2011 MLB Draft Thread

[imb]

Lol, $7.5 is the same bonus strasburg got

[TruffleShuffle]

can't believe mahtook made it to 31... what a steal

[davell]

To be completely honest, I wasn't all that impressed with what Tampa did. I liked Ross and Mahtook was a VERY solid value that late, but I didn't care for Hager. Martin and Goedel were OK picks, but I thought Ames was a reach too. I like Kes Carter a bit, thought Snell was a bigtime overdraft, and really like Garvin. I'll be honest, I had never heard of Harris Jr, so I can't even comment on him. Volume is good and all, but I think I would have taken more chances and pulled a New England Patriots type deal. They have the ability to carry over picks from year to year, if they did this smartly. I think I would have went for a few big overslots and if you missed out on one or two, then fine, you've still got tons of quantity to go along with the one or two big guys you've signed as well. I just didn't see this out of them.

[imb]

What about Taylor Guerrieri?

[TruffleShuffle]

you can't go for "a few big overslots" when you're a team with tampa's resources and that huge number of early picks. you have to be realistic and reach a few times. as for getting picks back again next year, those lose the protection so they'd likely have to go safe with those next year, since tampa's bargaining power would be pretty poor if they were sitting there with 6 first and supplemental picks in 2012 and 4 of them are guys they just HAVE to sign.

[RammyFanny]

What about Taylor Guerrieri?

Yeah, i'm big on Guerrieri. He could be really really good. Wouldn't have minded him at 9 if it came down to it.

[davell]

What about Taylor Guerrieri?

 

 

Forgot about him and considering I wouldn't have minded the Cubs taking him at 9, it was my favorite Tampa pick. In the end, I guess I'd give them a B or so, but it's more of a quantity thing.

[Splendid Splinter]

To be completely honest, I wasn't all that impressed with what Tampa did. I liked Ross and Mahtook was a VERY solid value that late, but I didn't care for Hager. Martin and Goedel were OK picks, but I thought Ames was a reach too. I like Kes Carter a bit, thought Snell was a bigtime overdraft, and really like Garvin. I'll be honest, I had never heard of Harris Jr, so I can't even comment on him. Volume is good and all, but I think I would have taken more chances and pulled a New England Patriots type deal. They have the ability to carry over picks from year to year, if they did this smartly. I think I would have went for a few big overslots and if you missed out on one or two, then fine, you've still got tons of quantity to go along with the one or two big guys you've signed as well. I just didn't see this out of them.

 

That's how I felt as well esp. with how deep and how good this draft is... They could've really cash in on this draft and have an AMAZING farm system that could be better than the Royals farm system this year 2 years down the road IMO. I know they had 10 picks and that's a lot of money to go around, but if I was them, I would keep drafting until somewhere round 5-10 and then just quit picking. If there was a year to go big (on drafting BPA and spending) on a draft, this is it. I kept thinking that Rays were going to pick Daniel Norris or a C like Susac or Brett Austin or even take a flier on Josh Bell, but they didn't do that.

 

Red Sox on the other hand.... Barnes/Swihart/Owens/Jackie Bradley is a pretty good way to start a draft.

[davell]

you can't go for "a few big overslots" when you're a team with tampa's resources and that huge number of early picks. you have to be realistic and reach a few times. as for getting picks back again next year, those lose the protection so they'd likely have to go safe with those next year, since tampa's bargaining power would be pretty poor if they were sitting there with 6 first and supplemental picks in 2012 and 4 of them are guys they just HAVE to sign.

 

 

I thought that over the offseason they had decided to let everyone go, not really spend in FA so they'd have money to spend huge in the draft? Out of their top 12 picks, if it were me, I'd probably have tried an approach where you draft 6 big overslots and sign 2 of them. Out of the other 6 picks, go ahead and take signability guys. In the end, you're carrying 4 picks over to the next draft and have 2 frontline players to go along with a very nice core. I'm not sure they got anyone with HUGE talent other than Guerrieri and I think I'd have rather spent big on another guy to go with him and carry the rest of those picks over, since I wasn't impressed with Hager, Snell, Matthews, Ames, and Harris Jr. Maybe a little nit-picking, but I guess I just expected a little more innovative approach than what they did.

[Guest]

Damn, Joe Ross and Tyler Goeddel gone in the first day? Here's hoping one of them has unreasonable bonus demands and makes it to college.

[TruffleShuffle]

I know they had 10 picks and that's a lot of money to go around, but if I was them, I would keep drafting until somewhere round 5-10 and then just quit picking.

 

that wouldn't save them much money. slot money for guys drafted outside the top 10 is usually just a few grand.

[wekim81]

what time does this show kick back up today?

[Bruno7481]

To be completely honest, I wasn't all that impressed with what Tampa did. I liked Ross and Mahtook was a VERY solid value that late, but I didn't care for Hager. Martin and Goedel were OK picks, but I thought Ames was a reach too. I like Kes Carter a bit, thought Snell was a bigtime overdraft, and really like Garvin. I'll be honest, I had never heard of Harris Jr, so I can't even comment on him. Volume is good and all, but I think I would have taken more chances and pulled a New England Patriots type deal. They have the ability to carry over picks from year to year, if they did this smartly. I think I would have went for a few big overslots and if you missed out on one or two, then fine, you've still got tons of quantity to go along with the one or two big guys you've signed as well. I just didn't see this out of them.

 

Tampa has replaced Oakland in the eyes of many. I think Tampa does some very smart things. I also think that these has been an attitude emerge of "If Tampa did this then it must be right". Similar to how people used to look at Oakland's moves. These drafts are supremely hard to judge at this point in time. What looks like a good draft now could turn out to be the exact opposite in a few years.

[pitchcs]

what time does this show kick back up today?

 

11 central I think

[UK1679666180]

To be completely honest, I wasn't all that impressed with what Tampa did. I liked Ross and Mahtook was a VERY solid value that late, but I didn't care for Hager. Martin and Goedel were OK picks, but I thought Ames was a reach too. I like Kes Carter a bit, thought Snell was a bigtime overdraft, and really like Garvin. I'll be honest, I had never heard of Harris Jr, so I can't even comment on him. Volume is good and all, but I think I would have taken more chances and pulled a New England Patriots type deal. They have the ability to carry over picks from year to year, if they did this smartly. I think I would have went for a few big overslots and if you missed out on one or two, then fine, you've still got tons of quantity to go along with the one or two big guys you've signed as well. I just didn't see this out of them.

 

Tampa has replaced Oakland in the eyes of many. I think Tampa does some very smart things. I also think that these has been an attitude emerge of "If Tampa did this then it must be right". Similar to how people used to look at Oakland's moves. These drafts are supremely hard to judge at this point in time. What looks like a good draft now could turn out to be the exact opposite in a few years.

 

 

 

Tampa doesn't do anything unique, RJ Harrison is a traditional scouting director. They have very good scouts throughout, the only things they do differently is they lean more on the tools side and HS kids as well as being the most patient organization in regards to development.

[Guest]

I know they had 10 picks and that's a lot of money to go around, but if I was them, I would keep drafting until somewhere round 5-10 and then just quit picking.

 

that wouldn't save them much money. slot money for guys drafted outside the top 10 is usually just a few grand.

 

Also, that won't work because they actually need those picks to fill out all of their minor league squads.

[Men in Blue]

How did the Nationals manage to steal Brian Goodwin at no. 34? :banghead:

 

Anyone here that can tell me, anyone??

[jersey cubs fan]

How did the Nationals manage to steal Brian Goodwin at no. 34? :banghead:

 

Anyone here that can tell me, anyone??

 

Nobody picked him in the previous 33 selections.

[Tryptamine]

I take it there's no feed today and we'll have to watch the tracker instead.

[jersey cubs fan]

I take it there's no feed today and we'll have to watch the tracker instead.

 

I just turned on the audio from the tracker.

[RammyFanny]

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/draft/y2011/draftlive_app.jsp

[SouthSideRyan]

How did the Nationals manage to steal Brian Goodwin at no. 34? :banghead:

 

Anyone here that can tell me, anyone??

 

Nobody picked him in the previous 33 selections.

 

That doesn't sound like stealing at all. Sounds fairly legal.

[jersey cubs fan]

How did the Nationals manage to steal Brian Goodwin at no. 34? :banghead:

 

Anyone here that can tell me, anyone??

 

Nobody picked him in the previous 33 selections.

 

That doesn't sound like stealing at all. Sounds fairly legal.

 

In baseball, steals are legal.

[davell]

I was pretty high on Goodwin, but kind of think he's an Anthony Gose type prospect. Makeup concerns, iffy power, iffy plate discipline, but tons of speed.

[Tryptamine]

Wow the Pirates are really spending some money.