Re: College Football - Bowl Games

[sweetpeteman]

ARI had an illegal formation penalty as they spiked the ball for a FG attempt to win the game (eligible rec. covered, I think). There was only 10 seconds left at the time of the spike, with ARI having no time outs, so if there was a run-off, the game would have ended, but apparently the illegal formation penalty didn't have a 10 sec runoff due to everyone being set.

 

I never knew that. That's dumb too, to be honest.

 

Touchdown Tennessee!!!

 

Eh, prevented the game from ending on a penalty, which would have been a really crappy ending to a good game.

[dew1679666265]

ARI had an illegal formation penalty as they spiked the ball for a FG attempt to win the game (eligible rec. covered, I think). There was only 10 seconds left at the time of the spike, with ARI having no time outs, so if there was a run-off, the game would have ended, but apparently the illegal formation penalty didn't have a 10 sec runoff due to everyone being set.

 

I never knew that. That's dumb too, to be honest.

 

Touchdown Tennessee!!!

 

Eh, prevented the game from ending on a penalty, which would have been a really crappy ending to a good game.

 

Like the earlier Dallas/Washington game?

 

If you're going to have the 10 second runoff, you should do it for all offensive penalties.

[dew1679666265]

And the interception will probably lose the game for us. Refs need to figure out what to do at the end of games. There's no reason why two games for us this season should have been declared wins and then reversed.

 

That's incredibly stupid.

[E.J.]

Eh, UConn was due for a loss. Back to the football game please.

[dew1679666265]

@SethEmerson Tennessee is now 6-2 in games they won this year.

[TheVolCub08]

That was confusing, but the right call by the officials.

 

 

 

The UNC Special Teams coach is going to have to explain why he started to send the FG unit out.

 

Big 10 officials...

 

b. participation by 12 or more players is illegal participation (a.r. 9-1-5-

i-vii).

PENALTY—15 yards from the previous spot [s28]. For fouls during

scrimmage kick plays (other than field goal plays): 15 yards

from the previous spot or 15 yards from the spot where the

subsequent dead ball belongs to Team B [s28].

 

Should have made that a 48 yarder.

[Careless]

I'm confused. Carolina had like 6 men in motion, that's an illegal procedure in addition to the other penalty, and doesn't that run 10 seconds off?

[dew1679666265]

Big 10 officials...

 

b. participation by 12 or more players is illegal participation (a.r. 9-1-5-

i-vii).

PENALTY—15 yards from the previous spot [s28]. For fouls during

scrimmage kick plays (other than field goal plays): 15 yards

from the previous spot or 15 yards from the spot where the

subsequent dead ball belongs to Team B [s28].

 

Should have made that a 48 yarder.

 

Wow, looks like they botched that even worse than I originally thought. Just terrible.

[dew1679666265]

I'm confused. Carolina had like 6 men in motion, that's an illegal procedure in addition to the other penalty, and doesn't that run 10 seconds off?

 

Dooley said there is no 10 second runoff rule in the NCAA period.

[abuck1220]

11+ people didn't participate in the play. that's a different penalty than too many men on the field.

[Careless]

I'm confused. Carolina had like 6 men in motion, that's an illegal procedure in addition to the other penalty, and doesn't that run 10 seconds off?

 

Dooley said there is no 10 second runoff rule in the NCAA period.

Oh, well that is really stupid

[abuck1220]

Big 10 officials...

 

b. participation by 12 or more players is illegal participation (a.r. 9-1-5-

i-vii).

PENALTY—15 yards from the previous spot [s28]. For fouls during

scrimmage kick plays (other than field goal plays): 15 yards

from the previous spot or 15 yards from the spot where the

subsequent dead ball belongs to Team B [s28].

 

Should have made that a 48 yarder.

 

Wow, looks like they botched that even worse than I originally thought. Just terrible.

 

how did they botch it? was there not 1 second left when he spiked it?

[dew1679666265]

how did they botch it? was there not 1 second left when he spiked it?

 

They announced the game was over when it, in reality, wasn't over. They were correct in reviewing it, but should not have announced the game was over – because it wasn't.

[dew1679666265]

11+ people didn't participate in the play. that's a different penalty than too many men on the field.

 

They were on the field and a play was run. Is that not participation?

[abuck1220]

how did they botch it? was there not 1 second left when he spiked it?

 

They announced the game was over when it, in reality, wasn't over. They were correct in reviewing it, but should not have announced the game was over – because it wasn't.

 

oh come on. what the hell difference does that make? is that "game over" proclamation binding or something?

[dew1679666265]

how did they botch it? was there not 1 second left when he spiked it?

 

They announced the game was over when it, in reality, wasn't over. They were correct in reviewing it, but should not have announced the game was over – because it wasn't.

 

oh come on. what the hell difference does that make? is that "game over" proclamation binding or something?

 

It should be. Refs shouldn't just be announcing the game is over when it isn't. If there's any question, don't make the announcement.

[Guest]

Considering Tennessee was getting away with cheap shots without penalties called seems like justification to me to let NC get away with just a 5 yard penalty. If they call the last flagrant, NC is kicking a chip shot field goal to tie the game anyway.

 

Call it a make up non call.

[dew1679666265]

Considering Tennessee was getting away with cheap shots without penalties called seems like justification to me to let NC get away with just a 5 yard penalty. If they call the last flagrant, NC is kicking a chip shot field goal to tie the game anyway.

 

Call it a make up non call.

 

I didn't see the game so I can't argue whether there were calls that should have been made, but what play are you talking about? The radio guys didn't indicate there were any calls that should have been made as far as cheap shots and even made the point that one replay on the 15-yarder called on Janzen Jackson was actually a blow to the shoulder pad and not the helmet, as was called.

[abuck1220]

how did they botch it? was there not 1 second left when he spiked it?

 

They announced the game was over when it, in reality, wasn't over. They were correct in reviewing it, but should not have announced the game was over – because it wasn't.

 

oh come on. what the hell difference does that make? is that "game over" proclamation binding or something?

 

It should be. Refs shouldn't just be announcing the game is over when it isn't. If there's any question, don't make the announcement.

 

that's beyond weak.

 

hard to feel sorry for tennessee after how they collapsed in that final drive. also, hard to feel sorry for any team that has that huge douche as a qb.

[abuck1220]

has a player ever made the throat slash gesture and cried within a 10 minute span?

[dew1679666265]

that's beyond weak.

 

hard to feel sorry for tennessee after how they collapsed in that final drive. also, hard to feel sorry for any team that has that huge douche as a qb.

 

It's accurate. The ref announced the game was over and the players began to celebrate. They relaxed and then all of a sudden, because of the erroneous call, they had to refocus. Emotion took over from that point on and North Carolina had every bit of the momentum.

 

Sure, we collapsed on that final drive and that's on the players. But the refs had a negative impact on the game and that's a shame for as great a game as it was.

[dew1679666265]

has a player ever made the throat slash gesture and cried within a 10 minute span?

 

It probably happened about the same time a team has been announced the winner twice in a season just to have the refs decide the game isn't really over.

[abuck1220]

how would you feel if you were a NC fan and the refs were like "oh yeah, sorry we blew that call, but already promised tennessee the game was over and they're really excited, so sorry." give me a break.

[Soul]

Big 10 officials had themselves some kind of terrible day.

 

I don't care about any of these teams but it's offensive to see games tip on bush league reffing.

[Guest]

Just a play or two before the field goal attempt, the NC running back got tackled and then a guy who had already given himself up on the play landed on the runner. I didn't have a problem with that guy, it was the guy who put a shoulder down and hit the runner again after that when he had already been down for quite some time and the play had been blown dead. If they call that 15 yarder, it's a chip shot field goal to tie the game.

 

You're right that there should probably be a run off or a 15 yarder in most cases where a team is deliberately trying to stop the clock to get the field goal unit on the field. In this case, I can't feel sorry for Tennessee. And they clearly gave it away in overtime, so props to NC.