Ramirez Injury Thread

[Soonernation]

Ir Aram is out until August, there is no realistic way this team, as it is right now, will even be in contention for the division when he comes back without some sort of trade for a LEGIT 3rd baseman with a bat

[Soul]

Ir Aram is out until August, there is no realistic way this team, as it is right now, will even be in contention for the division when he comes back without some sort of trade for a LEGIT 3rd baseman with a bat

 

I don't see a big trade happening. The Cubs have been reluctant to take on new payroll with ownership still in flux. We have little in the minors to offer, and trading one of the few pieces we do have seems shortsighted.

 

It's time for some of the players we already have to simply start playing better.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Ir Aram is out until August, there is no realistic way this team, as it is right now, will even be in contention for the division when he comes back without some sort of trade for a LEGIT 3rd baseman with a bat

 

I don't see a big trade happening. The Cubs have been reluctant to take on new payroll with ownership still in flux. We have little in the minors to offer, and trading one of the few pieces we do have seems shortsighted.

 

It's time for some of the players we already have to simply start playing better.

 

Jeff Stevens, Kevin Hart, Greg Reinhard, and even Aaron Heilman could be quite usefull to teams looking for bullpen help. Jake Fox should entice many AL teams. We also have several AA and below prospects that a lot of teams would be interested in.

[manbearcub]

Ir Aram is out until August, there is no realistic way this team, as it is right now, will even be in contention for the division when he comes back without some sort of trade for a LEGIT 3rd baseman with a bat

 

I don't see a big trade happening. The Cubs have been reluctant to take on new payroll with ownership still in flux. We have little in the minors to offer, and trading one of the few pieces we do have seems shortsighted.

 

It's time for some of the players we already have to simply start playing better.

 

Jeff Stevens, Kevin Hart, Greg Reinhard, and even Aaron Heilman could be quite usefull to teams looking for bullpen help. Jake Fox should entice many AL teams. We also have several AA and below prospects that a lot of teams would be interested in.

teams looking for AAA bullpen help?

[dew1679666265]

Jeff Stevens, Kevin Hart, Greg Reinhard, and even Aaron Heilman could be quite usefull to teams looking for bullpen help. Jake Fox should entice many AL teams. We also have several AA and below prospects that a lot of teams would be interested in.

 

Stevens and Reinhard are complete question marks. Any contending team is going to demand much more of a certainty if they want bullpen help. Non-contenders are not going to give up a valuable piece if Stevens or Reinhard are the centerpiece - unless we just overwhelm them with quantity.

 

Heilman will not interest non-contenders, I wouldn't think, given that he's 30 and only signed to a one-year deal. He may interest some contenders, but I question whether they'd be willing to give up a bat much, if any, better than what we already have for him.

 

Jake Fox, I think, will entice some AL teams, but a 27-year-old AAA DH who probably has the upside of Russell Branyan isn't going to bring much on his own.

 

I think we could acquire someone like Branyan for a package something like Fox/Wells/lower level prospect, maybe, but again the Ms think they're in contention right now so he's likely not available. The Os likely wouldn't have interest in any of those guys (save for, perhaps, Fox) because they've got quite a few bad arms - they just need legit MLers.

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Ir Aram is out until August, there is no realistic way this team, as it is right now, will even be in contention for the division when he comes back without some sort of trade for a LEGIT 3rd baseman with a bat

 

I don't see a big trade happening. The Cubs have been reluctant to take on new payroll with ownership still in flux. We have little in the minors to offer, and trading one of the few pieces we do have seems shortsighted.

 

It's time for some of the players we already have to simply start playing better.

 

Jeff Stevens, Kevin Hart, Greg Reinhard, and even Aaron Heilman could be quite usefull to teams looking for bullpen help. Jake Fox should entice many AL teams. We also have several AA and below prospects that a lot of teams would be interested in.

 

if we had pieces that could help a bullpen, don't you think we'd be using them for our own bullpen?

[CubColtPacer]

Not exactly a guy who would know a real exact timetable, but from the last line of the Bruce Miles blog from earlier today,

 

Lou figured the first week of July for the return of third baseman Aramis Ramirez.

 

We haven't had a lot of information on the injury time, so that's at least some encouragement, even though I expect that will be pushed back 2-3 weeks.

[imb]

Ir Aram is out until August, there is no realistic way this team, as it is right now, will even be in contention for the division when he comes back without some sort of trade for a LEGIT 3rd baseman with a bat

 

I don't see a big trade happening. The Cubs have been reluctant to take on new payroll with ownership still in flux. We have little in the minors to offer, and trading one of the few pieces we do have seems shortsighted.

 

It's time for some of the players we already have to simply start playing better.

 

Jeff Stevens, Kevin Hart, Greg Reinhard, and even Aaron Heilman could be quite usefull to teams looking for bullpen help. Jake Fox should entice many AL teams. We also have several AA and below prospects that a lot of teams would be interested in.

 

if we had pieces that could help a bullpen, don't you think we'd be using them for our own bullpen?

 

Hahaha, that's awesome. Let's trade some relievers for relief help. WAIT A MINUTE

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

From Bruce Miles

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=298593&src=152

 

Third baseman Aramis Ramirez, who may be out for at least another month with a dislocated left shoulder, reportedly will begin "baseball activities" this weekend in Cincinnati. Ramirez hurt himself diving for a groundball in Milwaukee on May 8.

[Gingerballs Lives]

From Bruce Miles

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=298593&src=152

 

Third baseman Aramis Ramirez, who may be out for at least another month with a dislocated left shoulder, reportedly will begin "baseball activities" this weekend in Cincinnati. Ramirez hurt himself diving for a groundball in Milwaukee on May 8.

[/quoote]

 

 

SOS to Aram.........

 

Come. Back. Soon.

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"may be out for at least another month" doesn't really make sense

[Little Slide Rooter]

"may be out for at least another month" doesn't really make sense

 

They say hes due back around the ASB, so that makes perfect sense.

[jersey cubs fan]

"may be out for at least another month" doesn't really make sense

 

What don't you get? It makes sense to me.

[CubColtPacer]

"may be out for at least another month" doesn't really make sense

 

What don't you get? It makes sense to me.

 

At least indicates that it is definite that he spends a month more on the disabled list and then a possibility for more. The may be indicates that it might not be so definite. They don't really belong together in the same sentence.

 

However, it really isn't a big deal. The meaning was still pretty clear from the sentence.

[jersey cubs fan]

"may be out for at least another month" doesn't really make sense

 

What don't you get? It makes sense to me.

 

At least indicates that it is definite that he spends a month more on the disabled list and then a possibility for more. The may be indicates that it might not be so definite. They don't really belong together in the same sentence.

 

However, it really isn't a big deal. The meaning was still pretty clear from the sentence.

 

It's an injury, and a month is a long time. There's no way of knowing. May be suggests that is the case, and at least suggests it could be longer.

 

Will be out for at least a month is inaccurate since it's possible it will be sooner.

May be out another month is inaccurate since it's possible it will be longer.

 

May be out at least another month makes perfect sense to anybody that isn't trying to make things more difficult than they need to be.

[Little Slide Rooter]

"may be out for at least another month" doesn't really make sense

 

What don't you get? It makes sense to me.

 

At least indicates that it is definite that he spends a month more on the disabled list and then a possibility for more. The may be indicates that it might not be so definite. They don't really belong together in the same sentence.

 

However, it really isn't a big deal. The meaning was still pretty clear from the sentence.

 

It's an injury, and a month is a long time. There's no way of knowing. May be suggests that is the case, and at least suggests it could be longer.

 

Will be out for at least a month is inaccurate since it's possible it will be sooner.

May be out another month is inaccurate since it's possible it will be longer.

 

May be out at least another month makes perfect sense to anybody that isn't trying to make things more difficult than they need to be.

 

The whole thing suggests that we may be in need of at least a stop gap replacement.

[David]

This is what you conclude from the most encouraging piece of news we've gotten since the injury?

 

I mean, granted, yes, we might need a stop gap, but this piece of information from Bruce wouldn't exactly be what motivated me to think so.

[David]

Anyway, if that month or so is accurate (and it does go along with Lou's "first week of July" thing), it would mean he's not that far off from a rehab assignment. Maybe 3 weeks? One week in the minors?

 

Unless the timetable means he's a month away from actually playing baseball and further away from actually returning to the team, but I think that's the less likely interpretation.

[jersey cubs fan]

Anyway, if that month or so is accurate (and it does go along with Lou's "first week of July" thing), it would mean he's not that far off from a rehab assignment. Maybe 3 weeks? One week in the minors?

 

Unless the timetable means he's a month away from actually playing baseball and further away from actually returning to the team, but I think that's the less likely interpretation.

 

If I had to guess, I'd say he's a month away from a rehab assignment. But, even if he does come back, the fact that he will likely need surgery after the season suggests to me that he's going to be well below 100% the rest of the way. I just don't see him having the same offensive impact when he returns.

[David]

Anyway, if that month or so is accurate (and it does go along with Lou's "first week of July" thing), it would mean he's not that far off from a rehab assignment. Maybe 3 weeks? One week in the minors?

 

Unless the timetable means he's a month away from actually playing baseball and further away from actually returning to the team, but I think that's the less likely interpretation.

 

If I had to guess, I'd say he's a month away from a rehab assignment. But, even if he does come back, the fact that he will likely need surgery after the season suggests to me that he's going to be well below 100% the rest of the way. I just don't see him having the same offensive impact when he returns.

 

I agree. I've been doubtful about whether or not he'd ever be the same from the start, but he'll probably (hopefully - otherwise we're screwed regardless) be a significant upgrade over Andres Blanco/Bobby Scales, and an upgrade in the field over Fontenot.

[Brian]

Sun Times twitter says Aramis is at the park tonight for baseball activity.

[jersey cubs fan]

Sun Times twitter says Aramis is at the park tonight for baseball activity.

 

I love the phrase "(name your sport) activity".

[BCVM22]

I love the phrase "(name your sport) activity".

 

I take it to mean that Ramirez is in the clubhouse doing a baseball word search. He's already found BASEBALL and GLOVE, but OUTFIELD is proving elusive. Were I there, my recommendation would be to look diagonal and backwards.

[JGalt73]

Per Will Carroll....

 

Aramis Ramirez is taking grounders, but sources tell me that the shoulder isn't yet stable enough for more intense activity.

[CyHawk_Cub]

I don't think even Rammy can sufficiently help this pathetic offensive team. Might as well go under the knife (if the prognosis is that would be "better" for him long term) & come back for 2010. I'm so sick of the impotence of this team right now