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If he doesn't change his mind and get dealt by the deadline, I'd sit him the rest of the year.

 

Why? Dempster was within his rights to torpedo the trade. He exercised those rights. How can you support punishing some one that has done nothing wrong?

He's well within his rights to nix the trade (which he has yet to). He's well within his rights to lie and mislead his employers too, but that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve flack for it.

 

Is sitting him the rest of the year flack or punishment? Seriously, I'm ticked off that Dempster hasn't agreed to the trade, but when employees are given rights you have to expect them to exercise them from time to time. And you shouldn't expect that the employee is punished when they do so.

 

You don't sit him. You leave him in there for 130+ pitches the rest of the way.

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@PWSullivan

 

Demp admits he was unhappy about being taken out, still respects Sveum.

You don't sit him. You leave him in there for 130+ pitches the rest of the way.

Apparently that's what he wants. At least for now.

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If he doesn't change his mind and get dealt by the deadline, I'd sit him the rest of the year.

 

Why? Dempster was within his rights to torpedo the trade. He exercised those rights. How can you support punishing some one that has done nothing wrong?

 

The thing that he may very well have done wrong is lie to his bosses about his intentions.

 

This isn't true unless you want to call the FO liars too. There have been reports that they themselves thought that this could be an issue. If Dempster had flat out said he agreed to the trade the FO would have been surprised with this string of events.

 

That's a BS attempt at explaining away the realities of what's actually been said about the matter.

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@PWSullivan

 

Demp admits he was unhappy about being taken out, still respects Sveum.

 

He felt he could give up more runs.

 

Dempster had no business coming out after the 6th. Continuing in that situation played a pretty big part in some of how disappointing outcomes last year, like when he fell apart against Pittsburgh after he should have been pulled on opening day. He faced 74 PA last year after the 100 pitch mark and had a 911 OPS in those situations. This year he's had just 15 PA past 100.

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If he doesn't change his mind and get dealt by the deadline, I'd sit him the rest of the year.

 

Why? Dempster was within his rights to torpedo the trade. He exercised those rights. How can you support punishing some one that has done nothing wrong?

He's well within his rights to nix the trade (which he has yet to). He's well within his rights to lie and mislead his employers too, but that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve flack for it.

 

Is sitting him the rest of the year flack or punishment? Seriously, I'm ticked off that Dempster hasn't agreed to the trade, but when employees are given rights you have to expect them to exercise them from time to time. And you shouldn't expect that the employee is punished when they do so.

You don't sit him or bench him or relegate him to the bullpen. That's silly overreaction. I didn't day the FO should punish him. But you better believe he deserves the flack and ill will (not death threats) for lying to the front office, diminishing his trade value, etc. He wasted the FO's time and has hurt the organization's chances of getting good value going forward. Heck, he might have hurt his chances to get another long term contract. That's his punishment.

 

No one here was upset when Aramis declined being traded because he was up front with the Cubs. That's all Dempster needed to do.

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Patrick Mooney ‏@CSNMooney

Demp on Braves: If that’s still an option down the road, then that’s something I might look at to make the best decision for me/my family.

 

FFS

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Brett Taylor ‏@BleacherNation

RT @TBrownYahoo Cubs knew this could be a possibility with Dempster. Remained in touch with Dodgers yesterday on Dempster and Garza.

 

This says otherwise Gooney.

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If he doesn't change his mind and get dealt by the deadline, I'd sit him the rest of the year.

 

Why? Dempster was within his rights to torpedo the trade. He exercised those rights. How can you support punishing some one that has done nothing wrong?

He's well within his rights to nix the trade (which he has yet to). He's well within his rights to lie and mislead his employers too, but that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve flack for it.

 

Is sitting him the rest of the year flack or punishment? Seriously, I'm ticked off that Dempster hasn't agreed to the trade, but when employees are given rights you have to expect them to exercise them from time to time. And you shouldn't expect that the employee is punished when they do so.

You don't sit him or bench him or relegate him to the bullpen. That's silly overreaction. I didn't day the FO should punish him. But you better believe he deserves the flack and ill will (not death threats) for lying to the front office, diminishing his trade value, etc. He wasted the FO's time and has hurt the organization's chances of getting good value going forward. Heck, he might have hurt his chances to get another long term contract. That's his punishment.

 

No one here was upset when Aramis declined being traded because he was up front with the Cubs. That's all Dempster needed to do.

 

I can agree with you on flack, I don't agree with anyone saying he should be punished.

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If he doesn't change his mind and get dealt by the deadline, I'd sit him the rest of the year.

 

Why? Dempster was within his rights to torpedo the trade. He exercised those rights. How can you support punishing some one that has done nothing wrong?

He's well within his rights to nix the trade (which he has yet to). He's well within his rights to lie and mislead his employers too, but that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve flack for it.

 

Is sitting him the rest of the year flack or punishment? Seriously, I'm ticked off that Dempster hasn't agreed to the trade, but when employees are given rights you have to expect them to exercise them from time to time. And you shouldn't expect that the employee is punished when they do so.

 

You don't sit him. You leave him in there for 130+ pitches the rest of the way.

 

YEAH THAT'S A GREAT IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Patrick Mooney ‏@CSNMooney

Demp on Braves: If that’s still an option down the road, then that’s something I might look at to make the best decision for me/my family.

 

FFS

 

He seriously needs to STFU.

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My guess is the next domino to fall is Dodgers trading Zach Lee, Webster, and more to the Dodgers for Cliff Lee and Pence.
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Patrick Mooney ‏@CSNMooney

Demp on Braves: If that’s still an option down the road, then that’s something I might look at to make the best decision for me/my family.

 

FFS

 

Hilarious. Shameless, but hilarious.

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Patrick Mooney ‏@CSNMooney

Demp on Braves: If that’s still an option down the road, then that’s something I might look at to make the best decision for me/my family.

 

FFS

 

He seriously needs to STFU.

 

Then the media should probably stop asking him questions.

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YEAH THAT'S A GREAT IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Pitch him on 3 days rest, too.

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Patrick Mooney ‏@CSNMooney

Demp on Braves: If that’s still an option down the road, then that’s something I might look at to make the best decision for me/my family.

 

FFS

 

He seriously needs to STFU.

 

Then the media should probably stop asking him questions.

 

It's their job to ask questions. It isn't Dempster's job to make himself look even more foolish by answering them. A simple," no further comment" would suffice.

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My guess is the next domino to fall is Dodgers trading Zach Lee, Webster, and more to the Dodgers for Cliff Lee and Pence.

 

That would be pretty amazing.

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My guess is the next domino to fall is Dodgers trading Zach Lee, Webster, and more to the Dodgers for Cliff Lee and Pence.

 

Hmm.

 

Great deal for LA.

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