospects, guys who may project as relievers.

 

The Dodgers, it seems, are much more interested in a different Cubs pitcher, Matt Garza.

 

It's possible the Dodgers are playing hardball because they're holding the cards. But word is, they do indeed prefer Garza.

 

The Braves, meanwhile, are disappointed but say they have moved on after originally believing Dempster would approve a trade to Atlanta before Dempster did an about face and rejected the trade. Dempster is said to have at first told Braves players he would go, and apparently all the folks making the trade understood that as well.

 

The Braves, who were originally committed to trading top prospect Randall Delgado to Chicago for Dempster, are now telling people that there's a value to having players who want to play for them and suggesting that there's little likelihood they'd take Dempster even if he came crawling back. They are now trying to trade for Zack Greinke.

[davell]

Heyman says Dodgers prefer Garza, want to give up relievers for Dempster. Again, more posturing.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Heyman:

 

The Cubs offered to send Ryan Dempster to his preferred Dodgers straight up for solid right-handed pitching prospect Allen Webster, but the Dodgers have rejected the offer.

 

So in other words, Dempster completely screwed our negotiating leverage and the Dodgers know it.

 

*chants "Cashner for Rizzo* to feel better*

[Have a seat, Neifi]

Heyman:

 

The Cubs offered to send Ryan Dempster to his preferred Dodgers straight up for solid right-handed pitching prospect Allen Webster, but the Dodgers have rejected the offer.

 

So in other words, Dempster completely screwed our negotiating leverage and the Dodgers know it.

 

*chants "Cashner for Rizzo* to feel better*

Yea, we're pretty much effed on getting anything even resembling Delgado at this point.

[PrimeTime]

God damn you Dempster. The Dodgers know they have the Cubs by the balls. Good job crying how you only yearn and desire the Dodgers.

[illiniguy]

Ryan really just wanted to help the Cubs out though, poor guy. :banghead: Edited July 27, 2012 by illiniguy

[Shilzzz]

this trade deadline for the cubs is starting to look like the cardinal's female fan base.

[ctcf]

[expletive] you, Ryan.

[Vinestal]

[expletive] Dempster, just keep him and throw him in the pen for the rest of the year. EWLDKLWDOWPADK

[Elrhino]

So the best the Cubs can get from the Dodgers is their AA reliever with the shredded shoulder, or some other equivalent of damaged goods?

 

This is impossible. Castro's Spray Chart assured me that we were going to get a package the equal of, if not better, than Delgado, and then he was going to come and laugh at us for doubting his genius insight.

[PrimeTime]

Theo could probably throw a bag of kittens into a wood chipper at this point. Holy [expletive]. End this misery already.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Again, if it came down to it I'm not sure how the draft pick or another year of Dempster for 12.5 MM would be the worst thing in the world.

[23sharks]

Again, if it came down to it I'm not sure how the draft pick or another year of Dempster for 12.5 MM would be the worst thing in the world.

 

After this stunt, I think he's worn out his welcome in Chicago....

[Cubswin11]

The solution here is simple, trade Dempster for Dwight Howard

[Gilby]

Heyman:

 

The Cubs offered to send Ryan Dempster to his preferred Dodgers straight up for solid right-handed pitching prospect Allen Webster, but the Dodgers have rejected the offer.

 

The issue seems to be this: the Dodgers don't love Dempster as much as he loves them.

 

According to people briefed on the talks, the Dodgers have thus far offered a couple of lesser prospects, guys who may project as relievers.

 

The Dodgers, it seems, are much more interested in a different Cubs pitcher, Matt Garza.

 

It's possible the Dodgers are playing hardball because they're holding the cards. But word is, they do indeed prefer Garza.

 

The Braves, meanwhile, are disappointed but say they have moved on after originally believing Dempster would approve a trade to Atlanta before Dempster did an about face and rejected the trade. Dempster is said to have at first told Braves players he would go, and apparently all the folks making the trade understood that as well.

 

The Braves, who were originally committed to trading top prospect Randall Delgado to Chicago for Dempster, are now telling people that there's a value to having players who want to play for them and suggesting that there's little likelihood they'd take Dempster even if he came crawling back. They are now trying to trade for Zack Greinke.

 

Oh my. This is one of the most frustrating things I've ever read. I hope it is not all true.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Again, if it came down to it I'm not sure how the draft pick or another year of Dempster for 12.5 MM would be the worst thing in the world.

 

We're not getting a draft pick.