Notre Dame Fires Weis, Hires Brian Kelly

[SouthSideRyan]

Yeah, I guess I didn't consider the other jobs opening up option. It doesn't look like there's anything out there right now that would be worth leaving Cincinnati though. (Assuming Cincy pays him accordingly.

 

I don't know what's open, but it would seem to me that most big college options would be better. Cincy's had a nice couple years, but their program is fairly pathetic longterm. It really shouldn't be hard for any legit program to pull him away from there.

 

Top of my head, the biggest name jobs are Kansas and Virginia, which I have a hard time(other than possibly money) putting ahead of the Cincy job.

[CubInOK]

Stoops said he's staying at OU.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4701121

Stoops said he "intends" to stay at OU. Reading the transcript of that interview, he certainly does not come off authoritative, and he's given the opportunity by a reporter to directly say he's not going anywhere and instead kind of dances around the question. If he wanted to shut people up (including ND), here's the statement he could make:

 

I am not interested in being the coach at Notre Dame next season or in the foreseeable future. I will not be engaging in any contact this off-season, direct or indirect, with the school regarding their coaching position. I will be the head coach at Oklahoma next season and hopefully far beyond that. Any reports, past, present or future, about my alleged interest in the coaching job at Notre Dame are erroneous, because I am here and will continue to be here and will not jeopardize that possibility in any way.

 

That paragraph would get people off his back, and that paragraph is what he's not saying.

 

This isn't to call him a liar or say I believe he's on the edge of coming to ND or anything (I certainly believe he hasn't had any direct contact with anyone at ND right now), I just am skeptical that this is over.

 

Also to note: The Tulsa World reported early this morning that OU would be releasing a statement later 'this morning' to further debunk the latest rumors. It's 3 pm in Oklahoma and nothing new's come out yet.

Seen this yet?

People I listened to you yesterday about Bob Stoops were wrong. He is not leaving Oklahoma. I'll go back to sticking with NFL now.

 

[Andy]

Stoops said he's staying at OU.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4701121

Stoops said he "intends" to stay at OU. Reading the transcript of that interview, he certainly does not come off authoritative, and he's given the opportunity by a reporter to directly say he's not going anywhere and instead kind of dances around the question. If he wanted to shut people up (including ND), here's the statement he could make:

 

I am not interested in being the coach at Notre Dame next season or in the foreseeable future. I will not be engaging in any contact this off-season, direct or indirect, with the school regarding their coaching position. I will be the head coach at Oklahoma next season and hopefully far beyond that. Any reports, past, present or future, about my alleged interest in the coaching job at Notre Dame are erroneous, because I am here and will continue to be here and will not jeopardize that possibility in any way.

 

That paragraph would get people off his back, and that paragraph is what he's not saying.

 

This isn't to call him a liar or say I believe he's on the edge of coming to ND or anything (I certainly believe he hasn't had any direct contact with anyone at ND right now), I just am skeptical that this is over.

 

Also to note: The Tulsa World reported early this morning that OU would be releasing a statement later 'this morning' to further debunk the latest rumors. It's 3 pm in Oklahoma and nothing new's come out yet.

Seen this yet?

People I listened to you yesterday about Bob Stoops were wrong. He is not leaving Oklahoma. I'll go back to sticking with NFL now.

 

Schefter was wrong on his original report, so I should believe he's right now? He also said that Gary Patterson would be in the mix for the ND job about a half-hour before Patterson signed an extension with TCU.

[Tyrant]

Maybe Notre Dame can hire Bobby Bowden.

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i have already reached the point of not caring who coaches notre dame next year.

[SouthSideRyan]

i have already reached the point of not caring who coaches notre dame next year.

 

I heard it's gonna be JoePa

[TruffleShuffle]

i have already reached the point of not caring who coaches notre dame next year.

 

I heard it's gonna be JoePa

 

http://www.sportspickle.com/article:436/joe-paterno-dies

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there's nothing in that espn report that hasn't been reported and interpreted differently by different groups. Stoops hasn't rejected ND's advances directly.

 

And come on CubinNY, it's like each post is more ridiculous than the last. You're pulling things out of thing air to support your conclusion.

[CDBears1259]

You guys are worse the Auburn fans.

 

I know half you talking heads are messing with me, but for those who are serious I promise you Alabama will be his last major college job of his career. And there is 0% chance that Saban takes a job in the north again. He's found a fanbase that has match his intensity. Not to mention Terry and Kristin both absolutely loves Tuscaloosa (tho I do believe when Saban retires, he will retire to Louisana) so while the messing is purely comical and these kind of "fake rumors" will happen every (at the wishful thinking of SEC rivals) year I am fully confident Saban will be a Bama for the duration of his career. So either learn to tolerate Bama, or ignore us, either way Bama isn't going away anytime soon.

 

\:D/ :D :mrgreen:

I know I'm a little late in responding to this, but this post is comedic gold. I'm not trying to mess with you and don't think NS is in the picture for another job this year or even the next couple of years, but you're living in LaLa Land if you believe this and that he won't bolt at some point. First, he's a high priced call girl masquerading as a football coach (albeit a very good one). If a historically strong football school comes calling (especially one w/ deep pockets), he'll go. Bank on it. Particularly if the timing is right and it's a program he can raise up from the ashes. Secondly, you don't think LSU's fan base is rabid and intense? He could have run for Governor if he wanted to and probably would have won or at least made a good showing. These coonasses had the guy on a pedestal. That didn't stop him from bolting to the NFL. Although, I do understand that the situation was a bit different in that he had an itch he needed to scratch. Thirdly, don't believe that BS about Terry loving Tuscaloosa. She said the same thing about Baton Rouge and it didn't keep them from moving. Again slightly different situation, but $$$ talks. It's not wishful thinking, the guy will go at some point. It's a proven pattern of behavior.

[RedFlash]

First, he's a high priced call girl masquerading as a football coach (albeit a very good one). If a historically strong football school comes calling (especially one w/ deep pockets), he'll go. [/quote}

 

How many teams fit your descripbtions of "historically strong football school, with deep pockets? About what ten, maybe twelve? Let's see, excluding Bama who fits this desription to a tee, you have Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Nebraska, USC, Texas, Miami, Tennessee (to a certain degree), Ohio State, Michigan, Pittsburgh, Harvard, Yale, there might be a couple of more included, but most of these are based off how man National Titles the school has. And how many of these teams would Saban go to? You can cross off the Ivy League schools. Oklahoma, USC, Texas, OSU, Pittsburgh have the immediate to long term coaches in place.. Tennessee, Miami, Nebraska, and Michigan are currently in the first or second yr with Miami in the third year with Shannon and with progression this yr, he won't be going anywhere, and there is no chance of Nick going back to the Miami area. So after you shifted through the list you have Notre Dame left from the discription list you provided that have the history, and the money and add in the fact that Nick is pushing 60 years old, I don't see him taking a step back to go to Notre Dame, not with Bama so close to the national championship game. Besides leaving Bama for another historical school with strong finances would at best be a lateral move, and for coaches you either stay at your current job, or move up. And the only place you can move up from Alabama or the like is the NFL. So, again I don't see Nick going anywhere. One final thought, CNS has already said he has no plans to coach as long as JoePa and Bowden which leads me to believe that Alabama and his current contract will be his last as a coach. (Side note: I don't include LSU or Florida, because despite the recent winning, overall in college football hierarchy---historically----are still both still behind the likes of Bama.)

 

 

Bank on it. Particularly if the timing is right and it's a program he can raise up from the ashes. Secondly, you don't think LSU's fan base is rabid and intense? He could have run for Governor if he wanted to and probably would have won or at least made a good showing. These coonasses had the guy on a pedestal. That didn't stop him from bolting to the NFL. Although, I do understand that the situation was a bit different in that he had an itch he needed to scratch. Third, don't believe that BS about Terry loving Tuscaloosa. She said the same thing about Baton Rouge and it didn't keep them from moving. Again slightly different situation, but $$$ talks. It's not wishful thinking, the guy will go at some point. It's a proven pattern of behavior.

 

And yet I am still not afraid of losing Nick Saban. LSU fanbase is rabid and all, but for nearly thirty years they were pretty much doormats of the SEC until Nick Saban got there, excluding a few good seasons. SO again very few fanbases can match Bama fans intensity about college football. Terry Saban still does loves Louisana and they still have friends in the state, which is why I expect the family to return to Louisana for retirement. Otherwise there really isn't too many better jobs in America then the Bama job. That's not delusion that is fact. You can believe all you want about CNS will leave at the first opportunity, but you would be believing something that is a lie. And if Saban does decide to leave we have his protege already on the staff in Kirby Smart, so again I am not afraid of losing Saban for some reason. But again there is less then 10% chance of Saban leaving Bama at this stage of his coaching career. That's like saying Pete Carroll is deciding to leave USC to coach at Northwest Central State. If people don't think Pete Carroll will leave USC, and he has been to as many places in his career as Nick and only at USC has he been able to stay longer then five years, then why do people think Saban is automatically guarantee to leave? But hey he gets the benefit of the doubt, but Saban doesn't. That's okay

[dew1679666265]

Otherwise there really isn't too many better jobs in America then the Bama job.

 

I'd say right now USC, Florida, Ohio State and maybe Texas and Oklahoma are better jobs. That's probably it.

 

If one of those schools call and back up the trucks, I could see Saban leaving. Otherwise, I figure he's probably there for pretty close to the duration – unless he decides he wants another crack at the NFL.

[biittner77]

It's unrealistic to expect any college football coach to be there indefinitely. The days of coaches staying with one program for 20 years are gone. The big programs have very short memories and high expectations. This is the age where Jim Tressel comes under scrutiny for only winning 1 NC.

[jersey cubs fan]

It's unrealistic to expect any college football coach to be there indefinitely. The days of coaches staying with one program for 20 years are gone. The big programs have very short memories and high expectations. This is the age where Jim Tressel comes under scrutiny for only winning 1 NC.

 

Not forever, no, but some coaches are still staying a long time. Ferentz has been at Iowa for 11 years and counting. Greg Schiano has been at Rutgers forever. How long has Mack Brown been at Texas? Pete Carroll has been there for a decade. Bowden just retired, Paterno is still at PSU.

 

College football head coach is a fantastic longterm gig. There are only a handful of places were a lack of NC will actually doom you to being fired, and there are countless places where sustained success is good enough to keep you raking in the dough.

[dew1679666265]

It's unrealistic to expect any college football coach to be there indefinitely. The days of coaches staying with one program for 20 years are gone. The big programs have very short memories and high expectations. This is the age where Jim Tressel comes under scrutiny for only winning 1 NC.

 

Not forever, no, but some coaches are still staying a long time. Ferentz has been at Iowa for 11 years and counting. Greg Schiano has been at Rutgers forever. How long has Mack Brown been at Texas? Pete Carroll has been there for a decade. Bowden just retired, Paterno is still at PSU.

 

College football head coach is a fantastic longterm gig. There are only a handful of places were a lack of NC will actually doom you to being fired, and there are countless places where sustained success is good enough to keep you raking in the dough.

 

Chris Ault has been at Nevada for 25 years now.

[E.J.]

Report: ND Focusing on Skip Holtz, Randy Edsall, and Jim Harbaugh in Coaching Search

FootballCoachScoop.com cites sources close to the situation as indicating that Fighting Irish Athletic Director Jack Swarbrick is focusing on three current head coaches in his search: Skip Holtz (East Carolina), Randy Edsall (Connecticut) and Jim Harbaugh (Stanford ).

 

Pirate head coach Skip Holtz is the son of former head coach Lou Holtz. Skip is a Notre Dame alum and former walk-on wide receiver for the Irish. He brought ECU to prominance in Conference USA over the past five years after working as an assistant coach for ND.

Randy Edsall, the head coach for the UConn Huskies, is credited as being a "program builder." His current school started out as a Division I-AA football school, but has since been turned into a consistent contender in the Big East. This year's team was expected to challenge for a title in the Big East, but faltered after a popular defensive star was murdered earlier this season.

 

Jim Harbaugh has been rumored to be a replacement for Charlie Weis even before Weis was fired. The current head coach of Stanford, Harbaugh has Midwestern roots after playing quarterback at both Michigan and for the Chicago Bears and Indianapolis Colts in the NFL. He also comes from a strong coaching pedigree; his father, Jack, was a longtime coach at Western Kentucky and his brother, John, is head coach of the Baltimore Ravens. He was successful as head coach of FCS school San Diego. He took over one of the worst programs in the country at Stanford, but led the Cardinal to an 8-4 record this season. Harbaugh has twice upset Southern California, one of Notre Dame's biggest rivals, and would probably like to stick it to Michigan, his alma mater, as well.

 

Probably complete crap, but what the hell.

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keep in mind that footballcoachscoop is maybe the most ironic name in sports websites.

[Andy]

Yeah, I've read at least one other report that ND hasn't contacted Edsall, and there's no way in hell they're looking at Skip Holtz. These 'sources' are probably random people that came up with 3 names that ND could plausibly look at.

[Butterscup1679666578]

you guys should bring back lou holtz

[E.J.]

you guys should bring back lou holtz

 

The dude doesn't drink water. Ever. He's Jesus.

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keep in mind that footballcoachscoop is maybe the most ironic name in sports websites.

 

Exhibit A

 

http://bluegraysky.blogspot.com/2009_12_01_archive.html#7014119063071457519

[ISUCubsFan]

keep in mind that footballcoachscoop is maybe the most ironic name in sports websites.

 

Exhibit A

 

http://bluegraysky.blogspot.com/2009_12_01_archive.html#7014119063071457519

Hahaha, that's awesome. The best part is ESPN and NBC running a story about it 24 hours after the e-mail was sent. Also, nice move by Bielema no commenting on it. Must be going for a raise.

[Soul]

keep in mind that footballcoachscoop is maybe the most ironic name in sports websites.

 

Exhibit A

 

http://bluegraysky.blogspot.com/2009_12_01_archive.html#7014119063071457519

Hahaha, that's awesome. The best part is ESPN and NBC running a story about it 24 hours after the e-mail was sent. Also, nice move by Bielema no commenting on it. Must be going for a raise.

 

LOL, must be entertaining to get tracked down in Hawaii *after* reports are published. "Hey -- can you verify the legitimacy of these articles that have already been published based on nothing?"

[Andy]

Took him long enough, but Stoops issues a strong, real denial of interest in the ND job.

 

"For the third, and hopefully final time, let me again state that I will continue to be the coach at Oklahoma," Stoops said in a release sent by Oklahoma and reported in the Tulsa World. "I appreciate the history and tradition of Notre Dame. I also appreciate the history and tradition of Oklahoma, and I have been part of building that tradition here.

 

"I work for a wonderful president (David Boren) and athletic director (Joe Castiglione), who have created an incredible work environment at OU. There haven't been any plans for a meeting or negotiations with Notre Dame and there will not be. Any reporting to that fact is completely erroneous. I will not be the next coach at Notre Dame."

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He just rejected it today.

[Andy]

Brian Kelly won all his nail-biters. That's really the only major difference between Brian Kelly 2009 and Charlie Weis 2009.