Adam Dunn to the Nationals per XM 175...

[Post Count Padder]

Good deal for the Nats. They have a massive logjam in the outfield though.

[cubsfan26]

As far as Dunn goes, good pickup by the Nats if they paid less than the 2/$16 that Burrell got.

 

Dunn is reportly getting 2y at 20m.

[CubinNY]

Pretty happy he will only be getting approx. 24 AB's @ Wrigley over the next 2 years.

Maybe more if JH comes to his senses and trades for him next year.

[pitchcs]

Pretty happy he will only be getting approx. 24 AB's @ Wrigley (vs. the Cubs) over the next 2 years.

Maybe more if JH comes to his senses and trades for him next year.

 

Fixed my statement

[cubswin2009]

Nice I thought he was headed to Houston :D

[Tyrant]

They have a massive logjam in the outfield though.

 

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u103/YailBloor/Logjammin.jpg

[sneakypower]

Dukes and Milledge plz

[RedFlash]

Dunn, Kearns, Pena

 

With the additions of Javier Valentin, and Corey Patterson, along with currnet National Dmitri Young, Jim Bowden is trasnforming the old Montreal Expos into the new Washington Reds.

 

Derwood you also forgot the likes of Corey Patterson, Joel Guzman and Josh Willingham are also in the OF mix

[erik316wttn]

Good thing he'll only kill us 6 games a year instead of 16.

[NewUserName]

I dont think Dunn adds to the logjam in the OF. How many of those guys mentioned are legitimate starting ofers on a contending team?

[wade]

I dont think Dunn adds to the logjam in the OF. How many of those guys mentioned are legitimate starting ofers on a contending team?

 

Yeah, but this is probably not a contending team.

[BigbadB]

but seriously, another deal with the Nats coming? How do they fit Dunn, Langerhans, Milledge, Kearns, Pena and Dukes into that OF?

 

Didn't they trade for Willingham, also?

[BigbadB]

Oh, and they offered Willie Harris some sort of contract, and he's an outfielder, too.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I wonder if the Nats could be convinced to trade Johnson for a small price? He would make a nice back-up 1b/ bat off the bench.

 

$5.5 million seems steep for a backup who can only really play 1B

 

 

What if traded Luis Vizcaino (3.5) + prospect for Johnson (5.5). After adding in the 500K buyout for Vizcaino, the Cubs would only be taking on 1.5 million for Johnson. That's a deal I'd do if you could get Bowden to bite on it.

 

Johnson would at least give us a decent bat on the bench, and allow Lou to comfortably give Lee an off day every now and then. Also, I think Johnson (while he's never played there) could be just as passable in LF/RF as Hoffpauir.

[StylesClash]

I wonder if the Nats could be convinced to trade Johnson for a small price? He would make a nice back-up 1b/ bat off the bench.

 

$5.5 million seems steep for a backup who can only really play 1B

 

 

What if traded Luis Vizcaino (3.5) + prospect for Johnson (5.5). After adding in the 500K buyout for Vizcaino, the Cubs would only be taking on 1.5 million for Johnson. That's a deal I'd do if you could get Bowden to bite on it.

 

Johnson would at least give us a decent bat on the bench, and allow Lou to comfortably give Lee an off day every now and then. Also, I think Johnson (while he's never played there) could be just as passable in LF/RF as Hoffpauir.

 

I'm sure a rebuilding team would love to have a 34 year old declining reliever making nearly four million. Jim Bowden isn't a bad enough GM to make that move. That's Dave Littlefield level of ineptitude.

 

Even though Adam Dunn is easily worth 20 million I don't understand why the Nationals signed him. They aren't contending with or without Dunn for atleast another few seasons. I'd invest that 20 million into the draft and international free agent market. Washington's farm system could really use the upgrade that strategy would provide.

[BigbadB]

I wonder if the Nats could be convinced to trade Johnson for a small price? He would make a nice back-up 1b/ bat off the bench.

 

$5.5 million seems steep for a backup who can only really play 1B

 

 

What if traded Luis Vizcaino (3.5) + prospect for Johnson (5.5). After adding in the 500K buyout for Vizcaino, the Cubs would only be taking on 1.5 million for Johnson. That's a deal I'd do if you could get Bowden to bite on it.

 

Johnson would at least give us a decent bat on the bench, and allow Lou to comfortably give Lee an off day every now and then. Also, I think Johnson (while he's never played there) could be just as passable in LF/RF as Hoffpauir.

 

I'm sure a rebuilding team would love to have a 34 year old declining reliever making nearly four million. Jim Bowden isn't a bad enough GM to make that move. That's Dave Littlefield level of ineptitude.

 

Even though Adam Dunn is easily worth 20 million I don't understand why the Nationals signed him. They aren't contending with or without Dunn for atleast another few seasons. I'd invest that 20 million into the draft and international free agent market. Washington's farm system could really use the upgrade that strategy would provide.

 

They would actually be freeing up money by trading Johnson for Vizcaino. Are they really rebuilding? It seems to me that if they could find some takers for their plethora of outfielders, they could have a halfway solid team full of veterans. Also, considering they were willing to give Teixiera a huge contract, they probably have the money to spend for O-Dog. Put him in the line up, and I think they have a very competitive team. Pretending that Adam Dunn would play 1b, they have:

 

OF- Kearns/Pena

OF- Milledge/Dukes

OF- Willingham

3b- Zimmerman

SS- Christian Guzman

2b- Orlando Hudson

1b- Adam Dunn

C- Jesus Flores

 

SP- Scott Olsen

SP- Daniel Cabrera

SP- John Lannan

SP- Collin Balester

SP- Bergmann, Hill, Detwieler, Shell

 

What they need at this point is pitching, and they still have plenty of outfield depth to trade.

[Derwood]

Dunn, Kearns, Pena

 

With the additions of Javier Valentin, and Corey Patterson, along with currnet National Dmitri Young, Jim Bowden is trasnforming the old Montreal Expos into the new Washington Reds.

 

Derwood you also forgot the likes of Corey Patterson, Joel Guzman and Josh Willingham are also in the OF mix

 

some of them are non-roster invitees at this point

[StylesClash]

I wonder if the Nats could be convinced to trade Johnson for a small price? He would make a nice back-up 1b/ bat off the bench.

 

$5.5 million seems steep for a backup who can only really play 1B

 

 

What if traded Luis Vizcaino (3.5) + prospect for Johnson (5.5). After adding in the 500K buyout for Vizcaino, the Cubs would only be taking on 1.5 million for Johnson. That's a deal I'd do if you could get Bowden to bite on it.

 

Johnson would at least give us a decent bat on the bench, and allow Lou to comfortably give Lee an off day every now and then. Also, I think Johnson (while he's never played there) could be just as passable in LF/RF as Hoffpauir.

 

I'm sure a rebuilding team would love to have a 34 year old declining reliever making nearly four million. Jim Bowden isn't a bad enough GM to make that move. That's Dave Littlefield level of ineptitude.

 

Even though Adam Dunn is easily worth 20 million I don't understand why the Nationals signed him. They aren't contending with or without Dunn for atleast another few seasons. I'd invest that 20 million into the draft and international free agent market. Washington's farm system could really use the upgrade that strategy would provide.

 

They would actually be freeing up money by trading Johnson for Vizcaino. Are they really rebuilding? It seems to me that if they could find some takers for their plethora of outfielders, they could have a halfway solid team full of veterans. Also, considering they were willing to give Teixiera a huge contract, they probably have the money to spend for O-Dog. Put him in the line up, and I think they have a very competitive team. Pretending that Adam Dunn would play 1b, they have:

 

OF- Kearns/Pena

OF- Milledge/Dukes

OF- Willingham

3b- Zimmerman

SS- Christian Guzman

2b- Orlando Hudson

1b- Adam Dunn

C- Jesus Flores

 

SP- Scott Olsen

SP- Daniel Cabrera

SP- John Lannan

SP- Collin Balester

SP- Bergmann, Hill, Detwieler, Shell

 

What they need at this point is pitching, and they still have plenty of outfield depth to trade.

 

Lets see here...quality young hitting and no pitching. Sounds like the Rangers during the Soriano days. Not exactly what a team should strive to be.

 

With my strategy the Nats don't spend 20 million for two years of a player that won't help them contend. Spending huge amounts on the international free agent market and draft would bring the National farm system tons of credibility, and in the long run allow Washington a much better chance to contend.

[RedFlash]

Dunn, Kearns, Pena

 

With the additions of Javier Valentin, and Corey Patterson, along with currnet National Dmitri Young, Jim Bowden is trasnforming the old Montreal Expos into the new Washington Reds.

 

Derwood you also forgot the likes of Corey Patterson, Joel Guzman and Josh Willingham are also in the OF mix

 

some of them are non-roster invitees at this point

 

Understood, but Bowden love of OFer surpasses Hendry love of the crappy backup MI.

[apete6]

I wonder if the Nats could be convinced to trade Johnson for a small price? He would make a nice back-up 1b/ bat off the bench.

 

$5.5 million seems steep for a backup who can only really play 1B

 

 

What if traded Luis Vizcaino (3.5) + prospect for Johnson (5.5). After adding in the 500K buyout for Vizcaino, the Cubs would only be taking on 1.5 million for Johnson. That's a deal I'd do if you could get Bowden to bite on it.

 

Johnson would at least give us a decent bat on the bench, and allow Lou to comfortably give Lee an off day every now and then. Also, I think Johnson (while he's never played there) could be just as passable in LF/RF as Hoffpauir.

 

I'm sure a rebuilding team would love to have a 34 year old declining reliever making nearly four million. Jim Bowden isn't a bad enough GM to make that move. That's Dave Littlefield level of ineptitude.

 

Even though Adam Dunn is easily worth 20 million I don't understand why the Nationals signed him. They aren't contending with or without Dunn for atleast another few seasons. I'd invest that 20 million into the draft and international free agent market. Washington's farm system could really use the upgrade that strategy would provide.

 

They would actually be freeing up money by trading Johnson for Vizcaino. Are they really rebuilding? It seems to me that if they could find some takers for their plethora of outfielders, they could have a halfway solid team full of veterans. Also, considering they were willing to give Teixiera a huge contract, they probably have the money to spend for O-Dog. Put him in the line up, and I think they have a very competitive team. Pretending that Adam Dunn would play 1b, they have:

 

OF- Kearns/Pena

OF- Milledge/Dukes

OF- Willingham

3b- Zimmerman

SS- Christian Guzman

2b- Orlando Hudson

1b- Adam Dunn

C- Jesus Flores

 

SP- Scott Olsen

SP- Daniel Cabrera

SP- John Lannan

SP- Collin Balester

SP- Bergmann, Hill, Detwieler, Shell

 

What they need at this point is pitching, and they still have plenty of outfield depth to trade.

 

Lets see here...quality young hitting and no pitching. Sounds like the Rangers during the Soriano days. Not exactly what a team should strive to be.

 

With my strategy the Nats don't spend 20 million for two years of a player that won't help them contend. Spending huge amounts on the international free agent market and draft would bring the National farm system tons of credibility, and in the long run allow Washington a much better chance to contend.

 

You guys have to remember, though. They are trying to build a fanbase in a transient market of "fake fans". Fake fans might know Adam Dunn or at least think its cool to go to a game to see Dunn hit a HR. They won't care if the team spent $20 million on the farm system if the team on the field is winning 60 games 2 years in a row.

 

Now, does singing Dunn solve this problem? Probably not, but add Hudson to the mix and maybe a decent pitcher, you might have a 75 win team. Sounds crappy, but the fans there need a reason to go see one hell of a nice new stadium. Add Stephen Strasburg and another top 10 pick (comp for messing up the Crow negotiations) that contributes in 2 years and you could be on to something.

[Tyrant]

Dukes and Milledge plz

 

yes, plz, let's get Elijah Dukes, Lastings Milledge and Milton Bradley in the same clubhouse.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Joel Guzman is a name I haven't heard in a long time. What happened to him these last two years?

[badnews]

Langerhans is a nothing guy even on the Nats. I think the time for Kearns and Pena may have largely come and gone. I remember when everyone here was an Austin Kearns groupie. Him and Brad Wilkerson. Yeah. I remember after his 2004 I was like "This dude is going to have a monster season this year." Uhhh....

[sneakypower]

Dukes and Milledge plz

 

yes, plz, let's get Elijah Dukes, Lastings Milledge and Milton Bradley in the same clubhouse.

Dukes & Milledge were in the same clubhouse last year and they didn't go on any gang banging rampages.

 

Dukes has HOF talent. its worth the gamble.

[erik316wttn]

Maybe we could trade one of our 3 dozen middle infielders for one of their 3 dozen outfielders.