7/25 - Fish (Johnson) @ Cubs (Demps), 1:20 CT, WGN

[Fro]

Just when you thought it was save to take a swim in Lake Michigan...

 

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Edited July 25, 2008 by Fro

[hawkeyecub]

Why the hell did you walk over so he could tag you Kosuke?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Fukudome should be fined for not at least trying to run to first. He's likely out, but he should at least try.

[illiniguy]

Fukudome is maybe the most overrated player in the game right now.

[wekse]

fukudome can't hit LH'd pitching.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

People were going to say it was a decent outing no matter what happened. They want to like the new Cubs young pitcher, they want to be excited by his debut, so they convince themselves it was good, when it wasn't.

 

His fastball sure is pretty, though.

 

They also rightly set the bar very low for a guy's Major League debut, especially one with Samardzija's background.

[UMFan83]

We have a really expensive platoon player in right field.

 

.278 vs. righties

.277 vs. lefties coming into today.

 

Don't have full rate stats handy but I'm sure its not a huge difference.

[UMFan83]

People were going to say it was a decent outing no matter what happened. They want to like the new Cubs young pitcher, they want to be excited by his debut, so they convince themselves it was good, when it wasn't.

 

His fastball sure is pretty, though.

 

They also rightly set the bar very low for a guy's Major League debut, especially one with Samardzija's background.

 

Carlos Zambrano gives up some runs in some innings this year. Does that mean he's pitching horribly too?

[Athletics36]

The apology brigade is out in force, I see.

 

Samardzija got a very borderline call on a 3-2 pitch for his first out, then gave up a solid gb single, then couldn't execute a pitchout, then gave up a deep line drive that was fortunately in the deepest part of the park, then gave up a solid double, then induced a popup.

 

ERA of 9, WHIP of 2.00, hitters hit 400/400/600 off of him.

 

There's no way you can slice this into a good outing. It was a bad outing.

 

Just wanted to add that he was lucky enough to get out of that inning only giving up the one run.... Watching the game none of his secondary pitches were strikes and throwing a flat FB that got hit.. Look I'm not saying that he can't pitch in the Majors but this move made no sense. As with all Cubs relievers throwing nothing but SL/FB and if can't locate offspeed pitches gonna get hit hard.

[TysonCBulls423]

Knee jerk reactions are fun to laugh at after wins. Let me have another laugh after this one, Cobs.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I'm pretty sure a lot of people here don't like him because of the hype, the contract and the university he went to.

 

Didn't watch the inning but he gave up a run in an inning and that isn't good.

 

It's not surprising that people don't expect the a great outing when a player makes his debut and have lowered expectations. That you must rate the outing on solely absolutes of good and bad when considering it's a player making his big league debut is strange.

 

I find the need for a sliding scale strange. A bad outing is a bad outing is a bad outing, unless we can convince MLB to award us a win in this game by discounting that run because it was Samardzija's debut.

 

It's not an indictment on his potential or his abilities, it's still just one inning. But why is it so hard for this board to call it a bad inning?

[wekse]

cubs lose this one, 4-2.

[bcl412]

People were going to say it was a decent outing no matter what happened. They want to like the new Cubs young pitcher, they want to be excited by his debut, so they convince themselves it was good, when it wasn't.

 

His fastball sure is pretty, though.

 

They also rightly set the bar very low for a guy's Major League debut, especially one with Samardzija's background.

 

Carlos Zambrano gives up some runs in some innings this year. Does that mean he's pitching horribly too?

 

His outings not over

[MasterBlaster]

I could plainly hear some loudmouth fan yelling at Kosuke "YOU SUCK!", while listening to the game on mlb audio.

[big_shooter17]

People were going to say it was a decent outing no matter what happened. They want to like the new Cubs young pitcher, they want to be excited by his debut, so they convince themselves it was good, when it wasn't.

 

His fastball sure is pretty, though.

 

They also rightly set the bar very low for a guy's Major League debut, especially one with Samardzija's background.

 

Carlos Zambrano gives up some runs in some innings this year. Does that mean he's pitching horribly too?

 

From what I understand, it is only horrible if his stuff looks good and you have no vision of potential.`

[ChiCubsfan0502]

I have really started to sour on Fukudome. The fact he started the All-Star game is a sham.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

People were going to say it was a decent outing no matter what happened. They want to like the new Cubs young pitcher, they want to be excited by his debut, so they convince themselves it was good, when it wasn't.

 

His fastball sure is pretty, though.

 

They also rightly set the bar very low for a guy's Major League debut, especially one with Samardzija's background.

 

Carlos Zambrano gives up some runs in some innings this year. Does that mean he's pitching horribly too?

 

From what I understand, it is only horrible if his stuff looks good and you have no vision of potential.`

 

The innings in which he gave up runs were bad innings.

[Old Style]

How does Uggla not have 3 errors yet? Have we not hit any grounders to second?

[bcl412]

I have really started to sour on Fukudome. The fact he started the All-Star game is a sham.

 

To me he is nice to have but by no means a superstar

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Now THAT was a good inning.

[Fro]

There's the hook!

[PrimeTime]

Great inning

[CubsBears29]

1-2-3 inning, but only 1 strike out.

 

What a loser. Send Shark back down, immediately!

[bcl412]

People were going to say it was a decent outing no matter what happened. They want to like the new Cubs young pitcher, they want to be excited by his debut, so they convince themselves it was good, when it wasn't.

 

His fastball sure is pretty, though.

 

They also rightly set the bar very low for a guy's Major League debut, especially one with Samardzija's background.

 

Carlos Zambrano gives up some runs in some innings this year. Does that mean he's pitching horribly too?

 

From what I understand, it is only horrible if his stuff looks good and you have no vision of potential.`

 

The innings in which he gave up runs were bad innings.

 

This was a good inning. We can all agree on that.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Shark looked a little better that inning.