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does everyone have their spreadsheets updated as to whose recruits were whose so we know who to blame/give credit in the next few years?

No worries, Weis is white and arrogant so no one will run around trying to credit him for the next coach's success (if he has any).

 

Stoops just said he'll be at Oklahoma next year, so that might be scuttled.

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does everyone have their spreadsheets updated as to whose recruits were whose so we know who to blame/give credit in the next few years?

No worries, Weis is white and arrogant so no one will run around trying to credit him for the next coach's success (if he has any).

 

Stoops just said he'll be at Oklahoma next year, so that might be scuttled.

 

espn.com mentioned Butch Davis.

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does everyone have their spreadsheets updated as to whose recruits were whose so we know who to blame/give credit in the next few years?

No worries, Weis is white and arrogant so no one will run around trying to credit him for the next coach's success (if he has any).

 

Stoops just said he'll be at Oklahoma next year, so that might be scuttled.

 

espn.com mentioned Butch Davis.

No way.

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does everyone have their spreadsheets updated as to whose recruits were whose so we know who to blame/give credit in the next few years?

No worries, Weis is white and arrogant so no one will run around trying to credit him for the next coach's success (if he has any).

 

Stoops just said he'll be at Oklahoma next year, so that might be scuttled.

 

espn.com mentioned Butch Davis.

No way.

 

He wouldn't even consider the Tennessee job last year. Notre Dame is obviously more prestigious than UT, but I think Davis is pretty settled in at UNC.

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does everyone have their spreadsheets updated as to whose recruits were whose so we know who to blame/give credit in the next few years?

No worries, Weis is white and arrogant so no one will run around trying to credit him for the next coach's success (if he has any).

 

Stoops just said he'll be at Oklahoma next year, so that might be scuttled.

 

espn.com mentioned Butch Davis.

No way.

 

He wouldn't even consider the Tennessee job last year. Notre Dame is obviously more prestigious than UT, but I think Davis is pretty settled in at UNC.

Yeah, I don't think Davis has any big incentives to go to ND. It's not like he hasn't already proven he can do it on the big stage (at Miami).

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notre dame will probably set their sights on bob stoops, urban meyer and the ghost of knute rockne, and end up with someone like brian kelly.

 

Which really isn't all that bad of a fallback option.

Meh. Cincy has no running game and no defense. Kelly openly admitted he entered the Illinois game trying to outscore them. Seems like if we wanted someone that fit those criteria that we already had him.

 

Granted, Kelly has succeeded greatly at Cincy, but so did Rodriguez at WVU (also in the Big East). I'd be hopeful for Kelly but not overly confident if he was the guy.

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notre dame will probably set their sights on bob stoops, urban meyer and the ghost of knute rockne, and end up with someone like brian kelly.

 

Which really isn't all that bad of a fallback option.

Meh. Cincy has no running game and no defense. Kelly openly admitted he entered the Illinois game trying to outscore them. Seems like if we wanted someone that fit those criteria that we already had him.

 

Well he's the best option out of the realistic coaches out there IMO.

 

Keep in mind that Cincy has 10 new starters on defense from a year ago as well.

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notre dame will probably set their sights on bob stoops, urban meyer and the ghost of knute rockne, and end up with someone like brian kelly.

 

Which really isn't all that bad of a fallback option.

Meh. Cincy has no running game and no defense. Kelly openly admitted he entered the Illinois game trying to outscore them. Seems like if we wanted someone that fit those criteria that we already had him.

 

Granted, Kelly has succeeded greatly at Cincy, but so did Rodriguez at WVU (also in the Big East). I'd be hopeful for Kelly but not overly confident if he was the guy.

 

The Rodriguez verdict at Michigan isn't nearly final.

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notre dame will probably set their sights on bob stoops, urban meyer and the ghost of knute rockne, and end up with someone like brian kelly.

 

Which really isn't all that bad of a fallback option.

 

oh i don't think it is either, but kelly certainly isn't a sure thing like bob stoops or urban meyer. he's kind of in the same place that people like meyer, dan hawkins, paul johnson and john l. smith were when they were at a middle-of-the-road program that they turned into something really good, and you didn't really know if they were going to be a boom or a bust when stepping up to a big-time program. some turn out really good (meyer, johnsonn) and some are bad (hawkins, smith).

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notre dame will probably set their sights on bob stoops, urban meyer and the ghost of knute rockne, and end up with someone like brian kelly.

 

Which really isn't all that bad of a fallback option.

Meh. Cincy has no running game and no defense. Kelly openly admitted he entered the Illinois game trying to outscore them. Seems like if we wanted someone that fit those criteria that we already had him.

 

Granted, Kelly has succeeded greatly at Cincy, but so did Rodriguez at WVU (also in the Big East). I'd be hopeful for Kelly but not overly confident if he was the guy.

 

The Rodriguez verdict at Michigan isn't nearly final.

 

Yeah, he's overhauling a traditional, power-I team to a spread option team. Two years isn't long enough to evaluate him.

 

I think Kelly would be a very good hire for ND.

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notre dame will probably set their sights on bob stoops, urban meyer and the ghost of knute rockne, and end up with someone like brian kelly.

 

Which really isn't all that bad of a fallback option.

 

oh i don't think it is either, but kelly certainly isn't a sure thing like bob stoops or urban meyer. he's kind of in the same place that people like meyer, dan hawkins, paul johnson and john l. smith were when they were at a middle-of-the-road program that they turned into something really good, and you didn't really know if they were going to be a boom or a bust when stepping up to a big-time program. some turn out really good (meyer, johnsonn) and some are bad (hawkins, smith).

 

Hawkins was good once? LOL.

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notre dame will probably set their sights on bob stoops, urban meyer and the ghost of knute rockne, and end up with someone like brian kelly.

 

Which really isn't all that bad of a fallback option.

 

oh i don't think it is either, but kelly certainly isn't a sure thing like bob stoops or urban meyer. he's kind of in the same place that people like meyer, dan hawkins, paul johnson and john l. smith were when they were at a middle-of-the-road program that they turned into something really good, and you didn't really know if they were going to be a boom or a bust when stepping up to a big-time program. some turn out really good (meyer, johnsonn) and some are bad (hawkins, smith).

 

Hawkins was good once? LOL.

 

compare hawkins at boise st to meyer at utah. hawkins turned a bad NAIA into a really good team and then turned a mediocre boise st program into a team that dominated the WAC and won over 80% of their games. meyer took a mediocre bowling green program and made them good and then turned a good utah program into a great team, but in both places he had the help of a really good qb. i know in hindsight it seems silly to compare urban meyer to dan hawkins, since one has been awful and the other has won 2 championships, but really, what difference was there in their resumes before stepping up to coach in bcs conferences?

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notre dame will probably set their sights on bob stoops, urban meyer and the ghost of knute rockne, and end up with someone like brian kelly.

 

Which really isn't all that bad of a fallback option.

 

oh i don't think it is either, but kelly certainly isn't a sure thing like bob stoops or urban meyer. he's kind of in the same place that people like meyer, dan hawkins, paul johnson and john l. smith were when they were at a middle-of-the-road program that they turned into something really good, and you didn't really know if they were going to be a boom or a bust when stepping up to a big-time program. some turn out really good (meyer, johnsonn) and some are bad (hawkins, smith).

 

Hawkins was good once? LOL.

 

What the hell?

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It'll be Stoops or Kelly. I'm really hopeful for Stoops, but Kelly seems, at worst, a lateral move. If Kelly can hire a decent staff and works hard at recruiting, he should be able to be successful. He appears to be a better fundamentals coach, which Weis couldn't seem to do. Would be nice to have a guy that's proven it at a bigger level.

 

Stoops may reject the offer, but he hasn't yet.

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Has Nick Saban commented on the opening yet?

 

He's been with Alabama for a while now and has to be getting an itch to go to a new situation.

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