Jake Peavy: Available.

[dew1679666265]

This must be the calm before the storm.

 

If/when we get Peavy, the board will crash. It'll make the massive user rush seen during the Nomar and Harden trades seem like peanuts.

 

I was on vacation for the Nomar trade watching espn when they announced, I don't think anything can top that being the last minute deal it was.

 

I was driving back from work that day and flipped over to the local sports station listening for updates. I was actually just hoping we did something - not even expecting a Nomar deal.

 

Then I heard Nomar was traded and then they started talking about the Cubs - it was 15 minutes or so before they actually confirmed that we acquired him.

 

I nearly drove off the road with excitement.

[Wrigley Rat]

If Hendry lands Peavy and Dempster leaves some reports had us targeting another starter like Lowe to join the rotation . If the top tier guys Hendry targets become out of his price range. Anyone interested in Randy Johnson on a one year deal incentive based? He a great second half year and did a radio interview last year he raved about Piniella. Johnson wants to play for a contender and get 300 wins something the Cubs can offer him.

I'd be game, but I think he would cost more for 2009 than Dempster would on a per-year basis. I think Dempster is the better pitcher as this point in their careers, plus Dempster is a big-time clubhouse presence. If Dempster turns down our best offer, then Johnson could be part of a Plan B, C, or D.

[USSoccer]

No one should want any part of paying Randy Johnson to be old, hurt and bad.

[mdwilla]

If Hendry lands Peavy and Dempster leaves some reports had us targeting another starter like Lowe to join the rotation . If the top tier guys Hendry targets become out of his price range. Anyone interested in Randy Johnson on a one year deal incentive based? He a great second half year and did a radio interview last year he raved about Piniella. Johnson wants to play for a contender and get 300 wins something the Cubs can offer him.

I'd be game, but I think he would cost more for 2009 than Dempster would on a per-year basis. I think Dempster is the better pitcher as this point in their careers, plus Dempster is a big-time clubhouse presence. If Dempster turns down our best offer, then Johnson could be part of a Plan B, C, or D.

I agree Dempster leadership will be missed if he goes elsewhere . I'm not sure about the costing more per year basis Johnson is reported to seeking some in the neighborhood of 8-10 millon on a one year deal with the Diamondbacks offering 4-5 million on a one year deal.

[mdwilla]

No one should want any part of paying Randy Johnson to be old, hurt and bad.

 

Expect he was only one of those three in last years second half and that was old.

[AlwaysaCub]

No one should want any part of paying Randy Johnson to be old, hurt and bad.

 

Expect he was only one of those three in last years second half and that was old.

 

He didn't even look old when he threw 7 shutout against us. But Randy Johnson could be 60 and require a cane and still shut us out.

[USSoccer]

No one should want any part of paying Randy Johnson to be old, hurt and bad.

 

Expect he was only one of those three in last years second half and that was old.

 

He didn't even look old when he threw 7 shutout against us. But Randy Johnson could be 60 and require a cane and still shut us out.

 

Don't be fooled by how he looks against us, and don't be deluded into thinking he's going to take some incentive-laden deal. Randy Johnson likes his dolla billz. He's going to want a decent sized deal.

 

And he's been hurt, too.

[Mephistopheles]

i have pretty much everyone blocked in the last five pages....whats with the mentioning of randy johnson?

 

please tell me this is just baseless speculation by some dumbass beat writer

[USSoccer]

i have pretty much everyone blocked in the last five pages....whats with the mentioning of randy johnson?

 

please tell me this is just baseless speculation by some dumbass beat writer

 

 

Nope, just the baseless musings of a poster.

[Mephistopheles]

as long as that poster isnt from orioles hangout, i guess we're okay

[TruffleShuffle]

derek lowe would be perfect for wrigley.

[RammyFanny]

http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081111&content_id=3675469&vkey=news_atl&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl

[PrimeTime]

Hes freakin crazy if he thinks Atlanta has a better chance to compete than the Cubs...Its simple, he should figure with his talent that he can take us to the enxt level and hopefully win a damn playoff game..The only reason I could see him wanting to go to Atlanta is that he was raised in Alabama and still lives there which is close to Atlanta..

[erik316wttn]

Hes freakin crazy if he thinks Atlanta has a better chance to compete than the Cubs...Its simple, he should figure with his talent that he can take us to the enxt level and hopefully win a damn playoff game..The only reason I could see him wanting to go to Atlanta is that he was raised in Alabama and still lives there which is close to Atlanta..

 

Never underestimate the power of home. Despite everything coming out of the Peavy camp, the Braves have a much better shot than we think they do because of their proximity to his home. Some people can pack up and leave and never look back, others like to stay close to one place for as long as they can. Maybe Peavy is just one of those guys.

[Brian]

he'd be on pretty much the same team except instead of being in San Diego he'd be in unbearably hot Atlanta (and close to home).

[Cubswin11]

http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081111&content_id=3675469&vkey=news_atl&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl

If the Braves offer is so much greater than the Cubs why isn't it a done deal? I think the Cubs can compete with any offer from the Braves unless they offer up some of their top prospects (Hanson). If the general feeling is that the Braves can overwhelm a Cubs offer, then you have to think the Padres/Cubs/Third Team? are trying to get something worked out. Maybe with news now that Grienke may be out in Kansas City there could be a deal getting him to San Diego?

Edited November 12, 2008 by Cubswin11

[RedFlash]

Hes freakin crazy if he thinks Atlanta has a better chance to compete than the Cubs...Its simple, he should figure with his talent that he can take us to the enxt level and hopefully win a damn playoff game..The only reason I could see him wanting to go to Atlanta is that he was raised in Alabama and still lives there which is close to Atlanta..

 

Never underestimate the power of home. Despite everything coming out of the Peavy camp, the Braves have a much better shot than we think they do because of their proximity to his home. Some people can pack up and leave and never look back, others like to stay close to one place for as long as they can. Maybe Peavy is just one of those guys.

 

What's hurt the Braves chances is that I believe I read somewhere/heard somewhere that Peavy doesn't want to up and move his family from San Diego. And that could be an overwhelming factor considering the Cubs have spring training in Arizona, and the Braves in Florida. I usually do buy into the 'power of playing at home', but I just don't think that is a strong factor in this case.

[RedFlash]

http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081111&content_id=3675469&vkey=news_atl&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl

If the Braves offer is so much greater than the Cubs why isn't a done deal? I think the Cubs can compete with any offer from the Braves unless they offer up some of their top prospects (Hanson). If the general feeling is that the Braves can overwhelm a Cubs offer, the you have to think the Padres/Cubs/Third Team? are trying to get something worked out. Maybe with news now that Grienke may be out in Kansas City there could be a deal getting him to San Diego?

 

I agree. So either the Braves offer isn't as good as what has been reported (meaning no Escobar or Hanson), or Peavy is specifically asking Towers to trade him to the Cubs and Towers is using the Braves to up the offer from the Cubs.

[nilodnayr]

http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081111&content_id=3675469&vkey=news_atl&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl

If the Braves offer is so much greater than the Cubs why isn't a done deal? I think the Cubs can compete with any offer from the Braves unless they offer up some of their top prospects (Hanson). If the general feeling is that the Braves can overwhelm a Cubs offer, the you have to think the Padres/Cubs/Third Team? are trying to get something worked out. Maybe with news now that Grienke may be out in Kansas City there could be a deal getting him to San Diego?

 

I agree. So either the Braves offer isn't as good as what has been reported (meaning no Escobar or Hanson), or Peavy is specifically asking Towers to trade him to the Cubs and Towers is using the Braves to up the offer from the Cubs.

 

Or he wants to get another player from the braves

[cubsfan26]

http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081111&content_id=3675469&vkey=news_atl&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl

 

 

I don't understand why some think a package of Escobar, Hernandez and Reyes or Morton is so much better then anything the Cubs can offer. Escobar is a pretty nice piece, and has potential to get better then he is. But whats so great about Gorkys Hernandez? he hit 264 in A-ball and has had a 735 OPS the last two seasons. When did Hernandez become more valueable then Felix Pie? It's not like Pie is a old prospect or anything he's only around two years older then Hernandez. But Reyes and Morton are nothing special either and I would rather have Marshall then both.

 

 

Morton might have good stuff, but he's sucked in the minors and majors. Reyes has pitched well in the minors in his career, but has sucked in the majors. Why do two guys with talent who have struggled in the majors still have good value, but Felix Pie doesnt? So say we offered Vitters, Theriot(or Cedeno), Pie and Marshall, that doesn't beat the Braves offer of Escobar, Morton or Reyes and Hernandez? If the Padres didn't think the Cubs offer was around equal to the Braves, I don't think Towers would continue to waste Hendrys time. I just think idiots in the media think Pie is worthless because he's struggled in the majors so far. Samething goes with Marshall I bet some are calling him a swing man, instead of a big league starter, because thats what he was last year. So I bet the Padres are alot higher on the Cubs prospects then some are lead to believe.

[RedFlash]

http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081111&content_id=3675469&vkey=news_atl&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl

If the Braves offer is so much greater than the Cubs why isn't a done deal? I think the Cubs can compete with any offer from the Braves unless they offer up some of their top prospects (Hanson). If the general feeling is that the Braves can overwhelm a Cubs offer, the you have to think the Padres/Cubs/Third Team? are trying to get something worked out. Maybe with news now that Grienke may be out in Kansas City there could be a deal getting him to San Diego?

 

I agree. So either the Braves offer isn't as good as what has been reported (meaning no Escobar or Hanson), or Peavy is specifically asking Towers to trade him to the Cubs and Towers is using the Braves to up the offer from the Cubs.

 

Or he wants to get another player from the braves

 

If it not Hanson/Schafer/Heyward then why haven't the Braves included the player (I would assume Locke is a choice)? So while that may be a scenerio, ryan, I doubt it is what keeping the Braves from getting Peavy.

[nilodnayr]

http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081111&content_id=3675469&vkey=news_atl&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl

If the Braves offer is so much greater than the Cubs why isn't a done deal? I think the Cubs can compete with any offer from the Braves unless they offer up some of their top prospects (Hanson). If the general feeling is that the Braves can overwhelm a Cubs offer, the you have to think the Padres/Cubs/Third Team? are trying to get something worked out. Maybe with news now that Grienke may be out in Kansas City there could be a deal getting him to San Diego?

 

I agree. So either the Braves offer isn't as good as what has been reported (meaning no Escobar or Hanson), or Peavy is specifically asking Towers to trade him to the Cubs and Towers is using the Braves to up the offer from the Cubs.

 

Or he wants to get another player from the braves

 

If it not Hanson/Schafer/Heyward then why haven't the Braves included the player (I would assume Locke is a choice)? So while that may be a scenerio, ryan, I doubt it is what keeping the Braves from getting Peavy.

 

Maybe because the braves dont think they have to?

[RedFlash]

http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081111&content_id=3675469&vkey=news_atl&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl

If the Braves offer is so much greater than the Cubs why isn't a done deal? I think the Cubs can compete with any offer from the Braves unless they offer up some of their top prospects (Hanson). If the general feeling is that the Braves can overwhelm a Cubs offer, the you have to think the Padres/Cubs/Third Team? are trying to get something worked out. Maybe with news now that Grienke may be out in Kansas City there could be a deal getting him to San Diego?

 

I agree. So either the Braves offer isn't as good as what has been reported (meaning no Escobar or Hanson), or Peavy is specifically asking Towers to trade him to the Cubs and Towers is using the Braves to up the offer from the Cubs.

 

Or he wants to get another player from the braves

 

If it not Hanson/Schafer/Heyward then why haven't the Braves included the player (I would assume Locke is a choice)? So while that may be a scenerio, ryan, I doubt it is what keeping the Braves from getting Peavy.

 

Maybe because the braves dont think they have to?

 

Then I suggest the Braves remove themselves from the table. Cause if they are not willing to pay up for a pitcher like Peavy then they shouldn't get him. Not to mention if the Braves think that then they won't get Peavy.

[DonnieD]

Alright, I only got to talk with my source briefly today, nothing new as far as news goes. But I did get another confirmation that Peavy will NOT be going to the Braves.

 

End of "source news", my thoughts are that Towers is using the Braves as leverage to get the Cubs to include that one more player he wants to complete the deal. Maybe someone is leaking false information to the media that a deal with the Braves is iminent to put pressure on Hendry. So far it seems Hendry is standing pat and not caving to the pressure. Here's hoping Hendry has recognized the bluff and stays firm, because the Cubs are the only realistic destination for Peavy.

[mdwilla]

Alright, I only got to talk with my source briefly today, nothing new as far as news goes. But I did get another confirmation that Peavy will NOT be going to the Braves.

 

End of "source news", my thoughts are that Towers is using the Braves as leverage to get the Cubs to include that one more player he wants to complete the deal. Maybe someone is leaking false information to the media that a deal with the Braves is iminent to put pressure on Hendry. So far it seems Hendry is standing pat and not caving to the pressure. Here's hoping Hendry has recognized the bluff and stays firm, because the Cubs are the only realistic destination for Peavy.

DonnieD if Peavy gets dealt to the Braves or heck if ends with the Cubs are you going to post your photos to back your source claims?