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It would take more time to organize a penalty to stop the clock or get a pair of random players to spike the ball than it would for the QB to spike the ball. North Carolina didn't get any advantage by committing that penalty.

no, but the way i see it the first idiot that can get to the ball could hike it to anyone in particular, who could spike it, regardless of the status, location or number of other players on the field. you would lose some yards, but the clock would stop and you would have time to get your field goal unit out there. this couldnt happen in the NFL because of the 10 sec runoff.

Maybe, but the ball still has to be spotted. The odds of the ball being spotted before the players are at least close to being set are quite small.

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It would take more time to organize a penalty to stop the clock or get a pair of random players to spike the ball than it would for the QB to spike the ball. North Carolina didn't get any advantage by committing that penalty.

no, but the way i see it the first idiot that can get to the ball could hike it to anyone in particular, who could spike it, regardless of the status, location or number of other players on the field. you would lose some yards, but the clock would stop and you would have time to get your field goal unit out there. this couldnt happen in the NFL because of the 10 sec runoff.

Maybe, but the ball still has to be spotted. The odds of the ball being spotted before the players are at least close to being set are quite small.

I watch more of the NFL than NCAA, and it seems there are plenty of times in the NFL the ball is spotted well before the team is lined up to take a legal snap. Especially when the last play didnt get many yards. Maybe college is different, less efficient with spotting.

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It would take more time to organize a penalty to stop the clock or get a pair of random players to spike the ball than it would for the QB to spike the ball. North Carolina didn't get any advantage by committing that penalty.

no, but the way i see it the first idiot that can get to the ball could hike it to anyone in particular, who could spike it, regardless of the status, location or number of other players on the field. you would lose some yards, but the clock would stop and you would have time to get your field goal unit out there. this couldnt happen in the NFL because of the 10 sec runoff.

Maybe, but the ball still has to be spotted. The odds of the ball being spotted before the players are at least close to being set are quite small.

I watch more of the NFL than NCAA, and it seems there are plenty of times in the NFL the ball is spotted well before the team is lined up to take a legal snap. Especially when the last play didnt get many yards. Maybe college is different, less efficient with spotting.

If there's a play down the field in college after which players have to run a decent way to get set, the clock is most likely going to stop on a first down anyways. That's not the case in the NFL. If it's a short play like the run last night, the players don't have very far to run and they're basically set or near set by the time the ball is spotted, especially when the defender lays on the ballcarrier for a few extra seconds.

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What calls were awful at the end of the Tennessee game exactly?

 

The last 30 seconds were not an exemplary display of officiating.

 

On the personal foul with about 25 seconds remaining (which is the right call), they ruled it a catch. While replay angles show the ball was not 100% secure, it was still not enough evidence to overturn the call. No problem with that. BUT, when you watch the replay, the receivers helmet is the first thing to hit the ground, and it lands out of bounds. Then after ruling that it was a catch, the referee puts one second on the clock... no big deal, except that one second basically determined the game's ending. And, it's what happened with 1 second left that is the problem.

 

UNC rushes the ball with about 13 seconds left, is tackled and has to rush to try to spike the ball. In the rush, they send out a bunch of linemen, and 5 of them realize they shouldn't be on the field and turn and try to run off. At the same time, the holder and kicker run out onto the field and get into place (and give UNC 12 men on the field- participating in the play), while the other 5 attempt to get off the field (which they do not manage to do.) UNC gets the ball snapped and spiked, and the refs announce that the game is over. Here are the problems...

 

1. They review the play to determine whether or not UNC got the ball spiked in time. Problem is, in football, the clock is not stopped when the ball hits the ground, but when the refs blow the play dead. No big deal, in my opinion here. They at least got that part right and corrected it.

 

2. They call 12 men on the field, which is not the technical penalty. The penalty is either illegal substitution (too many players in the huddle, etc) which is a 5 yarder and happens prior to the play (meaning it should have been called before the spike play got off, the 5 yards marked off and the clock started when the ref signaled ready for play.) Or the penalty is illegal participation, which is called after the play and is a 15 yarder. Clock restarts at the snap in that event. Problem is, they gave UNC the penalty post-play and only gave them 5 yards. Basically, it gave them a timeout.

 

3. Another flaw is that when an offense rushes players onto the field, the Referee is supposed to stand over the ball (while the clock is running) to allow the defense a chance to substitute players. With as many as 6 extra men running onto the field, at the very least, Tennessee should have been given a chance to substitute players, which would have ended the game.

 

Oh well... what should happen does not always happen, and Tennessee lost an exhibition game. And I'm convinced that only Tennessee could lose a game in that manner.

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I missed the start. Is Jacory Harris really that bad?

 

I didn't see the start either, but yes. He sucks.

hey, none of his passes hit the ground

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I missed the start. Is Jacory Harris really that bad?

 

I didn't see the start either, but yes. He sucks.

 

Mandel passed along a re-tweet saying that the Benjamin Button-like development of Harris has been something to behold.

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Moron clock operator gonna delay the game 5 minutes because he doesn't know to stop it.

 

he was probably a uga fan thinking that if ucf got happy because they thought they had won the game, it would be impossible for them to come back out and play well

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Someone needs to get a photo or gif of Steve Spurrier's face after the fourth South Carolina turnover. Just classic.
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Someone needs to get a photo or gif of Steve Spurrier's face after the fourth South Carolina turnover. Just classic.

 

He's had some of the best expressions I've ever seen throughout the years.

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After the Tulsa loss, ND was rather impressive the rest of the season.

 

I have been faced with the sad reality of MSU football. I dont think I have ever been that upset about not being able to watch some other games on NYD because of my need to watch MSU.

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really up and down year, but undefeated in Nov/Dec against some solid competition (admittedly, Miami wasn't that interested yesterday). Haven't been able to say that about and ND team in...years? decades?

 

But the final evaluation of any coach is record. For Kelly, 8 wins/2 deaths. Not a bad ratio. Hoping for closer to 10/1 next season.

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