Jake Peavy: Available.

[nilodnayr]

Well here is a tidbit towards the SS angle from XM.

 

De Rosa was on last week and said of all the positions he liked he would prefer to be on the left side of the infield. Then he went on to talk about how he came up as a SS and had to learn other things other then SS becuase of Renteria.

 

I would imagine that DeRosa would get a shot at SS before Fontenot. I actually like the idea of a DeRosa/Fontenot middle infield. DeRo's arm is certainly strong enough and his rnage at 2nd was that bad up the middle so he can move to his left theorically just fine.

 

Just a backup thought to Theriot going.

 

If that was the case then I would have guessed he would have at least gotten a shot at SS over the last couple years. Hell, even Fontenot got a shot (albeit extremely extremely abbreviated). I'd love for him to move to SS, don't get me wrong, but I'm just sayin'

[CubinNY]

Andy Dolan from Desipio:

 

The Jake Peavy to the Cubs rumors will not die, and today they took a turn for the interesting.

 

A source within the Padres organization claims that it’s “basically a done deal” (whatever basically means) that Peavy is headed to Chicago, and that the Cubs will send back Felix Pie, Sean Marshall and Ryan Theriot.

 

I have no idea the source.

 

Andy 10 The source of this rumor reports to Kevin Towers directly. Nope, not Masur or Vasgersian.

 

Andy 17 I like the extra o. I’m keeping it.

 

Howry, I don’t know if this is going to happen. I’m just passing it along. The source has worked for the Padres for years and said that when the meeting he was in last night ended everybody left the meeting with the idea that it was going to be Felix, Theriot and Marshall for Peavy.

 

Where it goes from there we’ll just have to see.

 

http://www.desipio.com/?p=1782

He's this year's BigBird, Belkfast, or whatever.

[YearofDaCubs]

Maybe this guy's sources aren't good but the deal does make sense.

 

Greene and Peavy for Pie, Marshall, and Theriot.

 

Greene's production was terrible last year and he is due to make 6.5 mil. Padres are looking to offload salary so I can see a deal like this take place.

[Wrigley Rat]

I personally think the Braves are being used as the decoy here by Towers. I don't think Peavy wants to go to a Braves team that is so far down in the standings with low expectations for the future, especially after trading away their top SS prospect (as has been reported). I think Peavy has told Towers to get him to the Cubs one way or another and the Cubs weren't negotiating against themselves, so they only offered what they felt they needed to and Towers realized he needed some more leverage. Hence, the reason why we know the Braves' offer, but are still a bit sticky on the Cubs' offer.

 

I think Peavy will become a Cub in a few days. I think 4-5 players will be traded to the Padres from the list of names mentioned over the past couple weeks. I imagine a SS, a top low-level prospect, and 2-3 pitchers definitely including Sean Marshall. Just my 2 cents.

[CubinNY]

Maybe this guy's sources aren't good but the deal does make sense.

 

Greene and Peavy for Pie, Marshall, and Theriot.

 

Greene's production was terrible last year and he is due to make 6.5 mil. Padres are looking to offload salary so I can see a deal like this take place.

Except it doesn't mention anything about Greene.

 

I'd piss my pants and dance a jig if it happens though.

[BigbadB]

Andy Dolan from Desipio:

 

The Jake Peavy to the Cubs rumors will not die, and today they took a turn for the interesting.

 

A source within the Padres organization claims that it’s “basically a done deal” (whatever basically means) that Peavy is headed to Chicago, and that the Cubs will send back Felix Pie, Sean Marshall and Ryan Theriot.

 

I have no idea the source.

 

This is the sort of package I imagined would probably get the job done. Although, I would have expected at least one prospect would be included, like Castillo, Hart, Veal or Ceda.

 

The main three players mentioned are guys the Padres can stick into their line up right now, which is probably a strong selling point for the Padres. They probably can't realistically expect to get much in return for Greene or Giles, but with what just happened to the negotiations between Hoffman and San Diego, it's possible that a guy like Wuertz or Hart might sweeten the deal.

 

The Padres have given up on trying to get power guys. They are looking to build the future team on speed. Theriot and Pie fit that model. Padres fans that I have spoken to would have given up Greene straight up for Theriot if that tells you anything. Theriot basically has trade value right now, so the ideal time to sell him is now.

[Cubswin11]

Maybe this guy's sources aren't good but the deal does make sense.

 

Greene and Peavy for Pie, Marshall, and Theriot.

 

Greene's production was terrible last year and he is due to make 6.5 mil. Padres are looking to offload salary so I can see a deal like this take place.

That's really only the way it would make sense is us taking on Greene, it would be pretty risky for Hendry to assume Furcal would sign with us and to have Cedeno as our only viable SS. If the minor leaguers being figured out are Ceda, Castillo, Atkins I could see it, but just Marshall, Pie and Theriot really would be a fleecing.

[cubsfan26]

I doubt it would be Greene and Peavy, Kevin Towers even said last week that he probably wouldn't package them together. This Andy guy is covering himself by saying he doesn't know if it will happen or not and is just passing along what he heard. That tells me it's probably BS, and just trying to get rumor hungry Cubs fans to visit his blog.

[YearofDaCubs]

Maybe this guy's sources aren't good but the deal does make sense.

 

Greene and Peavy for Pie, Marshall, and Theriot.

 

Greene's production was terrible last year and he is due to make 6.5 mil. Padres are looking to offload salary so I can see a deal like this take place.

Except it doesn't mention anything about Greene.

 

I'd piss my pants and dance a jig if it happens though.

I know it doesn't but I can see something like that happening.

[Butterscup1679666578]

True or not, I just peed a little at the thought of it.

[nilodnayr]

I personally think the Braves are being used as the decoy here by Towers. I don't think Peavy wants to go to a Braves team that is so far down in the standings with low expectations for the future, especially after trading away their top SS prospect (as has been reported). I think Peavy has told Towers to get him to the Cubs one way or another and the Cubs weren't negotiating against themselves, so they only offered what they felt they needed to and Towers realized he needed some more leverage. Hence, the reason why we know the Braves' offer, but are still a bit sticky on the Cubs' offer.

 

I think Peavy will become a Cub in a few days. I think 4-5 players will be traded to the Padres from the list of names mentioned over the past couple weeks. I imagine a SS, a top low-level prospect, and 2-3 pitchers definitely including Sean Marshall. Just my 2 cents.

 

I think exactly the opposite. I think we are being used as a decoy and the Pads are just trying to get that extra whatever they want from the Braves.

[David]

The only part of that that doesn't make sense to me is that Desipio already has a pretty established readership and has even been mentioned among the top Cubs blogs and has gotten shoutouts from Len on TV.

 

I don't get why they'd try something like that at this stage in the game, so to speak.

[WrigleyField 22]

I just don't know why this hasn't been done yet.

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/snetsrak43/peavycubs.jpg

[Tyrant]

Posting a fake rumor would also be a pretty good way to virally get traffic to a blog.

 

Just saying.

 

I hope it's true, though.

 

If I recall correctly, Desipio has been mentioned by Kasper on WGN and also on ESPN. I don't know that he's hurting for traffic. That said, I'll believe this when I hear it..

 

edit: you just posted the same thing

[KurtEvans]

Posting a fake rumor would also be a pretty good way to virally get traffic to a blog.

 

Just saying.

 

I hope it's true, though.

 

Dolan used to write a 7-10 paragraph blog entry every day. Now he'll churn out 3 paragraphs a week. He is a fading star in the Cubs blog world, so I guess this would be a good way to get back into the mix.

 

Based on everything you seem to know about him, he sure does appear to have a fan in you, UMFan.

 

For his next stunt, Dolan will be arranging a Voyeur Bus in Chicago. He'll have nude models and porn stars riding around town in a glass bus. He figures it'll be a good way to "get back in the mix," as you put it.

[Wrigley Rat]

I personally think the Braves are being used as the decoy here by Towers. I don't think Peavy wants to go to a Braves team that is so far down in the standings with low expectations for the future, especially after trading away their top SS prospect (as has been reported). I think Peavy has told Towers to get him to the Cubs one way or another and the Cubs weren't negotiating against themselves, so they only offered what they felt they needed to and Towers realized he needed some more leverage. Hence, the reason why we know the Braves' offer, but are still a bit sticky on the Cubs' offer.

 

I think Peavy will become a Cub in a few days. I think 4-5 players will be traded to the Padres from the list of names mentioned over the past couple weeks. I imagine a SS, a top low-level prospect, and 2-3 pitchers definitely including Sean Marshall. Just my 2 cents.

 

I think exactly the opposite. I think we are being used as a decoy and the Pads are just trying to get that extra whatever they want from the Braves.

Maybe, but Peavy mentioned he wouldn't want to go to Atlanta if Yunel Escobar was going the other way. I know that he has since stepped back from that statement, but I think it was to give back the negotiating edge to Towers that Peavy took away due to his statement. If Escobar were to be taken out of the trade rumors, I might feel that Atlanta had more of an edge.

[David]

God, can we not turn this into one of these pissing matches.

 

I actually like Desipio, and obviously, I hope the story is true.

[SouthSideRyan]

The only part of that that doesn't make sense to me is that Desipio already has a pretty established readership and has even been mentioned among the top Cubs blogs and has gotten shoutouts from Len on TV.

 

I don't get why they'd try something like that at this stage in the game, so to speak.

 

Yeah, I really doubt he's outright making this up. I'm guessing he's talking to a friend who's a low-level nobody with the Padres who talked to another low-level nobody who heard something from a mid-level nobody. Each of these nobodies liking to feel important and a part of a baseball organization liberally spreads any hint they've picked up from somebody who actually means something in the organization. Pretty soon, a vague idea of what the Padres want in return from the Cubs becomes a concrete idea of what the Cubs will receive from the Padres.

[BigbadB]

I personally think the Braves are being used as the decoy here by Towers. I don't think Peavy wants to go to a Braves team that is so far down in the standings with low expectations for the future, especially after trading away their top SS prospect (as has been reported). I think Peavy has told Towers to get him to the Cubs one way or another and the Cubs weren't negotiating against themselves, so they only offered what they felt they needed to and Towers realized he needed some more leverage. Hence, the reason why we know the Braves' offer, but are still a bit sticky on the Cubs' offer.

 

I think Peavy will become a Cub in a few days. I think 4-5 players will be traded to the Padres from the list of names mentioned over the past couple weeks. I imagine a SS, a top low-level prospect, and 2-3 pitchers definitely including Sean Marshall. Just my 2 cents.

 

I think exactly the opposite. I think we are being used as a decoy and the Pads are just trying to get that extra whatever they want from the Braves.

 

I have to agree with Ryan. If you are limited on who you can trade a stud SP to, you certainly want to work a deal with the team with the best players available, and it's really not even close between the Braves and the Cubs.

 

In a perfect world, Towers would be trading Peavy to the Braves for Escobar and Hanson, but the Braves aren't going to do that, and it's possible Peavy wouldn't even accept the trade there if they did.

 

Towers is using the Cubs as leverage to try to get the Braves to cave. If the Braves don't cave, then the Padres probably view the Cubs offer as a better short term fix than what the Braves are offering.

[woodprior04]

Not saying I believe this rumor but Theriot makes a lot of sense for the Padres. He's the type of hitter who won't really be hurt by Petco due to his lack of power and his .362 career OBP is a huge improvement on Greene's .304. He's still relatively young and cheap too.

[jersey cubs fan]

The only part of that that doesn't make sense to me is that Desipio already has a pretty established readership and has even been mentioned among the top Cubs blogs and has gotten shoutouts from Len on TV.

 

I don't get why they'd try something like that at this stage in the game, so to speak.

 

Their size and popularity has never stopped ESPN from reporting nonsense as absolute fact. I don't think there is such a thing as "too big" a blog to post the occasional garbage story.

[Wrigley Rat]

I personally think the Braves are being used as the decoy here by Towers. I don't think Peavy wants to go to a Braves team that is so far down in the standings with low expectations for the future, especially after trading away their top SS prospect (as has been reported). I think Peavy has told Towers to get him to the Cubs one way or another and the Cubs weren't negotiating against themselves, so they only offered what they felt they needed to and Towers realized he needed some more leverage. Hence, the reason why we know the Braves' offer, but are still a bit sticky on the Cubs' offer.

 

I think Peavy will become a Cub in a few days. I think 4-5 players will be traded to the Padres from the list of names mentioned over the past couple weeks. I imagine a SS, a top low-level prospect, and 2-3 pitchers definitely including Sean Marshall. Just my 2 cents.

 

I think exactly the opposite. I think we are being used as a decoy and the Pads are just trying to get that extra whatever they want from the Braves.

 

I have to agree with Ryan. If you are limited on who you can trade a stud SP to, you certainly want to work a deal with the team with the best players available, and it's really not even close between the Braves and the Cubs.

 

In a perfect world, Towers would be trading Peavy to the Braves for Escobar and Hanson, but the Braves aren't going to do that, and it's possible Peavy wouldn't even accept the trade there if they did.

 

Towers is using the Cubs as leverage to try to get the Braves to cave. If the Braves don't cave, then the Padres probably view the Cubs offer as a better short term fix than what the Braves are offering.

 

I can agree with that once you include Hanson in the conversation. I had been working under the assumption that there is no way Hanson would be included, so now Towers is trying to get the best package available from the Cubs.

Edited November 11, 2008 by Wrigley Rat

[CubinNY]

The only part of that that doesn't make sense to me is that Desipio already has a pretty established readership and has even been mentioned among the top Cubs blogs and has gotten shoutouts from Len on TV.

 

I don't get why they'd try something like that at this stage in the game, so to speak.

 

Yeah, I really doubt he's outright making this up. I'm guessing he's talking to a friend who's a low-level nobody with the Padres who talked to another low-level nobody who heard something from a mid-level nobody. Each of these nobodies liking to feel important and a part of a baseball organization liberally spreads any hint they've picked up from somebody who actually means something in the organization. Pretty soon, a vague idea of what the Padres want in return from the Cubs becomes a concrete idea of what the Cubs will receive from the Padres.

Nailed it.

 

(hopefully the peons hit the jackpot)

[David]

Or maybe Peavy doesn't really want to go to the Braves all that much... *shrug*

[jersey cubs fan]

I do have to say that I don't think it makes a lot of sense that Hendry would trade Theriot in a Peavy deal without getting Greene back. They don't trust Cedeno, and they don't have the financial muscle to go out and spend like freaks. SD is desperate to be rid of contracts and a Peavy/Greene addition isn't going to kill the Cubs plans (although I do think it ends talk of Dempster returning).