Jake Peavy: Available.

[CUBZ99]

I thought I just saw Peavy at O'Hare.

 

ive got a buddy in real estate up there and he said peavy was house hunting yesterday

 

We are only a hairdresser away from verification.

[rchap24]

Looking at Baseball America's rankings for 2008, Atlanta's minor league system was ranked 8th while Chicago's was 20th. The players the Braves are offering were:

- Gorkys Hernandez - ranked 5th in their system, but unproven at the Major league level

- Yunel Escobar - not ranked due to ineligibility (but ranked 10th in their system in 2007 when the whole system ranked 16th), some success so far - should have a bright future

- Charlie Morton - not ranked due to ineligibility (not ranked in the past), poor major league numbers ---OR---

- Jo-Jo Reyes - not ranked due to ineligibility (but ranked 8th in their system in 2007), poor major league numbers

- Jeff Locke is also rumored to be a person of interest to the Padres, but he was ranked 8th by BA this year, while untouchable Tommy Hanson ranked 9th. Of course their 2008 season's have altered their rankings quite a bit.

 

The Cubs are reportedly willing to include:

- Felix Pie - not ranked due to ineligibility (but ranked 1st in their system in 2007 when the whole system ranked 18th), poor major league numbers but limited opportunities to play

- Sean Marshall - not ranked due to ineligibility the last two years, but with 2+ seasons of effectiveness and improvement, still cheap, lefty starter (two years in a row of an ERA under 4.00)

- Ryan Theriot - a starting SS for two seasons, cheap, proven

 

Looking at the two trade scenarios, I think the Padres are getting the best player from the Cubs in Sean Marshall. I think Escobar is the 2nd best player, Theriot is 3rd, Pie 4th, Hernandez is 5th.

 

I might be over-valuing the Cubs' players, but I would rather have the stats of a Marshall over the stats of an Escobar.

 

I take the Cubs offer.

 

I'm skeptical about the rumor, but it does make sense. This would allow the Padres to fill three needs with one trade. I know Theriot takes a beating here on NSBB because he's not the most sexy athlete, but his numbers last year were impressive for a SS.

 

Where did all the Theriot talks start from? I don't think I ever saw it

[WrigleyField 22]

I saw Peavy wearing a Cubs hat.

[wade]

I thought I just saw Peavy at O'Hare.

 

Was Roberts with him?

 

Danny Graves and Adam Dunn were with him.

[NOLA]

I thought I just saw Peavy at O'Hare.

 

ive got a buddy in real estate up there and he said peavy was house hunting yesterday

 

We are only a hairdresser away from verification.

 

My 1st post on this thread...THAT IS AWESOME!

[OleMissCub]

Am I missing something or is Khalil Greene not the Padres SS anymore?

[Jehrico]

Here's a good question that hasn't really been asked (or I've missed it...)...Does Greene really have negative value? Sure his value is down, but I don't think it's negative, not based on one bad season in Petco. I don't think we simply get Peavy for less just because we take him off of their hands. At most, the skids might be getting greased for a separate deal for Greene, or the offerings in the original deal expand to account for him.

 

He doesn't have negative value because of the position he plays. But, he's coming off a horrible season where he injured himself off the field, makes 6.5m for 2009 and then he's a free agent.

 

Teams just aren't going to offer up a whole lot for him, but there will be plenty of teams out there willing to throw a small offer out there to see if it sticks, simply because they need a SS.

On the flip side, we're interested in him because his 3 year splits are still decent for his position, especially considering he plays in PETCO, despite his one horrible season. There's enough history to suggest this year was an aberration, so it shouldn't totally kill all of his value. That's why many people on here will be thrilled if we get him. If we're drooling over him, then other clubs surely are willing to give more than a token offer, I would think.

 

Regardless, I want to buy low on this one...

[BigbadB]

Am I missing something or is Khalil Greene not the Padres SS anymore?

 

Greene is also on the market, and probably more likely to be moved than Peavy. The Padres want whatever they can get for Greene since he rejected an extension and is in the final year before free agency. The Padres want to be rid of what he is owed in '09.

[CUBZ99]

Looking at Baseball America's rankings for 2008, Atlanta's minor league system was ranked 8th while Chicago's was 20th. The players the Braves are offering were:

- Gorkys Hernandez - ranked 5th in their system, but unproven at the Major league level

- Yunel Escobar - not ranked due to ineligibility (but ranked 10th in their system in 2007 when the whole system ranked 16th), some success so far - should have a bright future

- Charlie Morton - not ranked due to ineligibility (not ranked in the past), poor major league numbers ---OR---

- Jo-Jo Reyes - not ranked due to ineligibility (but ranked 8th in their system in 2007), poor major league numbers

- Jeff Locke is also rumored to be a person of interest to the Padres, but he was ranked 8th by BA this year, while untouchable Tommy Hanson ranked 9th. Of course their 2008 season's have altered their rankings quite a bit.

 

The Cubs are reportedly willing to include:

- Felix Pie - not ranked due to ineligibility (but ranked 1st in their system in 2007 when the whole system ranked 18th), poor major league numbers but limited opportunities to play

- Sean Marshall - not ranked due to ineligibility the last two years, but with 2+ seasons of effectiveness and improvement, still cheap, lefty starter (two years in a row of an ERA under 4.00)

- Ryan Theriot - a starting SS for two seasons, cheap, proven

 

Looking at the two trade scenarios, I think the Padres are getting the best player from the Cubs in Sean Marshall. I think Escobar is the 2nd best player, Theriot is 3rd, Pie 4th, Hernandez is 5th.

 

I might be over-valuing the Cubs' players, but I would rather have the stats of a Marshall over the stats of an Escobar.

 

I take the Cubs offer.

 

I'm skeptical about the rumor, but it does make sense. This would allow the Padres to fill three needs with one trade. I know Theriot takes a beating here on NSBB because he's not the most sexy athlete, but his numbers last year were impressive for a SS.

 

Where did all the Theriot talks start from? I don't think I ever saw it

 

Some source at Desipio is claiming that the deal is almost final and Theriot is part of the deal.

[erik316wttn]

Looking at Baseball America's rankings for 2008, Atlanta's minor league system was ranked 8th while Chicago's was 20th. The players the Braves are offering were:

- Gorkys Hernandez - ranked 5th in their system, but unproven at the Major league level

- Yunel Escobar - not ranked due to ineligibility (but ranked 10th in their system in 2007 when the whole system ranked 16th), some success so far - should have a bright future

- Charlie Morton - not ranked due to ineligibility (not ranked in the past), poor major league numbers ---OR---

- Jo-Jo Reyes - not ranked due to ineligibility (but ranked 8th in their system in 2007), poor major league numbers

- Jeff Locke is also rumored to be a person of interest to the Padres, but he was ranked 8th by BA this year, while untouchable Tommy Hanson ranked 9th. Of course their 2008 season's have altered their rankings quite a bit.

 

The Cubs are reportedly willing to include:

- Felix Pie - not ranked due to ineligibility (but ranked 1st in their system in 2007 when the whole system ranked 18th), poor major league numbers but limited opportunities to play

- Sean Marshall - not ranked due to ineligibility the last two years, but with 2+ seasons of effectiveness and improvement, still cheap, lefty starter (two years in a row of an ERA under 4.00)

- Ryan Theriot - a starting SS for two seasons, cheap, proven

 

Looking at the two trade scenarios, I think the Padres are getting the best player from the Cubs in Sean Marshall. I think Escobar is the 2nd best player, Theriot is 3rd, Pie 4th, Hernandez is 5th.

 

I might be over-valuing the Cubs' players, but I would rather have the stats of a Marshall over the stats of an Escobar.

 

I take the Cubs offer.

 

I'm skeptical about the rumor, but it does make sense. This would allow the Padres to fill three needs with one trade. I know Theriot takes a beating here on NSBB because he's not the most sexy athlete, but his numbers last year were impressive for a SS.

 

Where did all the Theriot talks start from? I don't think I ever saw it

 

Some source at Desipio is claiming that the deal is almost final and Theriot is part of the deal.

 

I'm taking it with a big grain of salt, but if Riot goes to SD, does that make Cedeno our starting SS or do we heavily pursue Furcal? Or maybe we get Greene coming our way?

[Clem Fandango]

Did anyone happen to think Dolan's source happens to be the rumor that DonnieD posted here and he just added some names to it to make it sound sexier? They do hate us, do they not? I'm sure they checked over here to see what we had on the topic.

 

It is a little conspicuous to me that he posted that he has a source close to negotiations not too long after DonnieD posted that he has a source close to negotiations. He could just be cherry picking our rumors and then fluffing them up a bit

[UMFan83]

Did anyone happen to think Dolan's source happens to be the rumor that DonnieD posted here and he just added some names to it to make it sound sexier? They do hate us, do they not? I'm sure they checked over here to see what we had on the topic.

 

It is a little conspicuous to me that he posted that he has a source close to negotiations not too long after DonnieD posted that he has a source close to negotiations. He could just be cherry picking our rumors

 

Highly doubt it. Dolan cares about his integrity and wouldn't post a senseless rumor like that.

[rchap24]

Looking at Baseball America's rankings for 2008, Atlanta's minor league system was ranked 8th while Chicago's was 20th. The players the Braves are offering were:

- Gorkys Hernandez - ranked 5th in their system, but unproven at the Major league level

- Yunel Escobar - not ranked due to ineligibility (but ranked 10th in their system in 2007 when the whole system ranked 16th), some success so far - should have a bright future

- Charlie Morton - not ranked due to ineligibility (not ranked in the past), poor major league numbers ---OR---

- Jo-Jo Reyes - not ranked due to ineligibility (but ranked 8th in their system in 2007), poor major league numbers

- Jeff Locke is also rumored to be a person of interest to the Padres, but he was ranked 8th by BA this year, while untouchable Tommy Hanson ranked 9th. Of course their 2008 season's have altered their rankings quite a bit.

 

The Cubs are reportedly willing to include:

- Felix Pie - not ranked due to ineligibility (but ranked 1st in their system in 2007 when the whole system ranked 18th), poor major league numbers but limited opportunities to play

- Sean Marshall - not ranked due to ineligibility the last two years, but with 2+ seasons of effectiveness and improvement, still cheap, lefty starter (two years in a row of an ERA under 4.00)

- Ryan Theriot - a starting SS for two seasons, cheap, proven

 

Looking at the two trade scenarios, I think the Padres are getting the best player from the Cubs in Sean Marshall. I think Escobar is the 2nd best player, Theriot is 3rd, Pie 4th, Hernandez is 5th.

 

I might be over-valuing the Cubs' players, but I would rather have the stats of a Marshall over the stats of an Escobar.

 

I take the Cubs offer.

 

I'm skeptical about the rumor, but it does make sense. This would allow the Padres to fill three needs with one trade. I know Theriot takes a beating here on NSBB because he's not the most sexy athlete, but his numbers last year were impressive for a SS.

 

Where did all the Theriot talks start from? I don't think I ever saw it

 

Some source at Desipio is claiming that the deal is almost final and Theriot is part of the deal.

 

I'm taking it with a big grain of salt, but if Riot goes to SD, does that make Cedeno our starting SS or do we heavily pursue Furcal? Or maybe we get Greene coming our way?

 

I would be very happy with an off season of Furcal, Ibanez, and Peavy if all we give up are those 3

[BigbadB]

Did anyone happen to think Dolan's source happens to be the rumor that DonnieD posted here and he just added some names to it to make it sound sexier? They do hate us, do they not? I'm sure they checked over here to see what we had on the topic.

 

It is a little conspicuous to me that he posted that he has a source close to negotiations not too long after DonnieD posted that he has a source close to negotiations. He could just be cherry picking our rumors

 

No need to drum up conspiracy theories. After last year's Roberts fiasco, I don't think you'll dupe too many people with falsehoods. I doubt that was Andy's purpose anyway. Even he said "things are getting very interesting", which basically says he isn't completely hooked by this supposed sources facts.

 

You can read just about any baseball web site or blog and reach the conclusion that things are getting very interesting since the Cubs are one of only 2 teams that seem to have a strong chance of trading for Peavy.

 

So, do as DonnieD stated most of us would do anyway, and just take this information with a grain of salt.

[italianocubsfan7]

Ok so I've been reading most of the posts on here and like everyone else have came across someone named Desipio. I'm really confused, who is this guy, and if Theriot is to be traded, who in the hell is going to be our shortstop? Cause to all those people who think Furcal is an option here, you are all wrong. The Cubs can have only so much money on the payroll. Can someone help me out here?

[UMFan83]

Ok so I've been reading most of the posts on here and like everyone else have came across someone named Desipio. I'm really confused, who is this guy, and if Theriot is to be traded, who in the hell is going to be our shortstop? Cause to all those people who think Furcal is an option here, you are all wrong. The Cubs can have only so much money on the payroll. Can someone help me out here?

 

http://www.desipio.com

 

Cubs blog written by Andy Dolan. Used to be updated often, not as much now.

[rchap24]

Ok so I've been reading most of the posts on here and like everyone else have came across someone named Desipio. I'm really confused, who is this guy, and if Theriot is to be traded, who in the hell is going to be our shortstop? Cause to all those people who think Furcal is an option here, you are all wrong. The Cubs can have only so much money on the payroll. Can someone help me out here?

 

http://www.desipio.com

 

Cubs blog written by Andy Dolan. Used to be updated often, not as much now.

 

Who's Andy Dolan?

[UMFan83]

http://www.aboutus.org/Desipio.com

 

If we really wanted to be funny, we could call the contact information listed on the website pretending to be an ESPN employee looking for confirmation of the rumor so they can put it on espn.com

[BigbadB]

Ok so I've been reading most of the posts on here and like everyone else have came across someone named Desipio. I'm really confused, who is this guy, and if Theriot is to be traded, who in the hell is going to be our shortstop? Cause to all those people who think Furcal is an option here, you are all wrong. The Cubs can have only so much money on the payroll. Can someone help me out here?

 

http://www.desipio.com

 

Cubs blog written by Andy Dolan. Used to be updated often, not as much now.

 

Who's Andy Dolan?

 

A guy who writes Cubs blogs.

[rchap24]

Ok so I've been reading most of the posts on here and like everyone else have came across someone named Desipio. I'm really confused, who is this guy, and if Theriot is to be traded, who in the hell is going to be our shortstop? Cause to all those people who think Furcal is an option here, you are all wrong. The Cubs can have only so much money on the payroll. Can someone help me out here?

 

http://www.desipio.com

 

Cubs blog written by Andy Dolan. Used to be updated often, not as much now.

 

Who's Andy Dolan?

 

A guy who writes Cubs blogs.

 

Is he remotely credible?

[BigbadB]

I'm taking it with a big grain of salt, but if Riot goes to SD, does that make Cedeno our starting SS or do we heavily pursue Furcal? Or maybe we get Greene coming our way?

 

If Theriot was involved in the deal, you would have to imagine that Hendry has a plan in place to fill the hole at SS. DeRosa and Fontenot are both questionable candidates.

 

It's also possible that if the Peavy trade gets finalized before Friday, maybe the Cubs would take the Dempster offer off the table and offer it up to Furcal.

[jersey cubs fan]

On the flip side, we're interested in him because his 3 year splits are still decent for his position, especially considering he plays in PETCO, despite his one horrible season. There's enough history to suggest this year was an aberration, so it shouldn't totally kill all of his value. That's why many people on here will be thrilled if we get him. If we're drooling over him, then other clubs surely are willing to give more than a token offer, I would think.

 

Regardless, I want to buy low on this one...

 

 

Not sure we're drooling. It would be a nice experiment, with no guarantee payoff by any means.

[BigbadB]

Ok so I've been reading most of the posts on here and like everyone else have came across someone named Desipio. I'm really confused, who is this guy, and if Theriot is to be traded, who in the hell is going to be our shortstop? Cause to all those people who think Furcal is an option here, you are all wrong. The Cubs can have only so much money on the payroll. Can someone help me out here?

 

http://www.desipio.com

 

Cubs blog written by Andy Dolan. Used to be updated often, not as much now.

 

Who's Andy Dolan?

 

A guy who writes Cubs blogs.

 

Is he remotely credible?

 

Not sure why he would needs his credibility validated, but I can't really answer the question. I don't read his blog. I doubt he would just make that up, since he does have a decent sized following. I wouldn't expect Tim to make up a story anymore than I would Andy Dolan.

 

But, if you go back and actually read what he wrote, he isn't the one saying a deal is done, but rather a source he spoke to. All Andy is saying is that things are getting very interesting. Don't read anymore into it than that, and you won't suffer heartache.

[mdwilla]

If Levine's reports of a $150 million dollar payroll are correct Hendry has room to work with , even more if we don't bring back Wood and trade Marquis. Edited November 11, 2008 by mdwilla

[rchap24]

Ok so I've been reading most of the posts on here and like everyone else have came across someone named Desipio. I'm really confused, who is this guy, and if Theriot is to be traded, who in the hell is going to be our shortstop? Cause to all those people who think Furcal is an option here, you are all wrong. The Cubs can have only so much money on the payroll. Can someone help me out here?

 

http://www.desipio.com

 

Cubs blog written by Andy Dolan. Used to be updated often, not as much now.

 

Who's Andy Dolan?

 

A guy who writes Cubs blogs.

 

Is he remotely credible?

 

Not sure why he would needs his credibility validated, but I can't really answer the question. I don't read his blog. I doubt he would just make that up, since he does have a decent sized following. I wouldn't expect Tim to make up a story anymore than I would Andy Dolan.

 

But, if you go back and actually read what he wrote, he isn't the one saying a deal is done, but rather a source he spoke to. All Andy is saying is that things are getting very interesting. Don't read anymore into it than that, and you won't suffer heartache.

 

K...guess will see