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I wish people would stop mentioning Jaramillo like he is the secret ingredient for certain players and that he should in any way influence the Cubs' offseason acquisitions.

 

He's not going to take Mike Fontenot and turn him into Chase Utley or anything, but I think he will help with the hitter's consistency, quickly finding flaws in their swings and adjusting it before it turns into a prolonged slump. Will be interesting to see what he can do with Soriano and Fukudome, 2 hitters that have been known to fall badly away from their swing mechanics from time to time.

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I wish people would stop mentioning Jaramillo like he is the secret ingredient for certain players and that he should in any way influence the Cubs' offseason acquisitions.

 

He's not going to take Mike Fontenot and turn him into Chase Utley or anything, but I think he will help with the hitter's consistency, quickly finding flaws in their swings and adjusting it before it turns into a prolonged slump. Will be interesting to see what he can do with Soriano and Fukudome, 2 hitters that have been known to fall badly away from their swing mechanics from time to time.

 

I think Jaramillo would be a bigger deal if we hadn't had a decent hitting coach for awhile, anyway. And I think the general consensus was that Gerald Perry was, in fact, quite a good hitting coach, fired as a scapegoat for an underperforming offense. For that reason, it will be easy to expect too much of an improvement with this move.

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I wish people would stop mentioning Jaramillo like he is the secret ingredient for certain players and that he should in any way influence the Cubs' offseason acquisitions.

 

He's not going to take Mike Fontenot and turn him into Chase Utley or anything, but I think he will help with the hitter's consistency, quickly finding flaws in their swings and adjusting it before it turns into a prolonged slump. Will be interesting to see what he can do with Soriano and Fukudome, 2 hitters that have been known to fall badly away from their swing mechanics from time to time.

 

I think Jaramillo would be a bigger deal if we hadn't had a decent hitting coach for awhile, anyway. And I think the general consensus was that Gerald Perry was, in fact, quite a good hitting coach, fired as a scapegoat for an underperforming offense. For that reason, it will be easy to expect too much of an improvement with this move.

 

Agreed. The improvement will be minimal at best. If he really was as special as he's currently being made out to be, maybe he's the one who should be getting offered 5/80m contracts.

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I wish people would stop mentioning Jaramillo like he is the secret ingredient for certain players and that he should in any way influence the Cubs' offseason acquisitions.

 

He's not going to take Mike Fontenot and turn him into Chase Utley or anything, but I think he will help with the hitter's consistency, quickly finding flaws in their swings and adjusting it before it turns into a prolonged slump. Will be interesting to see what he can do with Soriano and Fukudome, 2 hitters that have been known to fall badly away from their swing mechanics from time to time.

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gerald perry and von joshua were already considered among the best hitting coaches. rudy's contribution will be negligible.

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I wish people would stop mentioning Jaramillo like he is the secret ingredient for certain players and that he should in any way influence the Cubs' offseason acquisitions.

 

He's not going to take Mike Fontenot and turn him into Chase Utley or anything, but I think he will help with the hitter's consistency, quickly finding flaws in their swings and adjusting it before it turns into a prolonged slump. Will be interesting to see what he can do with Soriano and Fukudome, 2 hitters that have been known to fall badly away from their swing mechanics from time to time.

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gerald perry and von joshua were already considered among the best hitting coaches. rudy's contribution will be negligible.

 

Considered to be the best hitting coaches by whom? This has been said so frequently on this board that I think people are taking it as the gospel.

 

I find it hard to believe that if they were in fact considered two of the best hitting coaches that they haven't found employment yet. In Von Joshua's case, he ended up going back to the minor league system. I'm sure its possible that Von Joshua loved Des Moines so much that he would rather be there than with a big league club, but it is unlikely.

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I wish people would stop mentioning Jaramillo like he is the secret ingredient for certain players and that he should in any way influence the Cubs' offseason acquisitions.

 

He's not going to take Mike Fontenot and turn him into Chase Utley or anything, but I think he will help with the hitter's consistency, quickly finding flaws in their swings and adjusting it before it turns into a prolonged slump. Will be interesting to see what he can do with Soriano and Fukudome, 2 hitters that have been known to fall badly away from their swing mechanics from time to time.

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gerald perry and von joshua were already considered among the best hitting coaches. rudy's contribution will be negligible.

 

The biggest thing I think Jaramillo can provide is work on technique. Both Perry and Joshua, from my understanding, focused significantly on a hitter's approach. Jaramillo, however, is more of a mechanics guy.

 

As someone said earlier, having Jaramillo to try to keep guys like Kosuke and Soriano – who often struggle keeping their mechanics in line – using their best mechanics could be a bonus we didn't have previously. We certainly didn't lose anything, as we still have Lou teaching the OBP/patience approach.

 

How much will improvement will that provide? I don't know, but it has the potential to be more than negligible.

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I wish people would stop mentioning Jaramillo like he is the secret ingredient for certain players and that he should in any way influence the Cubs' offseason acquisitions.

 

He's not going to take Mike Fontenot and turn him into Chase Utley or anything, but I think he will help with the hitter's consistency, quickly finding flaws in their swings and adjusting it before it turns into a prolonged slump. Will be interesting to see what he can do with Soriano and Fukudome, 2 hitters that have been known to fall badly away from their swing mechanics from time to time.

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gerald perry and von joshua were already considered among the best hitting coaches. rudy's contribution will be negligible.

 

Considered to be the best hitting coaches by whom? This has been said so frequently on this board that I think people are taking it as the gospel.

 

I find it hard to believe that if they were in fact considered two of the best hitting coaches that they haven't found employment yet. In Von Joshua's case, he ended up going back to the minor league system. I'm sure its possible that Von Joshua loved Des Moines so much that he would rather be there than with a big league club, but it is unlikely.

 

At his age and with his emphasis on teaching hitting approach, Joshua may prefer working in AAA where there's less stress and focus.

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At his age and with his emphasis on teaching hitting approach, Joshua may prefer working in AAA where there's less stress and focus.

 

There's probably a lot better job security as a minor league hitting instructor since they don't get fired as a scapegoat when minor league teams aren't winning. Gerald Perry was the best hitting coach the Cubs have had in many years but they had to blame somebody for the poor offense last year.

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At his age and with his emphasis on teaching hitting approach, Joshua may prefer working in AAA where there's less stress and focus.

 

There's probably a lot better job security as a minor league hitting instructor since they don't get fired as a scapegoat when minor league teams aren't winning. Gerald Perry was the best hitting coach the Cubs have had in many years but they had to blame somebody for the poor offense last year.

 

It'll be interesting to see first-hand how good Jaramillo is.

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I wish people would stop mentioning Jaramillo like he is the secret ingredient for certain players and that he should in any way influence the Cubs' offseason acquisitions.

 

He's not going to take Mike Fontenot and turn him into Chase Utley or anything, but I think he will help with the hitter's consistency, quickly finding flaws in their swings and adjusting it before it turns into a prolonged slump. Will be interesting to see what he can do with Soriano and Fukudome, 2 hitters that have been known to fall badly away from their swing mechanics from time to time.

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gerald perry and von joshua were already considered among the best hitting coaches. rudy's contribution will be negligible.

 

Different strategies. You can have the 3 best hitting coaches in baseball, and only one can be a fit for certain players.

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Ok, honestly, I've come around on Byrd a little. He'll provide above average offense and defense in center field. I don't have a huge problem with him, I just would've preferred Cameron.
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Ok, honestly, I've come around on Byrd a little. He'll provide above average offense and defense in center field. I don't have a huge problem with him, I just would've preferred Cameron.

 

I remain non-plussed. He might be okay, but he might be horrible. Either way, it's an incredibly long distance from the ideal.

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It all depends on the length and amount of the deal. Fortunately if they're as cash-strapped as most suggest, Hendry shouldn't be able to offer a deal that's way out of line.

 

He's probably the best option we have at this point.

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Byrd would just be "Right Fielder not named Sosa #17".

 

RF has become the revolving door that 3B used to be

 

Byrd would play CF.

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Byrd would just be "Right Fielder not named Sosa #17".

 

RF has become the revolving door that 3B used to be

 

Byrd would play CF.

 

another position of great stability

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Guesses on how much this Byrd in the hand will be worth? I'm setting the over/under at $7 mil per year and taking the over.

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