Dempster Traded to Texas for 3B Villanueva & RHP Hendricks

[davell]

Texas needs to get Greinke, in my opinion. Miami probably needs to keep Johnson. Let Anaheim go get Shields. Those things happen and we've got leverage again with LA. Atlanta comes back to the table and LA would need to ante up. Either way, my guess is Dempster accepts a trade to either, because his image has been damaged here, to the point I think he probably wants out now. If those things happen, it also leaves one of those two in play on Garza(if he pitches Monday), along with Boston, Toronto, Washington, Baltimore, and the Cards.

[davell]

I call turgid mammaries FTW.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Texas needs to get Greinke, in my opinion. Miami probably needs to keep Johnson. Let Anaheim go get Shields. Those things happen and we've got leverage again with LA. Atlanta comes back to the table and LA would need to ante up. Either way, my guess is Dempster accepts a trade to either, because his image has been damaged here, to the point I think he probably wants out now. If those things happen, it also leaves one of those two in play on Garza(if he pitches Monday), along with Boston, Toronto, Washington, Baltimore, and the Cards.

 

The main thing that comes to mind for me is if Dempster really is dead set on either staying in Chicago or going to LA, that gives us not 1 but 3 teams to work with. Each of which are contending, each of which have been in the hunt for starting pitching. The White Sox farm system may be lacking, but they must have something, and we have the right guys to find it.

[82TonyM]

Kaplan just stated the hole created by Eovaldi being traded means the Dodgers could be back in for Dempster to fill his rotation spot. Zach Lee back on the table?

[ctcf]

Kaplan just stated the hole created by Eovaldi being traded means the Dodgers could be back in for Dempster to fill his rotation spot. Zach Lee back on the table?

 

No

[Deeg]

Kaplan just stated the hole created by Eovaldi being traded means the Dodgers could be back in for Dempster to fill his rotation spot. Zach Lee back on the table?

 

There's absolutely zero chance the Dodgers would include Lee for Dempster, given that the Cubs are in an even weaker position than they were before Dempster kneecapped them. Frankly I think it's extremely unlikely they'd include Webster. Probably Gould or bust, in which case I'd keep Dempster and make him refuse a qualifying offer.

[Guest]

Kaplan just stated the hole created by Eovaldi being traded means the Dodgers could be back in for Dempster to fill his rotation spot. Zach Lee back on the table?

 

There's absolutely zero chance the Dodgers would include Lee for Dempster, given that the Cubs are in an even weaker position than they were before Dempster kneecapped them. Frankly I think it's extremely unlikely they'd include Webster. Probably Gould or bust, in which case I'd keep Dempster and make him refuse a qualifying offer.

There's a really high likelihood that Gould is better than anyone they'd get with a supplemental pick.

[davell]

Not really. I was listing those teams for Garza, because he'd be the biggest name left. But there's plenty of other backend types out there. Vargas, Nolasco, Liriano, and Blanton, off the top of my head. I figure there's more too. As well as Maholm has pitched, I'd wonder with a relatively high asking price, if teams wouldn't settle for one of those other guys. With his option next year, he holds some value, to us and other teams as well. My guess is we want a similar package that Houston just got for Wandy. And I could see teams shying away and taking one of those guys, with a lesser price, because the results going forward could be the same.

[davell]

Kaplan just stated the hole created by Eovaldi being traded means the Dodgers could be back in for Dempster to fill his rotation spot. Zach Lee back on the table?

 

There's absolutely zero chance the Dodgers would include Lee for Dempster, given that the Cubs are in an even weaker position than they were before Dempster kneecapped them. Frankly I think it's extremely unlikely they'd include Webster. Probably Gould or bust, in which case I'd keep Dempster and make him refuse a qualifying offer.

There's a really high likelihood that Gould is better than anyone they'd get with a supplemental pick.

Gould was a supplemental rounder himself. But we won't be getting a pick for Dempster und er r any circumstance. I could see myself forgetting about Delgado, if we got Webster AND Gould for Dempster, which is pretty unlikely, to say the least.

[Guest]

Kaplan just stated the hole created by Eovaldi being traded means the Dodgers could be back in for Dempster to fill his rotation spot. Zach Lee back on the table?

 

There's absolutely zero chance the Dodgers would include Lee for Dempster, given that the Cubs are in an even weaker position than they were before Dempster kneecapped them. Frankly I think it's extremely unlikely they'd include Webster. Probably Gould or bust, in which case I'd keep Dempster and make him refuse a qualifying offer.

There's a really high likelihood that Gould is better than anyone they'd get with a supplemental pick.

Gould was a supplemental rounder himself. But we won't be getting a pick for Dempster und er r any circumstance. I could see myself forgetting about Delgado, if we got Webster AND Gould for Dempster, which is pretty unlikely, to say the least.

Well, there is a circumstance in which we'd get a pick. It's just unlikely to happen.

[ctcf]

I really wish they had gotten Delgado, because his twitter account is a [expletive] masterpiece machine.

 

randall delgado ‏@RandallDelgado

They don't did a trade

[davell]

Kaplan just stated the hole created by Eovaldi being traded means the Dodgers could be back in for Dempster to fill his rotation spot. Zach Lee back on the table?

 

There's absolutely zero chance the Dodgers would include Lee for Dempster, given that the Cubs are in an even weaker position than they were before Dempster kneecapped them. Frankly I think it's extremely unlikely they'd include Webster. Probably Gould or bust, in which case I'd keep Dempster and make him refuse a qualifying offer.

There's a really high likelihood that Gould is better than anyone they'd get with a supplemental pick.

Gould was a supplemental rounder himself. But we won't be getting a pick for Dempster und er r any circumstance. I could see myself forgetting about Delgado, if we got Webster AND Gould for Dempster, which is pretty unlikely, to say the least.

Well, there is a circumstance in which we'd get a pick. It's just unlikely to happen.

Sure, just can't see a team punting their allotment for Dempster. I guess it's possible a team picking INSIDE the top 10 could do it and lose their 2nd rounder. Still hard to even see thst though.

[Guest]

There's absolutely zero chance the Dodgers would include Lee for Dempster, given that the Cubs are in an even weaker position than they were before Dempster kneecapped them. Frankly I think it's extremely unlikely they'd include Webster. Probably Gould or bust, in which case I'd keep Dempster and make him refuse a qualifying offer.

There's a really high likelihood that Gould is better than anyone they'd get with a supplemental pick.

Gould was a supplemental rounder himself. But we won't be getting a pick for Dempster und er r any circumstance. I could see myself forgetting about Delgado, if we got Webster AND Gould for Dempster, which is pretty unlikely, to say the least.

Well, there is a circumstance in which we'd get a pick. It's just unlikely to happen.

Sure, just can't see a team punting their allotment for Dempster. I guess it's possible a team picking INSIDE the top 10 could do it and lose their 2nd rounder. Still hard to even see thst though.

What about someone like Pitt thinking that Demp could make them competitive next year while having the Appel rollover money?

[davell]

That's a great idea, but my guess is it'd depend on who else was out there without the tender. If Marcum, McCarthy, maybe even an Ervin Santana was out there, I'd think they'd prefer that direction and having the big draft budget and the flexibility that goes with it.

[Deeg]

If you have faith in your scouts, you have to believe they could do better than Gould with a compensatory pick. And it seems unlikely to me that Dempster would accept a qualifying offer, given that this will be his last chance at a big check as a FA. Whether anyone is willing to sign him and give up their pick is another matter, but I would think Theo would roll the dice rather than trade him for scraps with a gun to his head.

[Laura]

Pardon my ignorance, but how much would a qualifying offer be?

[A New Era]

I thought I heard 12.5.

[davell]

I think it'll be around that, but I think it'll change every year, because it's based on the average of the top 120 salaries in MLB each year.

[A New Era]

so basically it will keep going up.

[Laura]

That sign alone will break any resolve he has.

[A New Era]

What do you mean?

[neely crenshaw]

the problem we could run into is that with the pick up of rameriz, the dodgers may not feel they need dempster. the will get lilly back soon, which gives them kershaw, billlingsley, capuano,lilly and harang, pitching hasn't been their problem, health has and missing kemp,either and gordan has. kemp/either are back, rameriz is in the fold, they may feel good for the stretch.

[drewha]

It wouldn't surprise me if he comes out and says he wants to be a Cub.

 

i think this could be really true, though i think he's quite open to going to the dodgers, too.

 

i had a dream about this last night - i know, i'm embarrassed, too.

 

it's not usual behavior, i think, for a gm to leak a report to their own website like that. sure, there are leaks and sources everywhere. but it's just a little bit weird how the atlanta gm has talked around the whole situation. we have a bit too much inside information from too high of a source - a named gm!

 

so, i'm thinking that the atlanta gm knew at that point the dempster would (or very strongly might) refuse the trade, and wren decided to use his last tool: public pressure. he figured he might have nothing to lose, but demp might say yes is it ll became public.

 

don't know, but i was (i guess) still thinking about it.

[Banedon]

the problem we could run into is that with the pick up of rameriz, the dodgers may not feel they need dempster. the will get lilly back soon, which gives them kershaw, billlingsley, capuano,lilly and harang, pitching hasn't been their problem, health has and missing kemp,either and gordan has. kemp/either are back, rameriz is in the fold, they may feel good for the stretch.

 

So your theory is that the Dodgers don't need pitching anymore, because they got a 3B?

[ShawonOmeter12]

would atl be interested in maholm if we paid rest of salary this yr and all of option next yr? it would be close to same $ as demp for us and for atl it would give them a good sp this yr plus they get him all of next yr for free. to me that would be better for them then dempster. just trying to come up with ways for us to get delgado still!